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BlueOcean

@ReaderRagfish Haha, sounds confusing enough. The Final Fantasy games had a unique configuration, right?

On SNES I don't remember any game where A was accept and B cancel like on DS (and Game Boy). It was either B or START to accept (some games even display "Press B" on the start screen like Super Mario Kart) but there were games that used almost any button to accept and had no cancel button so you had to reset the console to cancel.

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NEStalgia

@BlueOcean Ahh, so your Brook is also a wireless dongle? I guess it's not too different then. What's special about the One X is it attaches to the controller into the battery compartment, it contains the rechargeable battery you'll use on the controller, though it's unfortunately small so you only get a few hours of battery life compared to many hours on AA or Play&Charge batteries. OTOH, it has gyros (X1 is the only console without gyros in the controller, so that's a big deal if using it on other machines), and it can turn on PS4 remotely (not sure the dongle ones can do it, however it can't turn Switch on.) Other than that I guess there's no real benefit other than that one controller will work on PS4, Switch, and X1 without separate dongles for each, and that it supports motion controls for PS4 and Switch (more important for Switch though.)

I'm far from fluent and only slightly literate like a young child, but I can fumble my way around Japanese when needed My grammar is horrific though if trying to form sentences to the point of probable incomprehensibility. I think they recommend, what, 20 years to be JLNP3? And that's far from native.... It's rough going from English, though ironically Japanese to English is apparently even worse (the same conversion in the opposite direction but THOUSANDS of vocal sounds we have in English that don't exist in the sparsely tonal Japanese language.)

Yeah, I'm a bad influence on @yosheel

Also, my Jaw dropped to the floor, I went to PushSuare for the first time in like 10 months just to see if their Fallout review was up.....I scanned the comments in an article and saw a post from you. I finally peeled my jaw off the floor.

@Yosheel Yeah the A/B thing never EVER stops being annoying with XBox and Sony being different from Nintendo (yet on Japanese models, Sony actually matches Nintendo and XBox is the odd one.) On Sony, they changed it because "circle" means "yes" in Asia, while "X" means no. Here in the west, "circle" means nothing, red means no, and "X" can ambiguously mean yes, or no depending on who's using it and how..... XBox does it inverse because XBox inherited the Dreamcast layout.....Sega was A-B-C on the Genesis and Saturn, and when they moved to the diamond shifted the 3-button into the current XBox layout. So it's really Sega's fault for doing what Nintendon't. Conveniently it also matches the 6-button layout of their arcade cabs... Nintendo's been consistent, actually.

Eventually muscle memory gets it right 80% of the time. But Dark Souls Switch messes you up forever.

The UI is actually excellent, it's my favorite of the systems. My advice: Ignore the home menu at all. It doesn't exist. IT's just there for when you boot up. ALL activity happens on the guide menu which is conveniently similar to the Windows Start Menu. Unlike the PS4 and Switch interface it doesn't pull you out of the whole game into a full screen menu to do anything, you can do everything in the popup menu with your game still visible behind it. It's really slick once you get used to it.

Pro Tip: Organize your digital games into Groups (folders) and make them visible on the guide menu. You can then access your entire library in a nice tabbed list right in the little popup menu only ever having to go full screen if you want to brows/manage the full catalog/download queue, or system settings.

It's my favorite interface of the consoles once you get it set up like you want it. Switch is a very close #2 (might be #1 if it ever got folders), and PS4 was hideous on day 1 and is still hideous. Gawd I hate that UI...it makes me miss XMB from PS3.....and that's really sad.

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Morpheel

I actually did create some groups. I didn't know I could see them in the start menu though, so thanks for the tip.

Xbox seems to have the option of changing the control scheme universally. Not sure if that's a good idea to "Nintendize" the controls, or if it would get more confusing with the in-game prompts.

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BlueOcean

@NEStalgia So then the disadvantage of my adapter is that I can only use it on one console for one other console's controllers, that's why Brook has so many models but the advantage is that it doesn't require any additional accessories on the controller while the disadvantage of yours is that it uses an accessory that goes into the battery compartment but as a plus it has motion controls for using the Xbox controller on Switch and PS4. Interesting.

Grabbed by the Ghoulies was one of the first games that I played on Xbox One, it has a type of enemy that is defeated by pressing different buttons that appear on screen very quickly, can you imagine that after having a DS, 3DS and Wii U? But I had a lot of fun with the game.

The thing I hate about the Wii U user interface is that annoying Mii voices are heard while using the GamePad. I have to mute the volume because of that. The PS4 has relaxing music like GameCube that you can turn on and off but the UI doesn't make any sense, it's like a list of recently used games/folders, a "Most popular" list of your own games... :S There is a Library section at the end by I never use it and you can do a few things with the home button like turning off the console and little else. The PS store is also a bit chaotic (like the Switch store). The Xbox One is the most useful and yes you can do anything on the Guide: launch favourite games and apps, check the download queue, start a voice party, find friends, go to screenshots, go to Settings, go to My games and apps, turn off the console... The Home screen has new tabs that I find useful: Game Pass and Store (but the Store is also on the Guide). I like the recent changes they introduced on the UI, especially on the Guide.

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BrainOfGrimlock

It’s not the layout of the PS store that bothers me all that much, it’s that the thing crashes, hangs or just flat out refuses to work seemingly every time I use the thing - i do all my PS store shopping on a browser now just to save the rage.

The xbox UI is in a much better place now after what feels like 600 overhauls, but I still think (and it may be a rose-tinted opinion) that the store was largely better/more responsive on the 360. I’m pretty happy with how it is now though, although i’d like it to be even quicker as - whilst an improvement - it still gets a touch of the sluggishes now and then.

BrainOfGrimlock

BlueOcean

@BrainOfGrimlock Microsoft has received tons of complaints about the Windows/Xbox websites including mine because I like browsing games on the PC and phone and it was so confusing, I used to get Windows results when searching for Xbox games, even games that are not playable on Xbox. They have been trying to merge the Windows and Xbox stores with different levels of success. Now Xbox.com is much better organised but it could still be better. Browsing games on Xbox One can be slightly sluggish occasionally (is it connecting to the Xbox website database?) but the sections are clean and well organised and searching games is very easy so as a shopping UI is the best. The PS4 shop crashes but I thought until now that it was my connection.

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By the way for you guys with Game Pass there is the official phone app "Xbox Game Pass" very useful and simple to use for browsing games. You can even select a Game Pass game and install it while you are lying in bed and the Xbox is already off (in instant-on mode).

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redd214

@BrainOfGrimlock really? I can't recall a time the ps store crashing or not working in 5 years. I go on there a couple of times every week and while it can be slow occasionally, never had the issues you described.

redd214

BlueOcean

@redd214 It has happened to me several times while checking the Deals sections.

BlueOcean

BrainOfGrimlock

@redd214 suspect it’s because i’m in Australia - we get spiders and snakes instead of nice things!

Our internet is also generally terrible over here too, although i’m one of the lucky ones; my xbox doesn’t have any issues (except live has been flaky as all heck for the past few weeks) so it must be where/what we connect to ps wise.

It’s quite a common complaint on our regional Kotaku; It’s better than it was but still maddeningly inconsistent.

BrainOfGrimlock

redd214

@BrainOfGrimlock ahh gotcha that sucks! Hope by the time next gen starts they have it squared away for you guys down under!

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Dezzy

Perhaps the most annoying thing on Xbox/Windows Store for me is the fact that you need to click an extra "See Price" button to know how much something costs.
What on earth is the point of that?

It's dangerous to go alone! Stay at home.

Morpheel

I think that just happens with 360 games.

Edit:

Ok so on the first night, it downloaded the evil within 2, soma, final fantasy xv (just the base game) and metal slug. Not too shabby if I do say so myself. It’s still got a long way to go though.

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Dezzy

@Yosheel

Why get FFXV base? The royal edition is best value by far.

It's dangerous to go alone! Stay at home.

Morpheel

I got the royal edition, it’s just that everything is a separate download, and the thing only downloaded the base game so far.

It’s a list of things my Xbox managed to download overnight, not a list of new purchases.

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NEStalgia

Btw, if anyone finds good black Friday or cyber Monday xblg deals, tag me! I've been hoping for them but so far it looks like only 6 month and not 12 months gets a discount. I have until May for my sub, but was hoping to cash in on same black Friday discount. Sony's doing $40, so I'm hoping MS does a surprise counter.

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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Yeah, sadly enough, it would seem we're definitely going in that direction. No need to actually know things anymore: just Google it, or listen to that chip in your head telling you the answer. Wonder what that would do for diplomas and universities...

@Dezzy It only triggers the alert if the word is either solitary, or in front of a word. So, because the 'I' was in front of it, it didn't hit any triggers. But you did, by mentioning the actual word...

@ReaderRagfish More like: that feeling when everyone on the internet expects other people they anonymously meet online to understand what they actually mean ALL the time. There's an age gap, where I am concerned, and as such also a generational gap. I'm not really a fan of or simply don't appreciate text message abbreviations and so on. It may be convenient for the one typing it, but for me it's a bother, because it might necessitate me looking up what the hell it actually means, and some of them (like the abuse of smileys by some people I know) aren't always appropriate or relevant. Not everything is LOL or ROFL...

I realize that makes me sound like an angry old man, but so be it. I guess I just like to actually know what people mean, without having to get a PhD in internet and/or l33t speak...
Makes discussions all the more easy, especially since in online talks, you've already lost other people's intonation and their facial expressions, so sometimes, even with normal text alone, correct interpretation isn't even guaranteed between two or more people. (which then necessitates more text for one of them, to explain to the other what was actually meant, and so on, and so on, back and forth. Voilà! The text wall was born... )

On a side note: I actually did understand what it meant, simply by logical deduction used on the rest of the sentence, but I've never seen it been abbreviated before. It really isn't as weird as you think it sounds.
And who decides when what is known? And what if we all start to abbreviate our own sentences? Could become pretty damn confusing, if you ask me.

@Yosheel the reason that the game installed just fine is because it only needs to read a unique disc code that's at the start of the disc, or it could use the code burnt into the center rim of the disc. That's a code unique to the game and/or that specific disc, making it the perfect anti-piracy measure. So, as long as that part of the disc is still readable, the rest can be a garbled mess, because that's all ignored, and the actual game, or rather the version of it that's optimized for the Xbox One, will be downloaded to your console, as you may have noticed.

Oh, and you'll get used to the buttons soon enough. If the letters confuse you, then just focus on the colors. Most games display the colors of the buttons on screen as well. As for the menu: that's completely customizable. For example: I've moved the Games with Gold page to the top by pressing the options button on the controller, and now it sits right under the main page, where your most or recently played games are displayed.

But personally, I just press the center Xbox button, to get the pop up menu, so I can go straight to my games page, or whatever other page I like.

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@NEStalgia

https://www.cdkeys.com/xbox-live/memberships

https://cheapdigitaldownload.com/buy-xbox-live-gold-12-months...

And for all you non-American readers, here's the European version of that website:
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-xbox-live-gold-membership...

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redd214

Fallout 76 on sale on Xbox store for $40 if anyone is interested, what a disaster all around!

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BrainOfGrimlock

Yeah nah, they could make it F2P right now and i’d still not be interested, which is alarming given my propensity for their games in years gone by.

Fascinating (and tragic) to see though, going to be some very interesting conversations happening over the next year at Bethesda I suspect. Think people prophesising their doom (no pun) are getting somewhat ahead of themselves, but I can’t deny that having seen how much games have moved on in the past 5 years I find many of their titles to look/feel sorely dated.

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Morpheel

Get it for the memes.

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