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221. Posted:

RR529 wrote:

Just read Digitally Downloaded's thoughts on the reveal (written by former NL forum member @Bankai), and they weren't impressed at all.

They felt like MS has either forgotten how to appeal gamers, or they only want gaming to be a minor, side aspect of the device.

Pushing all the gaming news to the second half, featuring a very minor amount of gameplay footage, with only a vague throwaway promise of 8 new IP's, shows that gaming simply isn't a priority with the Xbox One (cemented by the fact that their big HALO reveal was for a TV series).

They mentioned that the "all-in-one" direction MS is taking with the device isn't a bad move (it actually makes lots of business sense), but at the same time, gamers are the group that pay attention to console reveals, so not courting them in this kind of presentation was either do to ill planning, or because MS simply doesn't care for them anymore.

Furthermore, they mentioned that they made poor decisions in choosing what "all-in-one" features to show off. The NFL deal is meaningless to anyone outside of the U.S., making it a poor choice to highlight during a global reveal (many other features seem U.S. only as well).

Or microsoft saw it this ay

Xbox reveal = console and features
E3 = gamers
Build= devs

Microsoft did the same thing in 2005 with the MTV event before E3 or did people get a case of forgetfulness.

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The forum game of who is saying what doesn't work because I've seen plenty of Xbox loyalists not pleased just the same.

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All my Xbox friends, save for one who strangely liked Kinect, are all PISSED.

Everyone on Destructoid is either laughing at or pitying Microsoft.

I had one friend who was super hyped about the reveal... Now he's just making fun of it.
In my opinion , this was a depressingly poor showing, and though I have nothing against Sports games, it's really telling of who your intended audience is when all the games shown off, sans two, were sports games and COD.

I was told online is still stuck behind a Live pay-wall. Is that true? Because if it is, I honestly couldn't care less about this mediabox.

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Sony_70 wrote:

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Just face it, gamers are not their #1 priority. It was clear as a bell. PS4 and Wii-U picked up some extra sales today. Microsoft is going after another demographic.

HUh dfine gamers. I'm seeing a lot of positive press coming from the regular games and not the hardcore forum fanboys. Guess which is the minority

Also sony is letting publishers choose what to do with DRM which is infinitely more dangerous than having it controlled. .

I think Digitally Downloaded said it perfectly.

This is an event only gamers pay attention to, so why push all the gaming announcements (which were all pretty vague) to the end? That only serves to leave a bad impression on the one group of people that actually knows & cares that the thing exists.

EDIT: just ignore this. I've now seen you've responded to my original post.

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Shares of other game companies often rise after a big reveal. Nintendo's had risen after the PS4 reveal.
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I love the controller. It doesn't change much, but all the changes seem for the better (outside of the AA battery thing).
I rather like the box. The fact that it's quiet is something that I appreciate. As for the new Kinect, it seems impressive. I doubt that the demos weren't staged, but if that's what Microsoft has set as the ideal, then that's a good thing.
As an entertainment hub, it seems supremely impressive. As a games machine, I just don't really know much about it. I look forward to seeing more of Forza 5 and Quantum Break, and that's really all there was that interested me game-wise. I'm pretty sure that there's games for it, though. By getting all the technical and non-game stuff out of the way in this press conference, they'll be able to focus on what gaming fans want most during E3: the games.

I get that the people that would watch this would want game announcements at the forefront, but there's a lot that Microsoft wants this device to be, and to display it all they had to spread it out. I don't know if I completely agree with the way they went, but I can see what they're doing.

Oh, and if anyone honestly didn't see this coming (as in, that Microsoft wants this to be an entertainment hub, not necessarily a gaming device) then he or she hasn't been paying attention to Microsoft as of late. Personally, that strategy works fine for me. I can use this as my all in one device and then use my Wii U for some of the games that it won't have.

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I was told online is still stuck behind a Live pay-wall. Is that true? Because if it is, I honestly could care less about this mediabox.

Noooooo! Nooo. You have to connect online at least once a day don't you? No way with that implemented would they still charge a monthly fee. My god thats stupid.

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Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company whowas upfront about today not being about the games and theyw ere saving that till e3.

Anyway excited in almost less than three weeks games games games. Looking forward to X, Knack, and Quantum Break. Hope level 5 decideds to translate Time travelers.

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229. Posted:

Reads some highlights...

Just messing. :D

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230. Posted:

moomoo wrote:

I love the controller. It doesn't change much, but all the changes seem for the better (outside of the AA battery thing).
I rather like the box. The fact that it's quiet is something that I appreciate. As for the new Kinect, it seems impressive. I doubt that the demos weren't staged, but if that's what Microsoft has set as the ideal, then that's a good thing.
As an entertainment hub, it seems supremely impressive. As a games machine, I just don't really know much about it. I look forward to seeing more of Forza 5 and Quantum Break, and that's really all there was that interested me game-wise. I'm pretty sure that there's games for it, though. By getting all the technical and non-game stuff out of the way in this press conference, they'll be able to focus on what gaming fans want most during E3: the games.

I get that the people that would watch this would want game announcements at the forefront, but there's a lot that Microsoft wants this device to be, and to display it all they had to spread it out. I don't know if I completely agree with the way they went, but I can see what they're doing.

Oh, and if anyone honestly didn't see this coming (as in, that Microsoft wants this to be an entertainment hub, not necessarily a gaming device) then he or she hasn't been paying attention to Microsoft as of late. Personally, that strategy works fine for me. I can use this as my all in one device and then use my Wii U for some of the games that it won't have.

I too saw this coming and I have to say I am quite pleased with it. Honestly thats they way I feel. Heck my main gaming console was going to be a Wii U that has changed and my other console was going to be either PS4 or Xbox One. Still though I will be watching E3 for both Sony and MS and see if either one of them makes me lean more to them. As it is right now I am leaning more towards Xbox One.

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231. Posted:

turtlelink wrote:

Reads some highlights...

Just messing. :D

Fresh Prince makes everything better. Good news is there's still time to get rid of the DRM becuase coming from Major Nelson and other eecs it sounds like this stuff is no where near being set in stone. The lack of info on this is bad and so my hype levels are at a 6/10/

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Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company who was upfront about today not being about the games and they were saving that till e3.

It's even funnier when a crew makes fun of Nintendo for revealing ports and sequels...and Microsoft and Sony do the same exact thing in their presentations!!

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Sony_70 wrote:

Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company who was upfront about today not being about the games and they were saving that till e3.

It's even funnier when a crew makes fun of Nintendo for revealing ports and sequels...and Microsoft and Sony do the same exact thing in their presentations!!

Nothing wrong with that as long as we get ahealth does of new content as well. Mario Kart HD is going to be awesome and while Killzone looks bleh I really am looking forward too Infamous. I'd rather have a PGR instead of a Forza but this is the same reason why we re getting Mario Kart instead of Fzero.

Honestly Sony is the only one who doesn't really get flack for ports and sequels for some odd reason

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Sony_70 wrote:

Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company who was upfront about today not being about the games and they were saving that till e3.

It seems to me that nearly everyone across the board is more ticked of with this thing's features rather than it's lack of games (though the lineup of the reveal is telling).

Also Microsoft, what's your plan for dealing with GameStop and GameFly with your new used game policies?

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Maybe I missed something but where in the presentation did MS announcing this used game thing that everyone is talking about?

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236. Posted:

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Sony_70 wrote:

Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company who was upfront about today not being about the games and they were saving that till e3.

It's even funnier when a crew makes fun of Nintendo for revealing ports and sequels...and Microsoft and Sony do the same exact thing in their presentations!!

Let's be honest, every system is 'guilty' of milking and rehashing games. Super Mario Bros, being early pioneers on the subject, says a big hello.

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Sony_70 wrote:

LzQuacker wrote:

Sony_70 wrote:

Kind of funny seeing all this hate and Apathy coming from the give nintendo a few more chances till E3 crew, yet we can't give the same to a company who was upfront about today not being about the games and they were saving that till e3.

It's even funnier when a crew makes fun of Nintendo for revealing ports and sequels...and Microsoft and Sony do the same exact thing in their presentations!!

Nothing wrong with that as long as we get ahealth does of new content as well. Mario Kart HD is going to be awesome and while Killzone looks bleh I really am looking forward too Infamous. I'd rather have a PGR instead of a Forza but this is the same reason why we re getting Mario Kart instead of Fzero.

Honestly Sony is the only one who doesn't really get flack for ports and sequels for some odd reason

It might be because they make enough new IPs that you can't really complain about a lack of them.

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Maybe I missed something but where in the presentation did MS announcing this used game thing that everyone is talking about?

They didn't, it was mentioned after the conference when the press questioned it.

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Tasuki wrote:

Maybe I missed something but where in the presentation did MS announcing this used game thing that everyone is talking about?

Interviews following the presentation:

Used games can be used on another account, but you have to pay full price to use them. Or rather, you pay to get Microsoft's permission to play them (Phil Harrison with Kotaku) ;)

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240. Posted:

TysonOfTime wrote:

Also Microsoft, what's your plan for dealing with GameStop and GameFly with your new used game policies?

I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. That could really mix things up.
Edit: Will the price to play a game on another account drop with the game's retail value?

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