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Kodeen

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So in the Tomb Raider exclusivity thread, a lot of people are generally praising the idea of exclusives because it differentiates the consoles. My question is, why is that good?

Competing formats don't survive in basically any other entertainment medium. Instead, what we usually have is a standard created by a body of companies that everyone adheres to, like Blu-Ray. That way, you can buy a Blu-Ray player made by any company, and any movie off the shelf that conforms to the standard will work on it. Movie producers only have to produce one on-disc product. And games are even more complicated to support different formats.

So the thinking would be that companies like Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, even companies like AMD and Dolby, etc... would create a standard gaming platform and devs would only have to create one version of their game. All patent holders in the platform get a cut of the "platform holder's share". As technology demands, the platform would be refreshed every few years (like DVD -> Blu-Ray). Let's face it, in terms of hardware no one is really bringing anything interesting to the table anyway (before you get up in arms about the Gampad, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about rams and gigs and junk.). We've reached a point of diminishing returns in terms of more powerful hardware, so it's not like taking away a single companies ability to have a better system because of more rams is hurting anymore.

The only downside I can think of would be that new innovations (such as the Gamepad) would either have to be implemented by committee or be an accessory. In terms of the Gamepad specifically, I'm not convinced that would be a bad idea. If the unified platform was at about 20 million sales currently, and only a quarter of console owners bought the Gamepad accessory, that's still where we would be now.

Any other downsides I'm not thinking of?

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Morpheel

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If all the consoles had the exact same games, there wouldn't be a need for more than one console.

Companies like money. Companies dislike sharing money with other companies. Companies are benefited from having competitors.

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I would quite like one if it was like the pioneer thing they tried that you just added boards for different systems.

(I wish there was a Panasonic Wii U not really bothered about any extra cost but I would like an optical out and nicer build quality).

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Morphbug wrote:

If all the consoles had the exact same games, there wouldn't be a need for more than one console.

Yes, that is the goal.

Morphbug wrote:

Companies like money. Companies dislike sharing money with other companies. Companies are benefited from having competitors.

How do you explain the Blu-Ray model?

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midnafanboy

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If systems don't have exclusives then what's the point?That's like saying if mario kart 8 is for the PS4 and Xbox one what's the point of buying a wiiu, and if the last of us is for every system then what's the point of buying a PS4? Systems need exclusives to make people buy that one system, so they can play that game that can only be played in that platform,just like nintendo and the wiiu if the system did not have it's exclusives then the wiiu will be finished. In the end all i'm saying companies won't be benefited, especially nintendo cause that's all they have it's their exclusives.

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Is not as simple as creating a "single standard for videogames" since videogames are not plain files, they are programs. They depend of a OS to work, unlike DVD and media players which only depend on codecs to play files, thus making the manufacturing process easy and cheap.

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the thing is that the advantage of console is their lack of hardware fragmentation, you can optimize a game for Wii U, PS4, or Xbone because you are only dealing with one hardware configuration thats why consoles can outperform PCs 2 or 3 times their power.... if it was a unified format like blu-ray or dvd where any manufacture can make a console each console would have different specs and then consoles will be nothing more than underpowered PCs...... If there was only one console, even if multiple manufacturers where allowed to make them as long as they were all clones of each other the company who controlled the standards and the O.S. would be a monopoly and that would suck for gamers.... Back when Nintendo had a Monopoly in the 80s it was bad for everybody but Nintendo

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Video games is a weird medium with its formats, but I don't think that's a bad thing. While formats don't exist in other mediums, there is still a lot of competition among companies.

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Kodeen wrote:

Morphbug wrote:

If all the consoles had the exact same games, there wouldn't be a need for more than one console.

Yes, that is the goal.

Morphbug wrote:

Companies like money. Companies dislike sharing money with other companies. Companies are benefited from having competitors.

How do you explain the Blu-Ray model?

Blu-ray actually had competition (HD DVD). However, HD DVD failed in the market and now Blu ray is even bigger

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Your biggest reason is also your biggest flaw. You can't compare consoles to DVD or Blu-Ray players, that's apples to oranges. The only logical comparison is consoles to PCs. Give me a reason to unify all PCs and you've got a solid reason to unify consoles.

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Competition only benefits us as consumers. Makes companies want to offer better products and try to sell them at a lower price. It's basic economics.

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The problem with having only one console on the market is that there's no competition, and that eliminates the need to innovate. Competition is a good thing, it encourages companies to bring their A game and produce the best possible product to persuade consumers to buy from them. If there wasn't any pressure from competition, all we'd see would be rehashes.

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Yeah, even computers have competing formats, so that's the real comparison

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RancidVomit86 wrote:

Competition only benefits us as consumers. Makes companies want to offer better products and try to sell them at a lower price. It's basic economics.

At the same time, the model is different because consumers can also benefit (and pay more as a downside) from owning multiple formats, whereas other mediums tend to lean towards one purchase. It's complicated :O

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Morpheel

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Other companies using Sony's BluRay technology is not an example of this (though I don't know if other gaming systems do use it!). You may as well use the other components in every console as examples: I doubt Nintendo made those screws that hold the WiiU together themselves!

Console "communism" would only make video games a monopoly, and the four or so companies joining forces to create it would end up fighting each other for the largest slice of the money cake or digesting each other.

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If I'm not mistaken, a few parts in Nintendo systems were made by Sony and/or its subsidiaries

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WaLzgi wrote:

If I'm not mistaken, a few parts in Nintendo systems were made by Sony and/or its subsidiaries

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Sony is a major electronics company. Same for even Philips. Major companies like these actually work together while at the same time competing. It's very bizzare

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well yeah, they can't fancy losing customers as big as these just because they happen to sell some of the same stuff.

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It's not a hard comcept to grasp really. Brother works with each other but at the same time compete with each other through sibling rivalry. Competition drives this world, it's human nature. Unless all of us got turned into peace making hippies.

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