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SCAR392

1,001. Posted:

Phatosaurus wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

As much as I'd like to believe SCAR deserves it, I highly doubt outright insulting him will help anybody. :/

True.
Back on topic then? Drop the mandatory Kinect and the price and I will buy a Xbone in 3-4 years time.

That probably won't happen.
That's the biggest consfusion I have when I see someone choosing between consoles. Someone always wants a price drop or an aspect of the console to be dropped.
Many people will buy a Wii U for $300-350 once it gets the games, and people DO like the GamePad. Many people will buy an Xbox One for $500 with the Kinect, and people DO like the UI and Kinect from what we've seen so far.

If you don't like what a console has to offer right from the get go, I don't really get the point in asking any different.

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Ralizah

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I certainly will never get another Microsoft console again. The game library for XBOX/360 is... meh. Compared to PS2/PS3 at least. Still, mad props to Microsoft for actually listening to their customers for once.

There is no point in speculating on an Xbone without a Kinect. Microsoft has resolved to make it an integral part of the console, for better or worse. I agree with SCAR on this one thing.

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Phatosaurus

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SCAR392 wrote:

Phatosaurus wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

As much as I'd like to believe SCAR deserves it, I highly doubt outright insulting him will help anybody. :/

True.
Back on topic then? Drop the mandatory Kinect and the price and I will buy a Xbone in 3-4 years time.

That probably won't happen.
That's the biggest consfusion I have when I see someone choosing between consoles. Someone always wants a price drop or an aspect of the console to be dropped.
Many people will buy a Wii U for $300-350 once it gets the games, and people DO like the GamePad. Many people will buy an Xbox One for $500 with the Kinect, and people DO like the UI and Kinect from what we've seen so far.

If you don't like what a console has to offer right from the get go, I don't really get the point in asking any different.

"Different strokes for different folks".

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I certainly will never get another Microsoft console again. The game library for XBOX/360 is... meh. Compared to PS2/PS3 at least. Still, mad props to Microsoft for actually listening to their customers for once.

There is no point in speculating on an Xbone without a Kinect. Microsoft has resolved to make it an integral part of the console, for better or worse. I agree with SCAR on this one thing.

I thought early on, the 360 had a strong line up. It just dwindled around the time they released the Kinect and all that was left were Halo games, Gears of War sequels and FORZA.
I can see the same happening with Xbone. Microsoft will blow their budget in the first 3~ years on exclusives/timed exclusive deals, then half way through the Xbone's lifecycle the support will begin to dwindle again.

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Phatosaurus wrote:

I thought early on, the 360 had a strong line up. It just dwindled around the time they released the Kinect and all that was left were Halo games, Gears of War sequels and FORZA.
I can see the same happening with Xbone. Microsoft will blow their budget in the first 3~ years on exclusives/timed exclusive deals, then half way through the Xbone's lifecycle the support will begin to dwindle again.

That was the reason I jumped on the 360 when I got it years ago. At the time, its library was far stronger than the PS3's, and it was a good deal cheaper, to boot. My reasoning at the time was that it wasn't worth paying $200 extra to play MGS4. Unfortunately, while the PS3 library only got stronger with higher quality exclusives over time, the 360's library of exclusives started to shrivel until the only exclusives it was getting was the occasional shooter or racing game

Also, what didn't occur to me at the time was that Microsoft was an American company and most of my favorite games were Japanese. The 360 had decent JRPG support early on. So much for that.

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I thought early on, the 360 had a strong line up. It just dwindled around the time they released the Kinect and all that was left were Halo games, Gears of War sequels and FORZA.
I can see the same happening with Xbone. Microsoft will blow their budget in the first 3~ years on exclusives/timed exclusive deals, then half way through the Xbone's lifecycle the support will begin to dwindle again.

I'd agree on Microsoft winding down but that was to focus on Kinect and Downloadable content, But I don't see the same thing happening with the Xbone. The IEB leadership was really different back in 2006 and that team got rid of most of Microsoft's internal developers.

Mattrick has actually had the opposite of this Kickstarting Microsoft to heavily restructure their development studios. Since then they've put Phil Spencer and Phil Harrison in charge and have been developing new studios, as well as comeplely overhauling their current studios.

Right now Microsoft Studios line ups is looking to have some potential, but they still have a long way to go to match Worldwide studios.

343 Industries- Halo 5
Good Science Studios - not announced
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment- Rumored to be a new fitness IP.
Microsoft Studios LA- TV stuff starting with Halo TV series.
Platform Next- unannounced
Playful Learning- unannounced
Project Dakota- Project Spark
Turn 10- Forza 5
Twisted Pixel- Loco Cycle
Lionhead- Fable Anniversary
Lift London- unannounced
Press Play- Max and the cursed Brotherhod
Rare Ltd- Kinect Sports Rivals
Soho Productions - Upload Studio?
BigPark- unannounced
Black Tusk Studios- New IP shown at the xbox E3 conference
Microsoft Studios Vancouver- Unannounced
Microsoft Studios Osaka - unannounced

Alo a few of those studios have more than one team.

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1,006. Posted:

also Swery65's game

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shingi_70

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kkslider5552000 wrote:

also Swery65's game

Well I was only counting Internal Developers on that front. But if were also going with current and potential 2nd party partners we have.

Undead Labs- State of Decay(360), Pre-production on its sequel has started (one)
Ska Studios- Charlie Murder (360)
Capybara games- Super Timeforce (360) and Below (one)
4J Studios- Minecraft: Xbox One Edition (one)
Crytek- Ryse (one)
Double Helix Games- Killer Instinct
Frontier Developments- Zoo Tycoon (360 and One)
Grounding Inc (One)
Insomniac Games - Suneset Overdrive (one)
Remedy Entertainment- Quantum Break (one)
Sarbakan- D4 (one)
Signal Studios - Ascend New Gods (360, but I think a port of one is in the works)
Vanguard Games- Halo Spartan Assault (Windows 8/Phone but I'm expecting a port to one)

I know I missed a few.

Honestly at this point Microsoft just needs to announce proper indie support for me to grab their console first. Still exciting times no matter what flasg you fly rather it be Blue, Green, or white.

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CanisWolfred

1,008. Posted:

Proper Indie support would help the One a ton, I can tell you that much. Otherwise I'd be more likely to buy the Ouya than the One. When the 360's support dwindled, they made up for it with excellent downloadable games.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

Proper Indie support would help the One a ton, I can tell you that much. Otherwise I'd be more likely to buy the Ouya than the One. When the 360's support dwindled, they made up for it with excellent downloadable games.

I wouldn't go that far, but yeah most of my purchases on my 360 have been from XBLA.

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shingi_70

1,010. Posted:

Someone on Gaf found all this potentially related too microsofts indie moves

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...809:8o1zuq.2.5

Word Mark LAUNCHWORKS
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Game software
There is also a domain relating to this : www.microsoftlaunchworks.net

So maybe Launchworks is the new XNA?

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Another domain named www.launchworksstudios.com rather points to a development team is renamed to launchworks.

edit2: www.playlaunchworks.com

hm...

Plus a Twitter account
https://twitter.com/MSLaunchworks

Guessing this Platform is going to be announced at build tomorrow. Its also why among other things sessions haven't been announced yet.

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Miss_Dark

1,011. Posted:

Hi, we are Microsoft and we are about to release xbox one.
JUST GIVE US YOUR MONEY AND YOUR FREEDOM.

sorry guys couldn't resist :P

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One thing I like about the console is the overall design of the UI.
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Varia01

1,013. Posted:

@Sony_70: WOW. Those are amazing pics! That Forza Motorsport 5 car (The orange one) looks very nifty, especially with the HD.

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moomoo

1,014. Posted:

Yeah, I really like the UI too. It's slick, and I can imagine that Kinect would work well with it.

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Ralizah

1,015. Posted:

Nope. Looks like Windows 8. -_-

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Varia01

1,016. Posted:

Ralizah wrote:

Nope. Looks like Windows 8. -_-

It may seem that way since both systems are from Microsoft.

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I don't think I will ever really like the lack of lines or anything really separating things beyond the background itself.

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Phatosaurus

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http://sticktwiddlers.com/2013/06/28/xbox-one-dashboard-creat...

Nail. Coffin.

I'm out, There's no redeeming qualities to balance this out.

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shingi_70

1,019. Posted:

Phatosaurus wrote:

http://sticktwiddlers.com/2013/06/28/xbox-one-dashboard-creat...

Nail. Coffin.

I'm out, There's no redeeming qualities to balance this out.

Well that's kind of the point. Its advertising for content from the system and not for mcdonalds like the 360. I know developers would disagree with you. Putting content to the forefront as we go a more digital age.

edit: What else do you expect an advertising director to say.

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Killer instinct is looking really good. Double Helix has been taking community feedback pretty seriousy (as every fighting game developer should) They're having polls on facebook for the Combo names.

Jago combo Trailer

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The Game's reveal at SGC

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