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ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Software drives sales, yes but the key nuance is that it's only part of the equation, as I already mentioned before to our other discussion partner. If the hardware isn't appealing enough in whatever way, be that powerful, innovative or what have you, then those software sales won't come either, so they're more of a second tier sales driver.

I personally also don't see and believe anything super-enticing in Sea of Thieves that would make it a system seller. Actually far from it: people were more enthusiastic about it when it was announced than when it finally arrived, so I don't see it shifting massive numbers, to be honest.

As for Microsoft and Sony fighting, I still adhere to my own tag line in these forum topics here, since it does still apply so very much:

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

It's kinda like my version of two dogs fighting over a bone, and the third one running away with it...

P.S.

So, if I ever want to get to know the actual voice behind the madness, I'd have to hope that Sony wins again next generation, so you'd finally buy that Xbox One X?

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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Dezzy

Right, I'm definitely getting an Xbone in the next month or so.

I just started buying the entire Xbox 360 library of exclusives. I searched ebay and saw how cheap so many of them were so figured why not.

Just bought Fable 2 and Gears of War 2 for £3 each. Eat that current gen!

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DarthNocturnal

Sea of Thieves has a nice foundation and some walls... but it needs more furniture and a roof. If that makes sense.

This is coming from someone who logged 250+ hours before launch.

"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

Dezzy

@DarthNocturnal

The bottom and sides are way important on boats. Roof is optional.

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Oh, certainly. But right now, we know where XBox is going to be for a few years (they'd tick off everyone here if they changed platforms AGAIN in the next few years!), and so does Sony. Fortunately for Sony, their hardware is perfectly appealing. The cheap one is better than MS's cheap one. Their expensive one isn't as good as MS's expensive one, but it's notably cheaper, and has a deeper library of big titles all on a platform way better than MS's base model, and "reasonably" below MS's premium. It gives MS a big enough sea to swim in, while Sony has a perfectly stable dam before their ocean...."don't change horses in midstream" and all that

LOL, oh, I may still buy it before then. Depends on pricing. And how much "I want" can override "I have no actual use for or time to use this"

NEStalgia

ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Well, if by the cheap one you mean the original, black Xbox One: that almost doesn't exist anymore, so that equation goes out the door. The One S is now the standard model, and then there's the X for all the thoroughbreds out there.

And weirdly enough, almost in an alternative universe kinda way, the PS4's entire line has one inexplicable, glaring omission compared to both models of the Xbox One, and that is that it doesn't have the superior media drive, which for all intents and purposes should have been incorporated in the PS4, NOT in the Xbox One.

And the fact that the Pro is cheaper is simply because it's considerably less powerful, so you get what you pay for: the obvious lesser of the two premium flagships of these respective brands.

And I know all about the wanting it vs having no actual use for it. I've bought two new consoles in two consecutive years, while I actually find myself having less and less time to spend on them...

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'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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DarthNocturnal

@Dezzy

Haha. Well, anyhoo, yeah, they have a nice foundation for a game, and it can be quite fun. But I do agree that it will eventually wear thin, if left as it is.

Thankfully, they have several content updates planned from May and over the summer. Hopefully, they are substantial.

EDIT: Also, just a few more hours until the next wave of Xbox Original games go live. Already got SWBF 1 and 2 purchased. Does anyone have any experience with Panzer Dragoon Orta, by the by? It sounds like “Star Fox with dragons“, and I've heard nothing but praise for the series itself.

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"Sometimes, I just don't understand human behavior" - C-3P0

mowerdude

Is Blinx The Time Sweeper worth picking up on Xbox one backwards compatible, never got around to playing it back when it first released on the original Xbox?

mowerdude

ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal That game is an absolute must-have, if you ask me, and it indeed gets a lot of praise from many media sources as well, and rightfully so. Only steer clear if you really dislike on-rails shooters, otherwise, I'd say give it a go and you probably won't be disappointed.

I still own and love it, so for me it's a no-brainer.

And now that we're talking about recommendations, from the first wave, I could easily also recommend Black, Crimson Skies, Ninja Gaiden Black, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, and if you're a Star Wars fan Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

From the upcoming second wave, I can easily recommend Blinx: The Time Sweeper, Breakdown, Conker: Live & Reloaded, The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, Hunter: The Reckoning, Jade Empire, Panzer Dragoon Orta, SSX 3, Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction, and again all the Star Wars games, if you're into that (they're going to support backward compatibility for Star Wars Battlefront, Star Wars Battlefront II, Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy, Star Wars Jedi Starfighter, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II, and Star Wars Republic Commando).

And all these games are going to be looking, and running considerably better than on the original hardware. Microsoft had this to say about it:

"These Original Xbox games will feature enhanced visuals in their backward-compatible guise, and will display at up to 4X the pixel count on Xbox One and Xbox One S, and up to 16X the pixel count on Xbox One X."

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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ThanosReXXX

@mowerdude If you don't mind a game with some growing pains, and one that is quite the challenge at certain points, then you might like it. And the graphics and music are great, especially for that time, and the time manipulation mechanic used in the game is also quite unique for a platformer. But ultimately, it's your own choice, obviously.

The second one was a bit better, because it addressed some of the issues of the first game, but I found both of them to be good games.

Here's a video review:

@DarthNocturnal And here's a Panzer Dragoon Orta review for you. Might help you decide...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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DarthNocturnal

@ThanosReXXX

Thanks! I like Star Fox and the like, and I've only ever heard good things about PD in general. I had my sights set on Mercenaries and Jedi Starfighter, but I may rethink one of those for now.

Destroy All Humans would be considered... except it's double the price of even (surprisingly) the Star Wars games, and I actually bought it digitally years ago on 360. I'm hoping they honor that purchase now (same with Metal Arms: Glitch in the System, which will hopefully come to BC as well).

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ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal You're welcome.

As for Destroy All Humans: not my cup of tea. I tried out the reboot/remaster on the Wii a couple of years back, and although mildly entertaining, I found most of it a bit too... well, juvenile for my taste. Maybe it's my age, seeing as I'm soon to be 48, or maybe it's simply not my kind of game. And that is also why I haven't mentioned it in my list of recommendations.

Concerning the digitally bought and possibly re-downloadable games: that could come, but so far, all I've personally seen available for download on my own Xbox One S is the Games with Gold titles, and those are only Xbox 360 titles, so I'm not holding out for digitally purchased OG Xbox titles to become available for free download or even for a discount. But if it does happen, then I would personally like to request Stubbs the Zombie. That's the only OG Xbox game I ever purchased digitally on my Xbox 360...

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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DarthNocturnal

@ThanosReXXX

Eh? Destroy All Humans never got a reboot or remaster on any system. Wii did get Big Willy Unleashed, but I don't believe that was made by Pandemic (they were either working for EA by then, or assimilated).

Some of the juvenile humor is present throughout the entire series (what little I played of 2 seemed to ramp it up somewhat), but there were some good satire/ fun poking. Like when you impersonate a mayor and blame all of the town's issues on communism (it's set in the 50s. “Better dead then red“ and all that).

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SharkAttackU

Panzer Dragoon Orta is the finest rail shooter ever made. I love the Star Fox franchise, but Orta blows Star Fox out of the water, er, uhm... sky.

Seriously. Orta is amazing.

SharkAttackU

ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal Ah, okay. I thought it was simply a port of the Xbox original with some minor graphical polish. And I did recognize the satire in the Wii game as well, which is why I said I found it mildly entertaining in some part. The voice acting was also good, but the whole fart jokes/fart gun and belching got real boring real fast at a certain point.

'The console wars are like boobs. Sony and Microsoft fight over which ones look the nicest and Nintendo's are the most fun to play with.'

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NEStalgia

@ThanosReXXX Nah, the "cheap one" is the S. Not sure what pricing is like now, but back when we were first talking, S was actually cheaper than OG units floating around.

Yeah, I agree with the glaring omission of the disc drive and now the roles should have been reversed. I can't explain that one, at all! Though Sony got lucky because at least here people almost see discs as quaint and retro and everything is streaming streaming streaming......and maybe that was Sony's point, to force people onto their digital media platforms? That's all I've got....

Yeah, Pro is cheaper because it's less powerful, as well as because it's older. But that price difference still speaks to a lot of people. More games available, lower price, versus less games available, better visuals, more money....... X1X absolutely is more niche for the crowd that really wants a gaming PC without bothering with a gaming PC, but equally willing to give up the typical perks of console (first and second party games.) Making that the pricier option isn't doing it any favors. The S is in fact the better budget console though (worse performance than base PS4, but also cheaper.....) So Sony keeps the middle while MS chips at the high end and low ends. For now, middle seems to be the big money though.

As for Sea of Thieves, even if it's not all that great, it's still the first significant exclusive in a long time, and definitely raised awareness or attention on the X1. Something that doesn't happen often.

NEStalgia

ThanosReXXX

@NEStalgia Where did you read that the One S has worse performance than the base PS4? Because that isn't true. And currently, we have the PS4 Slim, and in a direct comparison, the Xbox One S wins on several fronts:
https://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/xbox-one-s-vs-ps4-slim-...

The PS4's GPU is slightly stronger (0.3 Tflops to be exact), but that is negligible in the larger picture, because the Xbox One has faster and more RAM.

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DarthNocturnal

It looks like XBL will honor old purchases! The Xbox Original games went live, and Destroy All Humans was added to my “ready to install“ collection.

Metal Arms when?

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ThanosReXXX

@DarthNocturnal Well, congrats, then. This actually got me hoping (probably against all hope considering it's popularity/rarity) that they actually will put Stubbs the Zombie in any of the upcoming waves. Would be nice...

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Dezzy

So how exactly is MGS Peace Walker backwards compatible. It says it is on the main site but I thought the only version that was available in the west was part of the MGS collection. Which the backwards compatability list doesn't actually mention. I'm confused.

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