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SCAR392

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Well, I couldn't really give a crap less about people think of Nintendo. It hasn't stopped me from owning their console over any other since the N64 days.

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Good for you, then. I didn't mind paying for Kinect. Notice how we have different opinions about a camera.

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Jazzer94

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'm surprised they actually cut the Kinect. I still don't think it will convince anyone. When they changed the DRM, anyone who complaied still wasn't satisfied.

Up until just recently, Sony was expecting to sell Drive Club's upgrade for if you had PS+, but you would still need to pay the subscription to keep your upgrade. That means you would have been paying for PS+, then like $50, but you would have had to keep your subscription. I didn't see any PS4 owners complaining, and that's exactly the type of thing people would complain about,

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/05/07/whats-included-driv...

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SCAR392

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@Jazzer94
You're not Microsoft, though,

Sony will start selling PS4 consoles for $300 with PS Vita. Believe me? Didn't think so...

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SCAR392 wrote:

@WaveBoy
Well, I couldn't really give a crap less about people think of Nintendo. It hasn't stopped me from owning their console over any other since the N64 days.

@KennyPowers
Good for you, then. I didn't mind paying for Kinect. Notice how we have different opinions about a camera.

And neither could I, play what you like and funk the rest.

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Jazzer94

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@SCAR392 Of cause I'm not an entire corporation doesn't change the fact that this was clearly going to happen within the first two years I'm just surprised they broke so early, but hey this makes the console more appealing to me and cheaper. About your second point in what world would Sony sell a PS4 and PS Vita bundled for $300 dollars when the PS4 is selling for £400 at a blistering pace ? even $550 would be a deal Scar you do say some funny things.

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shingi_70

1,466. Posted:

@SCAR392

People complained everywhere so Sony changed the drive club pass rules to you can keep it once your pa+ lapses.

Nice moves on microsoft part and this is why having three good console makers duking it out rocks.

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Beetlejuice

1,467. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Jazzer94
You're not Microsoft, though,

Sony will start selling PS4 consoles for $300 with PS Vita. Believe me? Didn't think so...

That's because that is a horrible and nonsensical idea. There is abosolutely no logical benefit to Sony by them doing that.

Removing the Kinect, something a lot of people have no use for, from the bundle and selling the Xbox on its own at a lower price is much more reasonable and will move more units.

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SCAR392

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Well, none of this s*** really affects my decision. Ultimately, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, Rare's games, Halo, etc. Nintendo and Microsoft IPs get my vote. I couldn't care less whether PS Eye is optional, because Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous still aren't my cup of tea.

That's why I don't get how any of this matters. If you like Sony's games more, it doesn't matter that much, if at all, what Microsoft or Nintendo does. Vice versa.

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Kodeen

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It matters for people who are only planning to buy one "3rd party haven" console. Maybe they don't care about Halo vs Killzone, Forza vs GT, etc...

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shingi_70

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@SCAR392

No ever said it would, I just stated that Sony resolved the issue they had with consumers. You said that you didn't hear complaining but how would you know if you don't care for Sony in the first place.

You seem to be projecting your misguided Sony hate on others. I mean if there was anyone who liked microsoft it was me, I praticlly stanned them uber hard in this thread over the last year, and I would have paid $500 to play Halo and Fable.

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SCAR392

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SCAR392 wrote:

@Jazzer94
You're not Microsoft, though,

Sony will start selling PS4 consoles for $300 with PS Vita. Believe me? Didn't think so...

That's because that is a horrible and nonsensical idea. There is abosolutely no logical benefit to Sony by them doing that.

Removing the Kinect, something a lot of people have no use for, from the bundle and selling the Xbox on its own at a lower price is much more reasonable and will move more units.

What about a PS Eye/Move bundle for $450, a Vita bundle for $550, or all of it for $600? So now Xbox One has another SKU to choose from. Sony still doesn't have those options for consumers. The PS Vita/PS4 bundle is only in EU, IIRC.

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Beetlejuice

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SCAR392 wrote:

That's why I don't get how any of this matters. If you like Sony's games more, it doesn't matter that much, if at all, what Microsoft or Nintendo does. Vice versa.

You don't get why Microsoft would try to win back 360 owners who were considering buying a PS4 because it was $100 less and didnt come with a peripheral they had no use for?

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SCAR392

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@SCAR392

No ever said it would, I just stated that Sony resolved the issue they had with consumers. You said that you didn't hear complaining but how would you know if you don't care for Sony in the first place.

You seem to be projecting your misguided Sony hate on others. I mean if there was anyone who liked microsoft it was me, I praticlly stanned them uber hard in this thread over the last year, and I would have paid $500 to play Halo and Fable.

Sony didn't cater to everyone. Only the select core fans. Like I said, Sony should have bundles, too. If Sony was really catering to consumers, there would be 4 SKUs:
1. PS4 only
2. PS4 w/ Move/PS Eye
3. PS4 w/ Move/PS Eye and PS Vita
4. PS4 w/ PS Vita

There isn't a bundle option. If you guys really think people don't understand what the GamePad is, then how do you expect them to understand what all these things that aren't even included in the box are? How are people supposed to know what the Move and PS Eye are, if there isn't an immediate connection as simple as an SKU that bundles them?

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Beetlejuice

1,474. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

KennyPowers wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

@Jazzer94
You're not Microsoft, though,

Sony will start selling PS4 consoles for $300 with PS Vita. Believe me? Didn't think so...

That's because that is a horrible and nonsensical idea. There is abosolutely no logical benefit to Sony by them doing that.

Removing the Kinect, something a lot of people have no use for, from the bundle and selling the Xbox on its own at a lower price is much more reasonable and will move more units.

What about a PS Eye/Move bundle for $450, a Vita bundle for $550, or all of it for $600? So now Xbox One has another SKU to choose from. Sony still doesn't have those options for consumers. The PS Vita/PS4 bundle is only in EU, IIRC.

Because if I want to buy a PS4 I can do that, and if I decide later to buy a Vita or a PS Eye, I can just go out and buy it on its own.

You are missing the point completely though. There is nobody refusing to buy either a PS4 or a Vita because they don't come together in a bundle. However, there are potentially millions of consumers who haven't bought an XBox yet because it came with something they didnt want included, the kinect. You can argue against this fact until you are blue in the face, but keep in mind, Microsoft agrees with me, hence why they are now selling the Xbox on its own. Microsoft wouldn't have done this unless they believed it was a smart financial decision.

It's like a value meal at McDonalds. Some people may want to get that, but other people may just feel like ordering fries or a burger on their own. That's why McDonalds lets you order everything on the menu separately, and don't force you to buy a value meal every time.

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SCAR392

1,475. Posted:

@KennyPowers
Ok, but my point was that Sony still isn't offering a bundle of anything. How many people would buy a PS4 w/ Move and the PS Eye for $475?

At this point in time, 0, because it's not even a option. People are more likely to buy products if they are bundled, because they want the whole shibang.

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Beetlejuice

1,476. Posted:

SCAR392 wrote:

shingi_70 wrote:

@SCAR392

No ever said it would, I just stated that Sony resolved the issue they had with consumers. You said that you didn't hear complaining but how would you know if you don't care for Sony in the first place.

You seem to be projecting your misguided Sony hate on others. I mean if there was anyone who liked microsoft it was me, I praticlly stanned them uber hard in this thread over the last year, and I would have paid $500 to play Halo and Fable.

Sony didn't cater to everyone. Only the select core fans. Like I said, Sony should have bundles, too. If Sony was really catering to consumers, there would be 4 SKUs:
1. PS4 only
2. PS4 w/ Move/PS Eye
3. PS4 w/ Move/PS Eye and PS Vita
4. PS4 w/ PS Vita

There isn't a bundle option. If you guys really think people don't understand what the GamePad is, then how do you expect them to understand what all these things that aren't even included in the box are? How are people supposed to know what the Move and PS Eye are, if there isn't an immediate connection as simple as an SKU that bundles them?

Again, why bundle them when they are all optional peripherals of limited use, which can be purchased on their own separately if said PS4 owner is interested in them? Sony is catering to consumers by selling the base unit at a reasonable price and allowing the consumer to make their own choice to buy additional components. Microsoft was doing the opposite, by forcing people interested in the Xbox to pay for something they didn't want (kinect) to get the console.

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Beetlejuice

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SCAR392 wrote:

@KennyPowers
Ok, but my point was that Sony still isn't offering a bundle of anything. How many people would buy a PS4 w/ Move and the PS Eye for $475?

At this point in time, 0, because it's not even a option. People are more likely to buy products if they are bundled, because they want the whole shibang.

Do you think McDonalds would sell more fries if they were only sold in value meals for $7.99, or do you think they would make more money in the long run by offering them on their own for $1.30?

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SCAR392

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@KennyPowers
It's all perspective. If you're hungry, you're not only going to buy french fries at McDonald's.

Think of it more like, McDonald's is selling you the burger for $6, but you get the the fries for $2 more. If you're buying just fries, you aren't VERY hungry. If you only buy the burger, and you're hungry, you won't get full.

I'm just saying. Buy the whole f***ing set, or you're missing out on something or another.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'm just saying. Buy the whole f***ing set, or you're missing out on something or another.

But if you aren't very hungry, or you don't like McDonald's fries or whatever (I always get apple slices), then why buy the whole combo?

Also, this analogy is pretty silly.

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SCAR392

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Kodeen wrote:

SCAR392 wrote:

I'm just saying. Buy the whole f***ing set, or you're missing out on something or another.

But if you aren't very hungry, or you don't like McDonald's fries or whatever (I always get apple slices), then why buy the whole combo?

Also, this analogy is pretty silly.

If you aren't very hungry, go buy the PS Vita. If you like apples, then don't complain about the fries.

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