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Grumblevolcano

The most interesting part of the SAD trailer was Halo 5 split screen, that doesn't exist right now so suggests there's a future update.

EDIT: Oh, it's already been confirmed that the split screen was edited into the trailer.

https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/6e35355aecdf4fd0acd...

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NEStalgia

@redd214 It feels like it's priced for sale pricing. I.E. "The E3 mega-sale, save up to 30% on a new XBox One (SAD Edition) with purchase of 2 games!" type things. Set MSRP unreasonably so it looks like a great value when it's frequently on sale.

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@Grumblevolcano Well I've felt that was their strategy all along based on prior Phil comments, but I got eaten up alive in this thread for sticking with that.

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redd214

@NEStalgia I understand "price conditioning" very well but this seems a bit bananas to me. I mean the SRP for the S and SAD are only apart $50, seems weird.

Was fully expecting to go balls to the wall with the pricing. Imagine $150 take a loss on HW but make up for it in subs, get people in and hooked on gamepass and prime them for xbox 2.

Ah well, at least their trying something new. We all know it'll be one sale soon enough but in my eyes this offers little value at their initial price, and that's coming from someone who is all digital and would be the target market potentially.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia From now on, we'll just call you The Oracle of Delphi...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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@redd214 I wonder if part of it is that not only is it positioned to go on sale, but that they'll put the S on sale less, or for less discounts than before, and move all the discounting the to the new budget entry. But yeah, it would have been insane to see the numbers change if they made it a loss leader and just started stealing Sony market share.

@ThanosReXXX Hey at least someone in this thread shared my thinking

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia You're delusional: no one in this galaxy shares your way of thinking.
You're all alone, Remi...

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Ryu_Niiyama

Welp time for me to get a bone X then. Geez at this rate Next Console Release I'll only need to track the fighting games.

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Ryu_Niiyama

@Grumblevolcano Normally I'd agree, but I'm somewhat halfway out as is. I'm going to need something that really speaks to my interests for the next systems as most of my favorites are done, have become train wrecks (used to be a big bioware and bethesda and to a lesser extent ubisoft fan) or are going to the swtich, so we aren't even done with this cycle and I'm already cautious, when normally I'm enthused about everything. The streaming future isn't going to work for me really as I don't have the internet for it and I'm not going to pay through the nose to get it either.
E3 for me this year is going to be a "convince me to stay" show rather than a "oh look at all the new shiny" that it normally is (I usually find something from each of the big three that I like but this is the first year that I'm nervous.

Ah well. All we can do is wait. Perhaps there are surprises in store for me.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Voices? We also hears voices, yes... we hears them.
Does it tell you to eats them, precious?

All kidding aside, that ring would certainly look good on my Infinity Glove, though...

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@ThanosReXXX They tell me the $#@[email protected]# HDD is spinning again

@Ryu_Niiyama I don't think the next consoles look so bleak. It's encouraging they're *not happening any time soon. I just don't know what they're going to do with all that power beyond make bigger movies. But I thought gaming was all about massive online looter shooters now?

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Morpheel

They went and made the SAD literally just the S with no mouth.

I stand corrected.

Yeah I don’t know either.

Eh! My gameplay videos

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Angelic_Lapras_King

Seems odd you would make the discless version look the same as the S model. Just hope not many less informed parents who buy their kid an XBONE and several disc games don't accidentally buy the wrong model....

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Ryu_Niiyama

@NEStalgia well my issues are more thematically than the streaming is the future option. I have always been a “ you bring the games and I shall bring my wallet” sort of woman.

The problem is gaming is like comics: a lot of it looks familiar but when you are clearly not the intended demographic it feels bleak because you want to care because this used to be magic for you.

I don’t mean in a “I like five games so there is a game drought!!!!” brigade (hence why I was a very happy wiiu owner and it is one of my largest collections) I play a ton of games and often love B/C list efforts as much as the AAA movies. However that is my issue games are not only movies... they are incoherent or tone deaf movies. They are trying to squish too much in an attempt to follow 14-20 year old boys and a lot of it becomes a mess that makes me question if I should exit the hobby.

Yet I know that is not the right answer because I will play Sekiro or SF V and go “oh yeah this I why I sink so much time and money into this”. However, that feeling is happening less often on the twins. That is what makes me nervous. Japanese companies keep certain trends enough that gaming is familiar, comforting and enjoyable. Western devs change so much that I can’t “bet” on them. So that makes me wonder if I should focus on retro or BC and Nintendo and sit out the twins this next rotation. I’m still not entirely enamored with the twins as is. It doesn’t help that the Switch is trying its level best to ruin me financially.

Still committed to riding out this cycle with the twins though.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia It burnnnsss usss....
I don't have the spinning up issue, but I stopped fighting the (external) hard drive light's quirky behavior. At some point, I tried the option to power down drives completely, when switching the console off, but that started to annoy me too much because that stopped my free games from automatically downloading and installing. I even forgot I turned on that option, and for several days actually wondered why the hell Plants vs Zombies refused to download completely...

@Morpheel Somebody at Microsoft's marketing department should definitely be fired, coming up with that name/acronym. What the hell were they thinking? Social media are having a field day with it, and you can't even blame them.

@Angelic_Lapras_King Also a good point. Although in all fairness, if you buy a console AND games at the same time, then I would hope that the people in the store would be kind enough (and knowledgeable/professional enough) to point out the difference between the various models, and that the latest model isn't compatible with discs anymore...

Mistakes could happen when someone who isn't aware only buys a game, though. But even then, I'd hope that someone in the store is smart enough to ask the buyer for what model console it is. Unless of course the buyer doesn't have a clue...

Here's hoping they keep the receipt, just in case...

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@Ryu_Niiyama Yeah, I can get that to a point, though it could be burnout as well. There's just been so MUCH it can feel like the Atari era. And yeah, the younger demographic seems to have very different tastes and we're not the target demo anymore, but I don't know I feel like there's a lot of revivals for the "old guard" where devs have been champing at the bit to do it and they're finally getting chances. BUT, the mainstream...yeah....it's definitely geared toward that adolescent market....and the "movies" are generally awful (though isn't that true of actual movies these days too? Do you actually find the new SW films to be anything but merchandising opportunities to kids?) of course we were once the kids they were trying to cater to so maybe we just didn't notice that's how it's always been.

I really have to get into Sekiro. I own it...I just haven't tried it yet! I'm stuck on my like 300 JRPGs across 3 systems....

The West will always be the West. Companies here, especially in entertainment, relentlessly try to follow whatever the trend looks like it is. It resembles the TV industry. Only now, in the internet age, it's not just guessing at trends and accidentally stumbling into success by guessing the trend wrong. They now have metrics for every facet of everything to give people the EXACT pinpoint trend with EXACTLY the right set of features to match it (If I could uninvent the internet, I'd do it, it's broken EVERYTHING about human society that used to work and replaced it with a vacuous nothing of ever adapting metrics.)

I do wonder what magic the new Twins 3.0 will have other than "shiner graphics" though, to make them stand out. I can't help but feel XBox is the one more attuned, this time to "here's how to make hardware compelling" versus Sony's "let's just iterate the same thing with moar blast processing." And I actually just said that about MS with a straight face....

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@ThanosReXXX I wouldn't care if it weren't for the fact it's doing something physically destructive to the hardware. That's what bugs me. Who knows if it's doing that to the non-replaceable internal drive, too?

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