Topic: Western (C)RPGs?

That's why I intend on getting the Xbox version. Actually, minus a few exceptions, if there's a console version of a particular game, that's probably the one I'll get. 'course, right now I can't get anymore console games, so I'm just looking for PC only games.

Haha...no.

Anybody know anything about the Ultima Series, the Wizardry series, or the Might and Magic series?

What, you have an aversion to a better game than the best CRPGs?

And yes, the Wizardry series is great if you're into old school dungeon crawlers.

Nope, I just don't like Dungeons & Dragons.

And I should certainly hope Wizardry is good, I just got the whole series.

Then you should stick to JRPGs and Wizardry. WRPGs typically try to emulate Pen and Paper RPGs, so finding one you like will be difficult.

Why don't you like D & D?

I don't like having to make my own characters and stories, nor my own dungeons. In a video game, most of that stuff is done for you.

And I honestly, as far as I'm concerned, it's an overdone board game, and I can't stand board games.>_<

Yes.

Guild Wars is awesome. My wife and I play together and it's always a blast. I've also gotten a co-worker sucked into it recently. There are three different campaigns: Prophecies, Nightfall, and Factions. Prophecies is the "slowest" and easiest of the three because it is the first that NCSoft created and it's got a lot of tutorial type things. In other words, it's perfect for the person who is a newcomer to the series. Factions is the most difficult as you pretty much jump right into the thick of things. There is also one expansion called: Eye of the North. I believe the three core campaigns are now available as a boxed set for around 40 or 50 bucks. GREAT value for the amount of time you'll be investing in this game. There are 10-day/10hour free trial codes available, but the game is FAR greater than the trial would lend you to believe.

If you like the D&D-based games, then consider Baldur's Gate (as has been mentioned), Planescape, the Icewind Dale games, and (if you REALLY wanna get old-school) the SSI-based D&D games and Bard's Tale. Again, if you're going old-school, and has already been suggested, give the Ultima, Wizardry, and Might and Magic series a try. They're kind of hit-or-miss so if one particular sequel in the series turns you off, try another (newer) one.

Diablo2 will completely suck the soul right out of you. The single-player (in both D1 and D2) is pretty groovy, but D2 really shines in multiplayer, especially if you'd consider PvP. I low level duel (or did before I kicked the "habit") and it encompassed almost ALL of my free time.

Neverwinter Nights: While I don't have any experience with NWN2, the first is just plain awesome. The single-player story line is great, the character customization is pretty nice too. Lots of NPC/Henchmen, quests, etc. What makes it even greater were the community expansion packs (CEP's). They provide for additional NPC's, quests, equipment, graphics, etc. Also, back when I played, the persistant worlds that other people had created using the NWN-tools were also nice. You could actually join a world/campaign where the creator(s) could actually play an active part in the world by way of the Dunegon Master (DM). They could take the roll of npc's and modify the entire world on-the-fly. This would provide for some pretty awesome role-playing. NWN1 has been out for a while though, so I'm really not sure how active everything still is. The word on the street, however is that NWN1 > NWN2.

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@Magi

That's quite the impressive rant you got there - just what this thread needs! Thanks, man. And that's the first time I'd heard anybody mention Icewind Dale or Bard's Tale. For some reason I thought they were Point & Click Adventure games. I'll make sure to look into them.

If you tried and liked Freedom Force, it is on sale this weekend for $2/€2/£2.
Edit: On Steam.

It isn't the game, it is Steam. I have had the same problem, and I checked the Steam forums and many others have had the same problem. From what I've heard, the disc version doesn't have that problem.

I just checked Bioware forums and they are also full of problems.
I also found this:
7. I don't have a 3d card. Where can I download one for free?

Solution: laughs for ten minutes

He later confirmed that someone actually asked him that question.

Bought it immediately. X-COM Complete Pack is also on sale. If there are any fans of strategy games here, I suggest you pick it up. It's easily worth $20, let alone $2.

I know it's based on a license, but I would reccomend Star Wars:Knights of the Old Republic. It is such a masterpiece that you will forget it is a licensed game! I have the Xbox version, and it works great for the most part. I might put it into my Xbox 360 and give it another go, I was SO CLOSE to finishing KOTOR! Does anyone know if KOTOR2 is better or worse than KOTOR1?

I've heard that KOTOR2 is good at the start, but then it goes downhill and ends up feeling very unfinished.

Yeah, KOTOR II was rushed and it shows about halfway through. Not bad, but not as good as the original.

True that on KotOR II. As you play through it becomes very, very apparent that the game was rushed out the door. I haven't been able to get through another full playthrough of it despite being a huge Star Wars fan, while i've played through the first game probably half a dozen times.