I'm actually glad that both Square-Enix and Capcom presented products at this meeting. It means that two of my most despised publishers will be focusing on bringing their crap to the PS4 and not platforms that I'm actually interested in

I just want everyone to remember that Square Enix basically showed old footage and then said "get excited for E3!" and left.

Sigh

What am I fanboy of this time. Sony? Apple? Microsoft?

if all your doing which i pretty much do is moving the wrist laying down or whatever then i dont see the claim to it being realistic, it makes sense to certain genres like arcade shooters etc etc

in this case i rather just use the controller instead of the wiimote if im just going to treat the wiimote like a controller in the first place, a few neat gameplay features to make you think your holding a gun doesnt enhance the experince for me

so your half wrong saying most would never go back to regular controller gaming

lol oh boy your going to be disappointed then

Holy crap at the double standard.

Nintendo doesn't show off the Wii U console until about a month before launch and even though its ugly as sin its cool because you know the gamepad.

Sony does the exact same thing and will probably have been hardware dragon and they get complained about.

All that happened here was that it was shown Nintendo being consertive doesn't really pay off anymore.

Hahaha, Sony said "Our vision is to create the first social gaming network with meaning," which is pretty much a direct slam to Nintendo. XD

All in all I think the console and features looked impressive, but the games were a whole other story. Some of the social and cloud features sounded quite nice but the games looked like the same old forgettable junk. Yeah, they looked great, but aside from that there wasn't any real innovation in the gameplay.

I'm just curious for the people complaining about more of the same and then saying they look forward to the next Xbox more, what exactly are you expecting that isn't more of the same from them?

I'll give you some advice that people never forget to tell us Nintendo fans. People have different opinions than you. Don't get so rustled about them. I personally thought that the Wii U looked very nice at launch. I thought the PS4 had a nice coat of paint, but I wasn't too partial to the controller and games. Other people may have felt the same. Again, these are opinions and can't be considered facts, so no need to get worked up either way.

Oh, and we won't know if it was bad of Nintendo to play it safe until the PS4 price is announced and we see more games.

I'd say a more stable online, graphics, and gameplay. The PS4 looks better than anything out right now. I get that. The problem is, is the creativity at Sony is lacking, which is why you're seeing more of the same ol' games with better graphics. This is the same feeling I had with Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, etc. sequel games. They add no truly new elements of play to the games. Dead Space 1 was cool, I didn't like AC at all, and Bioshock 2 was s*** compared to the first one. Same w/ Uncharted IMO. The first one was cool, but after that it was downhill.
The gameplay is more of the same of what we've been seeing for years, EVEN WITH BETTER TECH.
Nintendo's going to be able to do better without as good of technology, and Xbox is just going to have better hardware, PERIOD.
This system looks like a Nintendo/Microsoft hyrbrid clone on every horrible drug not recommended by anyone. It even has the Wii U logo as it's Ustream logo, along with a blue instead of green Xbox menu.
If you guys like it fine, but that my honest opinion about it.

Dear Gog this thread is painful to read through.

Anyways, Is this a bad thing? I assume it's a bad thing.

@Bankai
You know, I'm very interested in the PS4, but every time you say "Social Innovations!" I feel... unsure.

I... tolerate Miiverse because it's a contained thing, and it's more of a feature, but in the PS4... it's a focus? Maybe I'm not grasping this entirely, I wasn't able to watch the stream, I had to read up on the stuff during it.

I think it is. I'm definitely not getting one now. I understand why you guys hate digital now. PS messed up digital to the core. Looks like account sharing was a bad idea. You guys are pissed about Wii U emulating Wii, PS3 basically emulated everything not on disc. The only component in PS3 that did anything was the memory and laser. I wasted my money on PS3 stuff. Crap.

Ok, so just rewatched the trailer for inFamous second sons and saw it without the incredible choppiness of the web steam and now I'm hyped. It was so awesome.

I didn't own a PS3, but I loved what I played of inFamous. If Sony manages to convince me to go with the PS4 for my second console, this is a definite buy.

We get it man you don't like Sony and are a big minute do fanboy.

Also can you calm down about trying to defend Wii U's crappy account system. You do realize that Sony is working on Backwards compatibility through Gaikai and you would be able to stream past PSN purchases right.

Also there is a huge difference in not being able to transfer content between WiiU's and going from too completely different hardware set ups.(cell to X86)

I'm personally disappointed that there won't be any native BC for PSN content but I expected with all of the rumors about the move from cell.

Love the the new marketing campaign that Sony showed yesterday.

I'm interested in seeing what the PS4 can do... not gonna get one because 0 of the games interested me, but it looks like this has already started being OMG PS4 IS SO AWESOME WII U SUCKS!!1!11!

@Sony_70
I like Sony's TVs and A/V products. My Sony receiver has my Wii U and PS3 hooked up right now.
This confirms me keeping my Wii U and getting an Xbox later. Even Xbox 360 didn't have account sharing, and now I see why.
PS is basically like holding the server in your hands, but not having the hardware to use it.
I'm just glad I only have to get 2 consoles instead of 3, saving me a $1000 right off the bat.

nice but to be honest the youtube, facebook stuff didnt do anything for me. I dont get the whole social aspect of this and the last generation

The things I do like are the same things I like about PS3, PS+ and some of the Sony exclusives but would be hard pressed to spend another 700+ dollars (system/controllers/games) based on what they showed last nite.

Yeah... I really don't get the whole FaceBook thing. Forums, MiiVerse, Email, and occasionally chatboxes is the farthest I'll go with Social Networking. And the thing about MiiVerse is, it doesn't overlap on gameplay, so when I'm playing a game I'm play a game, not "playing" on a social network.