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Artwark

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I know a lot of threads might have been similar to this one but really.....I don't know if a lot of people (including members from Nintendolife) are respecting whatever Nintendo tries to do. They are criticized for focusing on kiddie games which is really not true. They make games that people think are being milked countless times which is a general thing for any company.

Seriously why all the hate on Nintendo?????

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They went from being the most successful last gen to being least successful this gen (in the home console business). They're an easy target.

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For me, they're ignoring many of their longtime fans in pursuit of that non gamer crowd that the Wii brought in. Games like F-Zero, Metroid and Star Fox are low priority because that audience won't buy them, and in their place we have all these mini/party game collections and fitness software.

There are still amazing games aimed at the traditional crowd such as Fire Emblem, but for every game like that, there's 2 or 3 'non-games'.

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It's simple really the current generation of gamers are mostly the PS and Xbox Gen. They weren't around during Nintendo's glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. By the time they were old enough to game Nintendo was the red headed step child of the video game industry.

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It's simple really the current generation of gamers are mostly the PS and Xbox Gen. They weren't around during Nintendo's glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. By the time they were old enough to game Nintendo was the red headed step child of the video game industry.

Pretty much this, unfortunate as it is considering Nintendo still makes some of the best games in the industry.

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Artwark wrote:

They are criticized for focusing on kiddie games which is really not true. They make games that people think are being milked countless times which is a general thing for any company.

There is some truth to it. It's not really so much the proliferation of child-friendly titles as is the major absence of more mature titles. I also agree with everything that @Peach64 said above. Nintendo doubled down on their family-friendly aspect during the Wii generation and it's still biting their less casual playerbase in the butt to this day.

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Why should Nintendo stop making games that are clearly profitable for them. It's like asking Activision to stop making call of duty.
Besides, there needs to be games at either end of the spectrum to cater for every audience. If Nintendo starts catering towards an older crowd, who else is going to make the kids games?

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Far too much Mario and one too many platforming games and not enough love for their other series that brought Nintendo to where they are today.

... as much as I like Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, New Super Mario Bros. U and New Super Luigi U, four platformers in a year or so is an overkill. They could have done F-Zero, Metroid, Starfox or Pilotwings instead!

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How do you want people to show respect to a company? And why? - simply just curious

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dizzy_boy wrote:

Why should Nintendo stop making games that are clearly profitable for them. It's like asking Activision to stop making call of duty.
Besides, there needs to be games at either end of the spectrum to cater for every audience. If Nintendo starts catering towards an older crowd, who else is going to make the kids games?

Except , the lack of balance is the problem. Look at the Gamecube, off the top of my head we had two Starfoxes, two metroids, Fire Emblem, F-zero, Custom Robo, Geist, and Eternal Darkness. Thats 9 games right there without even counting the perennial favorite Legend of Zelda, and you could probably toss the first Pikmin in as well. Thats in addition to their other perennial favorites and even Pokemon kicked things up a notch.

With the Wii we had Fire Emblem, Metroid Prime 3 and the Prime trilogy, Other M, Sin and Punishment, and Zenoblade. Thats 6 counting the trilogy and again not counting Zelda. Everything else was a Wii-series game and their usual big sellers. Heck Pokemon had not one, but TWO mini-game compilations in addition to Battle Revolution. The Wii-series by itself has 5 games unless I'm missing something.

Its not like those games can't be profitable either, they might not be as well known as Mario, but then very few share his popularity. Most of the games Nintendo made for the Wii were ones that would attract as wide an audience as possible, they essentially took their "blue ocean" strategy to a whole new level and all but ignored anything that didn't offer mass appeal. They've been doing that with the Wii U too, throwing out as many mass-appeal games as possible hoping to strike oil.

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I don't think criticism is disrespect. If you think it is then life must be really hard for you.

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Artwark wrote:

I don't know if a lot of people (including members from Nintendolife) are respecting whatever Nintendo tries to do.

I don't know if you phrased that as you wanted to, but it comes across like you expect everyone here to agree with whatever decision Nintendo makes. Unbiased intelligent consumers never just agree to something 'because it's Nintendo'. I've played Nintendo games since I was young, and for the first couple of years of my life they're the only gaming company I knew, but that doesn't mean that I don't criticise them when they make a mistake. Nintendo have made a lot of mistakes recently, and as such they get called out on it.

If however that's not what you meant; the opposite is also true. There are people out there who will hate Nintendo and what they do simply because their games aren't for them or because they never bother to try them. All that really matters in the end is what you think about them, and what decisions you make as a consumer based on that.

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Dreamz wrote:

Artwark wrote:

They are criticized for focusing on kiddie games which is really not true. They make games that people think are being milked countless times which is a general thing for any company.

There is some truth to it. It's not really so much the proliferation of child-friendly titles as is the major absence of more mature titles. I also agree with everything that @Peach64 said above. Nintendo doubled down on their family-friendly aspect during the Wii generation and it's still biting their less casual playerbase in the butt to this day.

What about Smash and Mario Kart? Also what about Pokemon?

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Tasuki wrote:

It's simple really the current generation of gamers are mostly the PS and Xbox Gen. They weren't around during Nintendo's glory days of the 8 and 16 bit era. By the time they were old enough to game Nintendo was the red headed step child of the video game industry.

partially this
but the fact many people(especially on the internet) don't respect anything at all nowadays also doesn't help.

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Artwark wrote:

Dreamz wrote:

Artwark wrote:

They are criticized for focusing on kiddie games which is really not true. They make games that people think are being milked countless times which is a general thing for any company.

There is some truth to it. It's not really so much the proliferation of child-friendly titles as is the major absence of more mature titles. I also agree with everything that @Peach64 said above. Nintendo doubled down on their family-friendly aspect during the Wii generation and it's still biting their less casual playerbase in the butt to this day.

What about Smash and Mario Kart? Also what about Pokemon?

What about them?

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Dreamz wrote:

Artwark wrote:

Dreamz wrote:

Artwark wrote:

They are criticized for focusing on kiddie games which is really not true. They make games that people think are being milked countless times which is a general thing for any company.

There is some truth to it. It's not really so much the proliferation of child-friendly titles as is the major absence of more mature titles. I also agree with everything that @Peach64 said above. Nintendo doubled down on their family-friendly aspect during the Wii generation and it's still biting their less casual playerbase in the butt to this day.

What about Smash and Mario Kart? Also what about Pokemon?

What about them?

yeah, what about them? I may love these games but I admit they are definitely kiddy and overly milked.

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I don't know as to whether the kiddy image is only for Nintendo because games like the original Rayman look kiddy but are not.

Seriously the hardcore audience is lower than that of the casual. So you'll say that Donkey Kong Country series isn't hardcore because it looks kiddy despite its extreme difficulty?

People seriously need to carefully look at the game's quality rather than the game's image.

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Ignore them, alot of the same people that call Nintendo kiddy play Flappy Bird and Candy Crush.

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Peach64 wrote:

For me, they're ignoring many of their longtime fans in pursuit of that non gamer crowd that the Wii brought in. Games like F-Zero, Metroid and Star Fox are low priority because that audience won't buy them, and in their place we have all these mini/party game collections and fitness software.

There are still amazing games aimed at the traditional crowd such as Fire Emblem, but for every game like that, there's 2 or 3 'non-games'.

While I can agree that they haven't made an F-Zero game for a long time, they have atleast made Star Fox and a Metroid game and Retro Studio is probably going to make another Metroid game anytime soon.

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Ignore them, alot of the same people that call Nintendo kiddy play Flappy Bird and Candy Crush.

no kidding, but it doesn't make the kiddy games less kiddy and being kiddy doesn't make them bad(sometimes it's actually the oposite being kiddy makes them better for avoiding immature teens that only play M rated games and keep shouting cursings in all online modes with voicechat)

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