Forums

Topic: The PlayStation 4 fan thread.

Posts 5,421 to 5,440 of 6,254

AlexSays

What a huge disappointment.. I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of changes to the development team after this.

Was looking forward to playing some Mass Effect now that I'm finally home after a lengthy business trip but looks like I'm sticking to Zelda for the time being.

AlexSays

NEStalgia

@Ralizah I used to think that EA didn't support Nintendo consoles much because they didn't see market opportunity there based on past results, and because they had too many cozy paid-off deals with Sony and Microsoft and Nintendo won't pay to play.

Now I realize it's actually just the Seal of Quality program. EA just doesn't qualify often and gets sent home along with Meme Run

Well, now that they've annihilated one of the few 3rd party AAA franchises I actually loved and looked forward to, it makes my decision a little easier about which PS4 game to play next: Horizon or P5 it is!

@Peek-a-boo You have to hear the Chicken Dance in your head as you watch that GIF looping.....it's so much funnier!

NEStalgia

Dezzy

Well I guess sci-fi fans will have to hope on Cyberpunk 2077 picks up the flag instead.

Still, it's the best month for a long time to have a big AAA fail. Given that I also want to play Zelda, Horizon, Nier Automata, Dark Souls 3 DLC, Kingdom Hearts collection, I'll probabl manage just fine.

Kingdom Hearts especially is great for me because I only played the first game to the end. Only got half way through 2 and haven't played Birth By Sleep. So incredibly good value for money.

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

Ralizah

@NEStalgia P5 is the only option. It's Sony's killer app at this point (for me).

Edited on by Ralizah

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

NEStalgia

@Ralizah Hasn't it always been? We certainly don't buy these things for COD and Soldier Tank Battle Shooter 28!

NEStalgia

Dezzy

Peek-a-boo wrote:

@Dezzy You could say that it is time to abandon ship?

Untitled

I was trying to figure out what the hell that actually is.

I think it's just the animation for running down stairs that's failed to switch to the regular running animation.

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

Ralizah

@NEStalgia Last gen felt like a long nightmare for the video game world. Countless numbers of grizzled, violent white dudes murdering their way through hordes of foreigners/aliens/mutants/Nazis/etc on PS360 platforms, while Nintendo was busily working to make actually enjoying their games as difficult as humanly possible (why press a button to use an attack when you can wave a remote around in front of you like an idiot instead?)

Things are a good deal better now on the Playstation front, what with the apparent revival of big, ambitious Japanese console games. Even Sony's biggest contribution to the violent white dude" trend, Nathan Drake, eventually attained some level of self-awareness about the implications and destructive side-effects of his festive murder sprees in Uncharted 4.

And, of course, if the Wii generation was all about making games as hard to get into as possible, the Switch generation seems like the opposite: enjoying your games is easier than ever now that you can seamlessly transition between TV and handheld play. Although I'm mixed on the stealth return of Wii Motion Plus. We'll see: if they're limited to games like World of Goo that can't reasonably be played on the TV in any other way, then they just help to further increase the system's range of flexibility.

Edited on by Ralizah

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

NintenerdCentral

I'm confused. This is Nintendolife, and not Push square right?

Signed by the one and only Nintenerd guy. Hype is real for Pokemon Ultra!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus is Lord.
Follow me on the account of YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCySCtUppltv_WhFobC0Rq8w

Ralizah

Dezzy wrote:

Well I guess sci-fi fans will have to hope on Cyberpunk 2077 picks up the flag instead.

cough

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

Dezzy

@Ralizah

Yeah that does look good. And glad to have another Vita game. Doubt it'll be as epic scale as Cyberpunk though. They've said it's significantly bigger than the Witcher 3.

@jayzzx

It's the PS4 thread. What's confusing?

Edited on by Dezzy

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

Octane

@Ralizah I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks last gen was a bit of a mixed bag. There were great games indeed, but I much prefer this gen, or the generations before the Wii/PS3/360 era.

Octane

Ralizah

@Dezzy Cyberpunk 2077 sounds really cool. It'll probably be the first AAA cyberpunk RPG we've ever had, right? I can't think of any other. Certain, much older games, along with indie RPGs like Shadowrun.

@Octane I mean, last gen had a handful of gems. Super Mario Galaxy is one of my all-time favorite Nintendo games, the 360 had some instant classics with Viva Pinata, Alan Wake, and Lost Odyssey, and the PS3 had some decent games I'd have loved to play, like Metal Gear Solid 4 and Ni no Kuni. In general, though? Yeah, the seventh gen was awful.

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

Gamer83

@AlexSays
There's already been a lot of changes at Bioware since EA bought the studio and that's exactly the problem. Wish it'd buy its independence back and try to get some former members of the staff to return. People can say what they want about MS, when Bioware was making games with MS as the publisher, the quality was much higher.

Edited on by Gamer83

Gamer83

Dezzy

Ralizah wrote:

@Dezzy Cyberpunk 2077 sounds really cool. It'll probably be the first AAA cyberpunk RPG we've ever had, right? I can't think of any other. Certain, much older games, along with indie RPGs like Shadowrun.

I'd say Mass Effect 2 is fairly cyberpunkish.
And some people would say Final Fantasy 7 is. Although that's more of a mixed bag. Midgar though.

Converted from Sony to Nintendo during 7th gen and never looked back.

Peek-a-boo

Untitled

The Gravity Rush 2 side story called 'The Ark of Time: Raven's Choice' is out now! Even better, it's FREE.

Peek-a-boo

Ralizah

@Dezzy ME2 is a space opera. All the ME games are. ME2 definitely feels a bit grittier, though.

I would say during the Midgar portion of the game, FFVII feels like dieselpunk, but turns more into a science fantasy epic as it goes along. The first several hours of the game definitely nail that "high tech, low life" feel of the genre, though. And this is just reminding me what an insanely cool game FFVII was. What other games combine motorcycle chases, cloning, ancient prophecies, dragons, evil megacorporations, and theme parks?

Right now, indie games are keeping cyberpunk games alive. I'm in the middle of VA-11 Hall-A, a game where you play as a bartender in a classically cyberpunk setting and kind of get a front-row seat to the issues, social organization, etc. in such an environment.

@Peek-a-boo Perfect! I needed an excuse to turn my PS4 back on.

Edited on by Ralizah

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

Peek-a-boo

Ralizah wrote:

What other games combine motorcycle chases, cloning, ancient prophecies, dragons, evil mega corporations and theme parks?

@Ralizah You forgot that cross-dressing part at the Wall Market where Don Corneo chose to bring Cloud (who was wearing a 'satin dress' and a 'blonde wig') into his bedroom if you were wearing all the right items!

Man, Final Fantasy VII had it all. It's still my favourite game of all time.

Peek-a-boo

NEStalgia

@Ralizah 7th gen was certainly a bore. I'd taken a long hiatus from consoles and gone PC only during what I'd consider the "golden age of PC games". I saw, during that time, a lot of shift towards the "brown shooter". In the beginning there was Doom and Quake.....and then it was Quake and Unreal and unreal added color and adventure and fantasy and was great. And then after that it became the online arena shooters.....and the began the era of war-simulation shooters. Sometime around the launch of the original XBox PC gaming got dragged into this pool of same-ness. It was clear Microsoft was intentionally funding things in the industry to align windows games and XBox games under the DirectX banner, and forcing a general sameness. By the time we got to the X360 (leading 7th gen) on the console side it borrowed all the bad, sameish, factory-produced games from the same handfuls of studios, and ignored the flashes of brilliance that had come in PC before it (all the RTS's, RPGs, random-weird-genre games and stuck with the factory-produced formula. It was MS that created that wasteland for gaming, and Sony had originally gone as different (and arrogant) as different (and arrogant) can get with the overpriced PS3, that was to be fair going to be a true console versus Windows-Lite on X360, but since they lost so much market share in that disastrous launch window, they had no choice but to follow along the MS route. Nintendo was just off swatting flies and flailing around They thought it was cool. I didn't even play past the Twilight Princess water temple until the WiiU version with real controls.

I didn't mind Nathan Drake though. I don't lump him in with the gritty brown-grey soldier genre. He was a nod to Indiana Jones from the very start, massive death pile or not, it was old-school action-flick fare, not the modern gritty games. It could have done without the zombies in the first one though. Sony and especially Naughty Dog has a serious obsession with zombies, and Naughty Dog's staff might want to seek counseling for that... I'm glad they eventually learned to keep their zombie games a separate thing.

But yeah, when I think 7th gen, it's war-sim, guerilla gritty soldier, aliens/mutants vs. soldiers, horror/zombie/blood-splatter games, pretty much universally. And waggling of course. Some soldier games are fine. That was a bit much.

@Gamer83 Bioware, like Rare, is no longer a company. They can call it Bioware all they want, but it's just an EA internal studio using the name they bought from Bioware. Anyone that gave it a soul is long gone. Not sure what happened with management in the last 2 games, the founders became different people which makes me think they were NEVER the real heart of the company. But the best we can hope is the old staff uniting under a new company rather than ever hoping to get "Bioware" back. The last "real" Bioware game was DA:O and that was partially already developed before the EA buyout.

@Ralizah ME2 was the only one with a good story, 1 had better character moments (but the story was "we're doing KotR without an SW license, eat that Lucas!" 2 had (by far) the worst gameplay though. The story in 3 went off the rails completely half way through.

I like FFVII but so much of it, like Ocarina is rose tinted glasses. The story/characters were second to none, but the gameplay had serious issues and dragged on badly. And the whole Aerith thing, though structurally and culturally amazing, was a gigantic, humongous, unforgivable gameplay flaw. Personally, FFIX forever, Kupo!

NEStalgia

Ralizah

@NEStalgia Uncharted 4 was the only game in the series without completely hokey supernatural elements (zombie-vampire things, lost cities filled with weird Kratos wannabees) in the ending. Fantastic game overall, even if I'm not a fan of modern Naughty Dog in general.

I really liked the story in ME1. I mean, yes, it was clearly Star Wars without the branding, but I loved the way it transitioned from a general space opera feel to something almost Lovecraftian in nature when the reapers are revealed. ME2, even from the start, tried way too hard to be edgy and intense, and I couldn't really get into it.

What serious issues did FFVII have? Obviously it is dated in certain respects, but I think the core game still holds up extremely well. The materia system is STILL surprisingly robust. Fantastic characters. Interesting (if occasionally incoherent) storyline. One of the best OSTs in a series filled with fantastic music. The gated open world approach was incredibly well-done, as it directed game progression through the early hours while not making you feel like the gaming is artificially limiting your options.

The thing with Ocarina is that various Zelda games since have improved on it in almost ever way, while subsequent JRPGs have struggled to match the combination of memorable characters, solid battle mechanics, epic scope, and a huge production budget that made FFVII what it was.

@Peek-a-boo Although I love my Atlus games, I do feel like, in a sense, JRPGs peaked with FFVII. It was one of those rare moments in gaming when everything came together beautifully. In a very real sense, it was the first blockbuster RPG. The audacious advertising for the game in the U.S. helped seal the deal, in that regard. Check out one of these commercials for the game (and boy, it's shocking how willing they are to spoil HUGE story beats!):

Edited on by Ralizah

Switch FC: SW-2726-5961-1794
Currently playing: Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Vita)

Nintendo Network ID: Michael418

Top

Please login or sign up to reply to this topic