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Jazzer94

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It depends. The main focus looks to be cinematics and QTE, and not everybody cares for that. I realize that Bayonetta and plenty of other game use QTE. It just so happens that Sony has embraced that.

You're right about multiplayer not always being a good focus, but I'd say this was the game that should have had multiplayer. This game deserves multiplayer even more so than Uncharted, IMO.

I just think it's hypocritical that Sony can evade multiplayer criticism, but then Nintendo gets criticised for not having online multiplayer in Pikmin 3 or NSMB.U. It literally makes no sense.

I see what you are saying about the online multiplayer the problem is Sony will have plenty of 1st party PS4 games that will utilize PSN for competitive play whereas Nintendo have yet (to my knowledge) released a retail 1st party Wii U games that utilizes NN that is set to change with SSB4 and MK8 but whats coming after that, I don't want them to throw it into games like NSMBU and SM3DW but I think Pikmin 3 really could have been improved in terms of replay value with the option of on on/offline story mode coop and online mission coop as well as battle mode (so much fun).

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SCAR392

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@Jazzer94
So does Nintendo not having online excuse Sony, or does Sony not having online excuse Nintendo? I know PS3 has alot of 1st party online games, but I think this just shows that they can't uphold a standard that most would think they had.

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shingi_70

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Man Sony should have had more Japsese styled games ready for the PS4 launch. Should have gotten a PS4 port of Soul Scarfice Delta or something. We know they have games for that market coming, but the launch could have used something.

Also If I were Sony would pull out the money to get a PS4 port of Persona 5 and Zesteria.

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Jazzer94

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@Jazzer94
So does Nintendo not having online excuse Sony, or does Sony not having online excuse Nintendo? I know PS3 has alot of 1st party online games, but I think this just shows that they can't uphold a standard that most would think they had.

Can you elaborate because this post confuses me a lot.

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SCAR392

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@Jazzer94
So does Nintendo not having online excuse Sony, or does Sony not having online excuse Nintendo? I know PS3 has alot of 1st party online games, but I think this just shows that they can't uphold a standard that most would think they had.

Can you elaborate because this post confuses me a lot.

I'm basically just wondering what allows Sony to get a pass on online multiplayer. Everybody says online is standard, so Nintendo has failed on delivering an online experience. Now Sony doesn't have online for The Order: 1886 or inFamous: Second Son.

Nintendo still has local multiplayer, while both of those games have neither. The same reasoning for Nintendo's games are now irrelevant to Sony? Even local co-op would have been "standard", so apparently Sony can't deliver the same features that Nintendo got criticised for lacking, and arguably less, because of no local multiplayer modes.

It's just like Wii U's library. Everybody criticised it, but now Microsoft and Sony are in the same position, so everybody shut their mouths.

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Jazzer94

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So does Nintendo not having online excuse Sony, or does Sony not having online excuse Nintendo? I know PS3 has alot of 1st party online games, but I think this just shows that they can't uphold a standard that most would think they had.

Can you elaborate because this post confuses me a lot.

I'm basically just wondering what allows Sony to get a pass on online multiplayer. Everybody says online is standard, so Nintendo has failed on delivering an online experience. Now Sony doesn't have online for The Order: 1886 or inFamous: Second Son.

Nintendo still has local multiplayer, while both of those games have neither. The same reasoning for Nintendo's games are now irrelevant to Sony? Even local co-op would have been "standard", so apparently Sony can't deliver the same features that Nintendo got criticised for lacking, and arguably less, because of no local multiplayer modes.

It's just like Wii U's library. Everybody criticised it, but now Microsoft and Sony are in the same position, so everybody shut their mouths.

The problem with your post is that you are picking little snippets to try to inflate the point you're making instead of looking at the situation in its entirety which would show Sony have consistently supported PSN with competitive games and will continue with Driveclub and Uncharted 4 and whatever else they have got planned.

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SCAR392

1,067. Posted:

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I am looking at the entire situation. Nintendo will have online games, Sony will have online games, and Nintendo has more local multiplayer games. The point is that people criticised aspects of Nintendo that are now relevant to PS4, because those aspects objectively meet or exceed the expectations of said critics.

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@SCAR392 It's hard for PSBOX heads to see with all that egg over their faces ;)

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shingi_70

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@SCAR392 It's hard for PSBOX heads to see with all that egg over their faces ;)

How so?

Sony making a game single ayer doesn't preclude the fact that the majority of there games have an online componet.

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micronean

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I went to Akihabara today and yesterday (the day of the PS4 launch in Japan). It wasn't anywhere close to a sales frenzy like in the west. I'm kind of disappointed. I hung around both the Wii U and this, the PS4, launches here in Japan, but both have been deceptively quiet--though Wii U moreso.

PS4, Xbox, or Nintendo, this generation looks to be a very lengthy slow-burn...

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SCAR392

1,071. Posted:

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I just tend to think of every generation as a fresh slate, so it wouldn't be fair to include PS3 as their catalogue for the 8th generation, especially without BC. Everybody criticised Wii U for not having online multiplayer in their games, and the lack of games. Now PS4 is out, and there's still hardly anything to play, but also the same criticism is now geared towards Sony. That's what makes the situation ironic.

Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin, Game & Wario, NSMB.U, Wii Party U, and such are all local multiplayer. Killzone, inFamous, and The Order don't have local multiplayer, and Killzone is the only game with online. Even without online, Nintendo delivered more games, then they have multiplayer on top of that.

Lastly, Sony paying indies for content can only last so long. There's alot of negatives on PS4 that PS fans aren't willing to address. It doesn't make alot of people look so nice or knowledgeable. No offense.

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banacheck

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But the thing is the PS4 is only 3 months old, no console to date has had more games within the first few months. Sony has a lot of online games infamous has never been an online game, so why should it start now? The Order 1886 is also an offline game which if fine by me. I think you'll also notice there are a lot of online games releasing this year, not every game need online. The way your making it out sounds like the WiiU had Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin3, Game & Wario, NSMB.U, Wii Party U, 3 months after launch and not overa year later.

I think you'll find Sony doesn't need to pay for indie games outside exclusives, it's just far better platform that supports Indies unlike other platforms. Would you like links.

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Squiggle55

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There are plenty of things that Nintendo does well and does poorly, and the same could be said about Sony. But online infrastructure shouldn't even be up for debate. PSN and the entire online ecosystem of Sony is lightyears ahead of Nintendo, and as a Nintendo fan I find it much more productive to not let Nintendo continue to lag behind rather than try to find fault in Sony which isn't there.

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RancidVomit86

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Why does this thread have to turn into this? Can't we just discuss the games coming to PS4?

Every system has online and offline games coming. Every system has bad and good games coming. This is just a fact of life.

Just one thread that doesn't turn into which manufacturer is better would be nice to see.

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SCAR392

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Squiggle55 wrote:

as a Nintendo fan I find it much more productive to not let Nintendo continue to lag behind rather than try to find fault in Sony which isn't there.

I'm not debating the other part of your ppst, but saying that a fault that you don't think is there is kinda putting me under the bus. It's real criticism that Nintendo has received as well. I'm not specifically saying you were the one criticising Nintendo in this particular area, but it happened, and now Sony is kind of in the same situation.

People b****ed about no online multiplayer in Nintendo games, but now Sony has no local multiplayer in many of their games. I don't see how that's an irrelevant point when it clearly is. These last few messages that don't think anything of it makes it pretty apparent that some people are willing to give Sony the pass, but not Nintendo. It's hypocritical, or ironic.

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I agree. I was just merely repaying the criticism that Nintendo has received to another deserving party. No hard feelings. Carry on...

Multiplayer in The Order: 1886, FTW!

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DualWielding

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@SCAR392 I don't care about mutiplayer local or online, but its clear that independent of Sony's first party support the PS4 would get all major mulitplatform multiplayer oriented third party releases, in fact I prefer them to focus on single player since third parties seems to be all about online nowadays... However, we know most Multiplayer multiplatform titles won't hit the Wii U so if Nintendo want's to attract people who are onto multiplayer their first party efforts would need to pick the slack, specially if they want to use the fact that they offer free online multiplayer as a selling point

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SCAR392

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There are online multiplayer 3rd party games for Wii U. People just need to buy them.

I wouldn't count 3rd party support out, either, because Nintendo, indies, and Ubisoft are basically the only companies pushing the console, and always were. Activision and EA may have put some ports out, but aside from the launch window, Wii U owners expect more, so the sales argument is unfounded, given they didn't support it as outright as Xbox One and PS4.

Given that Wii U can support Direct X11 equivalent graphics, Wii U is getting the short end of the stick, far more than any criticism has to offer.

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CanisWolfred

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Lack of local multiplayer is a shame, but the fact is that nobody cares. The developers don't care - less work for them. The console makers don't care, because that just means people will pressure their friends into buying their consoles. The gamers mostly don't care because their gaming friends should have the same consoles they do, so they can play online anyways. It's not an issue. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

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SCAR392

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Ya, but these games don't have online either, so... Just sayin'.

Also, I agree that it's not an issue, which is why it's interesting that people complained about Nintendo, but won't for Sony on the same "issues".

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SCAR392 wrote:

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Ya, but these games don't have online either, so... Just sayin'.

Also, I agree that it's not an issue, which is why it's interesting that people complained about Nintendo, but won't for Sony on the same "issues".

Nobody complains about the lack of local multiplayer in Nintendo games. Unless you're saying Local Multiplayer = Online Multiplayer, in which case you should probably check yourself into the funny farm.

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