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Topic: Why people aren't respecting Nintendo?

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DiscoDriver43

I respect Nintendo, but honestly, they have huge problems as of right now.:

Constant spam with Mario while ignoring lesser but niche games.

Online is not as good as the competiters. also having the games tied to the console is dumb

Region-locking is dumb.

Letting their console die with little support remember the lack of games on the Wii in 2011-2012

3rd party game support is terrible.

Anyway no offense, but Shadyknights kind of seems dismissive of any critisim of Nintendo and seems to put them on a pedestal.

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RancidVomit86

Yea I disagree with parts of what @ShadyKnights said as well and I'm glad I'm not alone thanks @Jollykarp. In that post Nintendo is being placed on a pedestal. Nintendo has had rights and wrongs just like any company. Their current anti consumer practices should get them some lack of respect from the gaming community just as any company that is doing what they are should also.

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I'm not the only one! @RancidVomit86 and @JollyKarp
Nintendo isn't perfect, they might have done countless many amazing things but they also did as many mistakes.
edit: just noticed "countless" sounds too exagerated...


in the end respect is a matter of point of view, no one is forced to respect Nintendo or any other company in the world and if they were they would respect it even less.

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LzWinky

I don't care if others don't respect Nintendo. I won't let that affect my gaming experience

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CrazyOtto

Artwark wrote:

I'll agree that PC is the easiest way of gaming but even PC is slowly dying out even with Steam.

Huh? PC is actually more popular than it ever was before even if you go outside of Steam.

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I don't respect this thread

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brooks83

ShadyKnights wrote:

fConcern for what Nintendo’s tactics did to a company who could not compete with their working business model is admirable, but ultimately pointless. It sucks, but to take that personally when we, the consumer, benefited from that is… well.. childish. Logically speaking, if Nintendo saved the industry then the companies that died due to their tactics were going to die regardless...

Had the TG-16 and the Master System been able to properly compete in North America, who knows how successful they would have been. Keep in mind the PC Engine was a smash hit in Japan and the Master System did very well in Europe. And maybe with all the money they made, they could still be competitive today. To say that Nintendo's policies were ok because Hudson and Sega were gonna go under eventually anyways is quite a foolish statement.

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AJ_Lethal

Because it's the cool thing to do, and whoever likes Nintendo is a lame scrub.

Action51

It's the internet age.

We now live in an age with instant gratification, instant need for news, and endless hype. We live in an age of bought and paid for journalism in a 24/7 realtime cycle. We have astroturf posters lurking on forums, we have video game journalists looking to carve a name for themselves by being contrarian, and we have an unsustainable "AAA" big budget release model.

On top of all that, Nintendo is popular with the rise and fall of Japanese pop culture in the west. (Sony is smart in adapting to western trends more readily, as they too have reaped the benefits of Japanese pop culture trends in the past) Right now, superheroes and western sci-fi/action is king on TV and in the box offices. DBZ, Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, One Piece, Toonami etc...aren't nearly as popular as they were during the GBA/PS2/Wii/DS era of dominance.

Sony figured this out.

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RancidVomit86

Action51 wrote:

It's the internet age.

We now live in an age with instant gratification, instant need for news, and endless hype. We live in an age of bought and paid for journalism in a 24/7 realtime cycle. We have astroturf posters lurking on forums, we have video game journalists looking to carve a name for themselves by being contrarian, and we have an unsustainable "AAA" big budget release model.

Or...you know...some people just have different opinions. For example I will tell you deep dish pizza is awful and others will say it's great. This situation can also apply to Nintendo.

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It is general that things don't always seem perfect. But when you love about something and people tell things about it that aren't really true, then that's where the problem is and Nintendo is no exception.

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Action51

RancidVomit86 wrote:

Action51 wrote:

It's the internet age.

We now live in an age with instant gratification, instant need for news, and endless hype. We live in an age of bought and paid for journalism in a 24/7 realtime cycle. We have astroturf posters lurking on forums, we have video game journalists looking to carve a name for themselves by being contrarian, and we have an unsustainable "AAA" big budget release model.

Or...you know...some people just have different opinions. For example I will tell you deep dish pizza is awful and others will say it's great. This situation can also apply to Nintendo.

Okay, cool RancidVomit86. Although I think we can all admit we live in an age of a hype driven media, and so much is driven by bad news and taking "sides" and a desire to take someone down a peg or two. This isn't just in gaming, RancidVomit86, it's in sports, politics and celebrity pop culture too.

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SCRAPPER392

Who cares? The only aspects I can partially agree with, in terms of criticism, are:
1. This is the time they need better online
2. Account systems would be pretty beneficial for them, at this point
3. Release some of their other IPs

While I believe they are always improving, or at least trying to, alot of criticism is 100% unwarranted.
List of BS people complain about:
1. Hardware - you don't know s***, seriously
2. Account systems - I agree they should have a better account system, but prior to 3DS and Wii U, you're an idiot
3. Recycling IPs - Nintendo isn't the only company who does this, hence, you're an idiot
4. 3rd party - this isn't entirely up to Nintendo. Wii U can handle these new games. Go b**** at/about 3rd parties if you want them on Wii U, so bad
5. Iwata as CEO - none of our damn business. moving on...
6. Finances - Nintendo isn't going broke or struggling
7. Online play - things should improve, but in a time where Nintendo has the only free online, and Miiverse, there are positives to their online
8. Region locking - proven to be beneficial for the market, overall. Alot of those games people import from Japan, probably wouldn't have to be imported, if said company was able to lay down stable business foundation, via region locking
EDIT:
9. Kiddie/mini games - WTF was Fat Princess, Puppeteer, Tearaway, etc?
10. Complaints about 3D, touch screens, and motion controls - you're drunk, get out

I think it's fine to have some criticism, but when it's contradictory or nonsensical, it's annoying beyond words.

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MAB

It's a massive waste of time worrying about what MicroSony headed mofos say anyway

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Reala

SCAR392 wrote:

Who cares? The only aspects I can partially agree with, in terms of criticism, are:
1. This is the time they need better online
2. Account systems would be pretty beneficial for them, at this point
3. Release some of their other IPs

While I believe they are always improving, or at least trying to, alot of criticism is 100% unwarranted.
List of BS people complain about:
1. Hardware - you don't know s***, seriously
2. Account systems - I agree they should have a better account system, but prior to 3DS and Wii U, you're an idiot
3. Recycling IPs - Nintendo isn't the only company who does this, hence, you're an idiot
4. 3rd party - this isn't entirely up to Nintendo. Wii U can handle these new games. Go b**** at/about 3rd parties if you want them on Wii U, so bad
5. Iwata as CEO - none of our damn business. moving on...
6. Finances - Nintendo isn't going broke or struggling
7. Online play - things should improve, but in a time where Nintendo has the only free online, and Miiverse, there are positives to their online
8. Region locking - proven to be beneficial for the market, overall. Alot of those games people import from Japan, probably wouldn't have to be imported, if said company was able to lay down stable business foundation, via region locking
EDIT:
9. Kiddie/mini games - WTF was Fat Princess, Puppeteer, Tearaway, etc?
10. Complaints about 3D, touch screens, and motion controls - you're drunk, get out

I think it's fine to have some criticism, but when it's contradictory or nonsensical, it's annoying beyond words.

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Better to be an idiot and realise it than go on thinking your a know it all.

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RobbEJay

SCAR392 wrote:

8. Region locking - proven to be beneficial for the market, overall. Alot of those games people import from Japan, probably wouldn't have to be imported, if said

How exactly is region-locking "beneficial" to the market? None of the industry's problems are due to a lack of it, and the games that are missed certainly aren't affected by it, that comes down to cost of localization. Japanese games aren't the only ones that are imported either. I hope you don't plan to live in another country for any length of time, or you'll have to import everything if you don't want another console.

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LzWinky

Actually, there is some merit in region locking. Some stores in countries have no choice but to charge higher prices because of their inflated currency. They would struggle if gamers were allowed to import cheaper options.

It does, however, stop gamers from importing non-localized games.

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GuSolarFlare

region locking could really be something more, adaptable.
I don't mind region locking for a game I can buy in any place that sells games.
but it'd be nice if the region lock was lifted for games that definitely won't be localised.

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LzWinky

GuSilverFlame wrote:

region locking could really be something more, adaptable.
I don't mind region locking for a game I can buy in any place that sells games.
but it'd be nice if the region lock was lifted for games that definitely won't be localised.

The issue there is with publishers who are unsure about their games.

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DualWielding

Unca_Lz wrote:

GuSilverFlame wrote:

region locking could really be something more, adaptable.
I don't mind region locking for a game I can buy in any place that sells games.
but it'd be nice if the region lock was lifted for games that definitely won't be localised.

The issue there is with publishers who are unsure about their games.

The issue is not with publishers, is with Nintendo wanted to have good relationship with retailers by protecting them from competition from cheaper imports and access to cheaper digital games options...... but as far as i can see retailers, at least here in Australia, are not giving anything in return to Nintendo (at least not in relation to the Wii U, 3DS does get decent shelf space), why should Nintendo screw customers to protect these retailers if the retailers have clearly not abandoned Sony or Microsoft or retaliated against them in any way for going region free

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