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Gso

21. Posted:

@Jimtendo You have a point there with the lives thing but he word 'Hardcore' is very subjective.

Would you consider animal crossing or someone who plays it hardcore?

How about someone who plays animal crossing every single day for years and collects everything without cheats or tricks and has the most perfect town?

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

BTW no trolling intended I just have a personal peeve with the word hardcore being used in gaming.

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22. Posted:

OP is a...
Nah, just kidding. Seriously, Sonic games are hit or miss. Colors was solid, Sonic 4 episode 1 was OK, Generations was AMAZINGOMGGOTY, Sonic4 episode 2 was mediocre, and Lost world was mixed...
Sonic games have their ups and downs, just go with the flow. Buy the good, not the bad...

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Red_XIII wrote:

OP is a...
Nah, just kidding. Seriously, Sonic games are hit or miss. Colors was solid, Sonic 4 episode 1 was OK, Generations was AMAZINGOMGGOTY, Sonic4 episode 2 was mediocre, and Lost world was mixed...
Sonic games have their ups and downs, just go with the flow. Buy the good, not the bad...

So true and it also depends on the person. I think Sonic R is pretty bad and when I play it looks cluncky and hard to control. Then my sister takes control and it's smooth racing through out. How I don't know but she makes the game look wonderful.

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Jimtendo wrote:

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Sonic says 'Listen here kiddo, I'm a million times more hardcore then that infinity lives baby gamed Mario' ;)

I wouldn't call Sonic Lost World 'Hardcore' just because you have less lives. If you loose all your lives on that game you just have to start from the beginning of that particular level. Back in the genesis/mega drive days, if you lost all your lives, it was game over!

I always found sonic games too easy to complete with all the collectibles, whereas Mario has always been tricky to find all the hidden stuff!

true indeed. Mario games have that mysterious ways of finding stuff whereas Sonic games tend to be easy with that with the exception of Adventure series.

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Artwark wrote:

Jimtendo wrote:

MadAussieBloke wrote:

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Sonic says 'Listen here kiddo, I'm a million times more hardcore then that infinity lives baby gamed Mario' ;)

I wouldn't call Sonic Lost World 'Hardcore' just because you have less lives. If you loose all your lives on that game you just have to start from the beginning of that particular level. Back in the genesis/mega drive days, if you lost all your lives, it was game over!

I always found sonic games too easy to complete with all the collectibles, whereas Mario has always been tricky to find all the hidden stuff!

true indeed. Mario games have that mysterious ways of finding stuff whereas Sonic games tend to be easy with that with the exception of Adventure series.

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SEGA oughta ask Nintendo's team over Super Mario 3D World to take a shot at Sonic. I bet those guys could make a legit Sonic game.
Sonic shouldn't retire.

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Although I don't think Sonic should retire outright, perhaps the time is over for big overblown Sonic games like Lost World and 06. I don't think the character has enough appeal for another must-have title, but there will always be avid fans for new games. With things like Sonic 4: Episode 1 and Sonic Colours, it's clear that they're still selling and there are people who still want them, but they don't quite fly off the shelves as they were expected to back in the earlier days.

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Geez, this OP is just full of joy and pep, ain't he?

How about you stop making a thread for every moronic little situation and idea that crosses your mind?

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30. Posted:

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@Gso Yea they You're Too Slow IGN video is the perfect example of this.

Edit: My bad wrong vid. Lol

I didn't look in the game before but good lord does it look like Mario galaxy!

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Look I'm not saying that I hate sonic. I'm concerned about him as well. This guy and Mario influenced me to become a game designer. Its just that I feel sorry about Sega failing him. They did Colors and Generations right so what happened in Lost World? I can understand that if they just keep milking the same speed thing over and over again, there wouldn't be anything unique about it. Since speed is Sonic's trademark, its really difficult to make him unique on speed because that's what Sonic is all about for the most part.

I swear if they put back Tails, Knuckles and even.....Amy in gameplay and just make Sonic only in 2D and continue making games like the advance series, they will do rather well because it works so well. Examples? Sonic the hedgehog trilogy, Advance trilogy, Rush series, Colors and Generations.

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Undead_terror wrote:

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@Gso Yea they You're Too Slow IGN video is the perfect example of this.

Edit: My bad wrong vid. Lol

I didn't look in the game before but good lord does it look like Mario galaxy!

Yea, everyone says that. But have you heard of Sonic Xtreme? Maybe Nintendo got an idea from it for Mario Galaxy? Sega kinda schemed this up long time ago.


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33. Posted:

That music!

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RancidVomit86 wrote:

Jimtendo wrote:

it will continue to experience poor sales

I will ignore all of your other hate talk in the post and bring up this one bit here. Since when has Sonic ever had poor sales?

I'm not really 'hate talking' now am I? Just voicing my opinion about a series that has declined over the years. If I were in charge of sega and saw that my company had to stop making consoles because not enough games were being sold, I would see that as poor to be honest.

Sonic 1 = 15m and it has only go worse from there, whereas Mario continues to sell millions.

I think people on here and mii verse tend to be little but hurt that sonic wasn't the amazing exclusive 3rd party game that we all wanted and deserve and refuse to believe that it is a distinctly average game.

My opinion people. Just thought you might need reminding.

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35. Posted:

Gso wrote:

@Jimtendo You have a point there with the lives thing but he word 'Hardcore' is very subjective.

Would you consider animal crossing or someone who plays it hardcore?

How about someone who plays animal crossing every single day for years and collects everything without cheats or tricks and has the most perfect town?

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

BTW no trolling intended I just have a personal peeve with the word hardcore being used in gaming.

Edit: @MadAussieBloke Sorry man I named you by mistake, my bad.

My point is that sonic is no more hardcore than Mario. I managed to blast through lost world in a weekend and found it ridiculously easy whereas with a 3D Mario game, I'll tend to be on it for months. I think the term 'hardcore' is thrown around to loosely, but I tend to associate it with something very difficult that takes years to master i.e. Mega man or street fighter

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36. Posted:

Jimtendo wrote:

RancidVomit86 wrote:

Jimtendo wrote:

it will continue to experience poor sales

I will ignore all of your other hate talk in the post and bring up this one bit here. Since when has Sonic ever had poor sales?

I'm not really 'hate talking' now am I? Just voicing my opinion about a series that has declined over the years. If I were in charge of sega and saw that my company had to stop making consoles because not enough games were being sold, I would see that as poor to be honest.

Sonic 1 = 15m and it has only go worse from there, whereas Mario continues to sell millions.

I think people on here and mii verse tend to be little but hurt that sonic wasn't the amazing exclusive 3rd party game that we all wanted and deserve and refuse to believe that it is a distinctly average game.

My opinion people. Just thought you might need reminding.

You didn't answer the question. "Poor sales" is not an opinion. That's a statement that requires facts to back it up. Do you have any facts to back that up? Even VGChartz will do at this point.

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No, but a studio that at least knows how to make a halfway decent game needs to take over. I played a bit of Lost World and it was beyond awful.

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38. Posted:

Jimtendo wrote:

RancidVomit86 wrote:

Jimtendo wrote:

it will continue to experience poor sales

I will ignore all of your other hate talk in the post and bring up this one bit here. Since when has Sonic ever had poor sales?

I'm not really 'hate talking' now am I? Just voicing my opinion about a series that has declined over the years. If I were in charge of sega and saw that my company had to stop making consoles because not enough games were being sold, I would see that as poor to be honest.

Sonic 1 = 15m and it has only go worse from there, whereas Mario continues to sell millions.

I think people on here and mii verse tend to be little but hurt that sonic wasn't the amazing exclusive 3rd party game that we all wanted and deserve and refuse to believe that it is a distinctly average game.

My opinion people. Just thought you might need reminding.

Way to dodge my question. Sonic still sells millions. Sega didn't have to pull out of the console business due to lack of software sales. You clearly don't know the history of Sega.

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39. Posted:

Absolutely not, that's absurd.

Why would Sonic retire just because a game got mixed reviews? Reviews mean sh*t - Sega don't care, and the majority of fans (the ones with sense anyway) don't care. As long as the series sells, it ain't going nowhere.

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40. Posted:

@RancidVomit85 @CanisWolfred I gracefully retract my previous comments, as I was on a bit of a rant the other day. You are both correct, Sonic still sells well, but I still maintain that that it does not reflect in the quality of the games that are released. With the exception of Generations, Colors and some of the 2D DS and advance titles, I feel that the vast Majority of sonic games that have been released over the years have been extremely poor.
I really don't want to come across as a Sega or Sonic hater, as I was and always will be a Sega kid, and it's because of this reason that I get so frustrated by coughing up each time for a poor sonic game.
Maybe Sonic shouldn't be retired, but Sonic team needs to be shaken up.

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