Topic: The PlayStation Fan Thread

@Zeldafan79 Probably the same in all PS5 models: 850GB.

@Octane
Yeah and how large are PS5 games said to be? Good luck with that! Everytime you buy a new game you'll have to uninstall another.

@Zeldafan79 Probably, yes. Fortunately install times should be almost non-existent. I just hope the system has a way of dealing with it. Keep the most recent games installed, but delete the oldest game when you put in another disc and it needs to make space for example. And if installing only takes mere seconds, this shouldn't be an issue.

Well the PS5 presentation was better than I was expecting. I like the design of the console. And since I'm not a collector of disc-based games, I'll be opting for the digital edition. My assumption is that the two SKU will be priced the same, only the digital edition will be packed with a memory expansion; 850GB of on-board storage isn't much to work with.

I thought they did a great job of revealing the console, personally. I think games like Ratchet and Clank and Spider Man may get our house a Ps5 sooner rather than later. The design is really unique, too. I hand it to them, usually those kinds of funky designs are only seen in fan made mock ups of what they think a futuristic console might look like. Never thought they'd actually make a real one lol. Though when they eventually make a Pro version again, I hope it's something more traditionally sleek looking. But that's a very minor thing anyway for me

So this is pretty cool; apparently the studio behind this game, Ember Lab, also made that one famous Majora's Mask video:

So after all that praise Sony got for their stance on reselling/sharing games with the PS4, which forced Microsoft to completely backtrack on their approach, they're basically going down the same route now anyway. The only difference is they're going to push people down the digital route with financial incentives, rather than just immediately forcing them.

We can basically guarantee that the digital version will be a LOT cheaper, because they're going to bundle-in the anticipated profit increases they'll have from cutting out retail stores and printing physical copies.

I'm guessing the PS6 will end up being all-digital. That's mostly a negative from my point of view. Without the ability to resell used games, I would buy far fewer full price AAA releases. The number of games that are $60 that I know I'll want to play multiple times (and therefore want to own permanently) is incredibly small.
Without that replay value, you're left with asking yourself if a single playthrough of a game is worth $60? Very rarely is it.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/spider-man-miles-mor...

Announced during Sony’s PS5 reveal event on Thursday, Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales was described as “a new adventure from Insomniac Games,” with little further detail offered.

However, in a new interview, The Telegraph describes Morales as “more akin to an expansion bolted on to an upgraded version of the original title.”

Sony Interactive Entertainment’s EVP head of European Business, Simon Rutter told the publication that Miles Morales would include “major enhancements” to the 2018 PS4 game.

“I guess you could call it an expansion and an enhancement to the previous game,” he said.

“There’s a substantial Miles Morales component – which is the expansion element – but also within the game as well there’s been major enhancements to the game and the game engine, obviously deploying some of the major PlayStation 5 technology and features.”

Holy crap, it's not even a new game! It's an upgraded remaster of the PS4 game. Seems pretty sleazy for Sony to market this the way they did.

Also, TLOU Part II reviews are up:

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/the-last-of-us-...

While the score looks really high, look how negative a lot of those "unscored and in progress" reviews are. Ones from big outlets, no less.

TIME: While the violence of the first game served a compelling moral tale, the over-the-top bloodshed of Part II is all in service of a rather clichéd and tiresome lesson about the endless cycle of revenge. The banter that elevated the first game above mere dystopian fantasy is gone too, as Ellie often navigates this ultra-violent world on her own. It makes for a lonely, depressing experience at a moment when many of us are already feeling lonely and depressed...Still, it’s a rare AAA video game that will take any sort of risk — and Naughty Dog takes a lot of risks.

VICE: The Last of Us Part II feels complacent, yet also preoccupied with its predecessor. Every facet of the original game has been expanded and enlarged in the sequel, but not actually improved. It is as if its only inspiration is the original game, and the well of pop culture it was drawing from. There is practically nothing here we haven’t seen and done repeatedly throughout previous Naughty Dog games. It sets out to surpass its predecessor, but the only meaningful contrast between them is in its even more oppressive bleakness and violence. It digs two graves, fills them with blood, and then just fu.king wallows in them.

Polygon: The Last of Us Part 2 depicts individual people who are instead ruthless, capable, yet self-absorbed, and whose perception of violence is limited to how it affects them and their chosen family members. They are almost unbelievably unable to see the bigger picture. Part 2 ends up feeling needlessly bleak, at a time when a nihilistic worldview has perhaps never been less attractive. Its characters are surviving, but they’re not learning, and they’re certainly not making anything better. Maybe the most surprising thing that The Last of Us Part 2 offered me was the surety that, while the game was made with great skill and craft, we are actually much, much better than Naughty Dog thinks we are.

Kotaku: The first game’s story was polarizing; this one’s will clearly be as well. So many people worked on this game for so long, and at such cost, that I want The Last Of Us II to be more than the experience I had. It’s a visually beautiful game that feels distinct to play, and the story it tells and how it tells it, at the most basic level, certainly pushes the edges of what games have done before. None of those accomplishments elevated or redeemed it for me. Like the nature consuming Seattle, or the outbreak consuming humanity, its ugliness overshadowed everything else.

Ars Technica: Trying to extend the story of The Last of Us in a meaningful way was always going to be an uphill battle. What’s so frustrating about Part 2 is that the game seems to have all the pieces necessary to do just that. But those pieces end up getting lost as the game also tries to tell an entirely new story, one that tries to expand the Last of Us world into a generalized setting for an anthology of loosely connected stories. The end result never comes together in a satisfying way.

It's very convenient that none of these outlets happened to send in a numerical score to lower the game's metacritic rating, lol.

@Octane Yeah, I looked up that developer afterward. These people are such incredibly talented animators!

Brand new as devs, though, so I'll be curious to see if Kena ends up succeeding as a gameplay experience.

Lol that's the most Polygon criticism of all Polygon criticisms.

I'm guessing the fact that Polygon and Kotaku are quite critical means that the game isn't just mindless "progressive" political propaganda, as some feared.

I still probably won't play it unless its in the bargan bin, because I just don't need a grim story like that at the moment, but it's good to know that they've vaguely made it work.

That doesn't matter. It likely still has too many gay characters and non-attractive women for the alt right people who have been upset about it since it was first revealed. The same people who cried about HZD having a female protagonist with slightly more masculine facial features.

The people who didn't want to play it since it looked like vapid misery porn seem to have been justified, though.

Is that a real thing? I never even heard that. That sounds like something about 100 people said.

She's pretty feminine as video game women go from western developers. There is a problem with western developers deliberately making female characters unrealistically masculine, because they're desperate to avoid the accusation that the character is "sexualized" in any way. But I wouldn't say Aloy is particularly guilty of that.

Welp this cements it. I'll be sitting out this launch. I only saw a possible 3 games that I really wanted and my requirement is 5 for a non Nintendo system. Plus I'm hesitant there will be a pro version down the line after the last mid hardware upgrades. Only way I'll jump in early at this point is if the disc version gets phased out early, as I can barely support my current systems with my internet. That being said I do wanna see how large the installs are for these new games (the ones built for ps5) as they are already currently at "go cook dinner" length.

Tentative buy list: Edit (these are going to be ps4 games so I'm sitting the ps5 out for a few years)
Spiderman: MM (if it is a true sequel)
Horizon

Curious but not sold
Returnal (but I need to see gameplay)
Ratchet and clank

@Ryu_Niiyama The SSD should mean that installs are pretty much non-existent compared to the 5-10 minute installs on PS4.

And FYI, Spider-Man Miles Morales is more like an expansion. I believe it contains the 2018 Spider-Man game with additional content where you play as Miles. But they're a bit vague on that, so I'll wait on more info. Don't really fancy buying the full game again for additional content.

@Octane I've seen the confusion and back tracking on Spidey:MM, so I'll wait on clarification. I have the original and all the DLC so if it is just a little bit more then I'll wait till it hits the bargin bin. I love MM but not enough to buy the same game for essentially a skin. I'm hoping once the dust settles it will be more like First Light.

Either way most of the other stuff that looked interesting were ps4 games so I can absolutely wait. Xbox only has BC right now that has me interested (and not launch price interested) so at this point I'll be waiting on both. Works for me, Ghost of Tsushima should be good. And I still have both Nioh games and Horizon to finish.

That spider man news really is lame, it definitely felt misleading.

Going back to ps4 a moment, I've been playing Nioh with the SO. It's been a lot of fun playing with someone else, and the way it handles Co op is so much better than the Souls Bourne series. I think it may be my favorite of these types of games, honestly. Can't wait to finish and start the DLC.

I'm glad I waited on Spider-Man. I'll probably just wait to play the PS5 version at this point.

@TuVictus Considering that it's called Spider-Man: Miles Morales instead of Spider-Man II, I always expected this to be a smaller side project. The ending in Spider-Man also hints at a sequel, and none of that was in this trailer.

Is it actually the whole PS4 game remastered but with a new expansion story then? It's really not clear what it is.

@Dezzy From the PlayStation website:

Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales from Insomniac Games and Marvel

The latest adventure in the Spider-Man universe will build on and expand Marvel’s Spider-Man through an all-new story. Players will experience the rise of Miles Morales as he masters new powers to become his own Spider-Man. With PS5’s ultra-fast SSD, players can near-instantaneously fast-travel across Marvel’s New York City, or feel the tension of each one of Miles’s web-swings, punches, web shots, and venom blasts with the DualSense wireless controller’s haptic feedback. Highly-detailed character models and enhanced visuals across the game intensify the story of Miles Morales as he faces great, new challenges while learning to be his own Spider-Man.

I don't know. They make it sound like it's a brand new game, but set in the same world. So mostly reused assets, but with a new story, new main character.

So maybe they don't want to call this Spider-Man II, as that one will obviously feature the Green Goblin, and probably Peter Parker as well. So maybe this is more like Uncharted Lost Legacy or Infamous First Light.

@Octane I thought this from the jump, honestly I'm surprised to see people upset thinking it's a full on sequel. I instantly thought this will probably be a UC Lost Levacy type situation since we're only a couple years removed from initial release. Didn't feel misleading or deceptive at all in my eyes.

Edit: just saw this and and they seem to be wanting to drive the point home that it's a standalone game.