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Artwark

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I don't know how long sonic can keep up in the industry and I've been both a Mario and Sonic fan for years and while Sonic doesn't appeal me more than Mario does, he's still memorable and awesome especially with the new voice Roger Craig Smith.

With reviews being mixed about lost world, it just proves that sonic can't be innovative like Mario seeing that the core thing about Sonic is about speed.

So the question is, Should Sonic just give up or still stay strong? Granted Colors and Generations proved that he was back on track as well as the Nintendo exclusives but still.....

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Move along. Nothing to see here.

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RancidVomit86

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Lol you are hilarious! Sonic doesn't appeal to you as much anymore so Sega should just kill the series. Hate to be the one to slow your spin but Sonic games still sell a ton so there is plenty of people they still appeal to. If Nintendo pumps out a Mario game with mixed reviews does that mean they should kill the character off? No, absolutely not. Should Nintendo retire Mario because Sonic games appeal more to some people? No, absolutely not. Should Sega take any of these actions with Sonic? No, absolutely not.

To sum it up and go ahead and kick the thread in supersonic speed to death. No. Sega should not retire Sonic. Sonic is a classic with lots of fans and some awesome games being made.

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Sonic says 'Listen here kiddo, I'm a million times more hardcore then that infinity lives baby gamed Mario' ;)

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Dark-Luigi

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Wow, threads like this just make me laugh so hard milk will come out of my nose.

First mario, and now this? What's next? Should Link retire? Honestly...

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Captain_Toad

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Heh, If sonic should retire, at least end with a high note video game and a mario and sonic platformer crossover.

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Reala

7. Posted:

Much emo in this thread I sense.

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Reverandjames

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I think Sonic should retire. I'm an idiot for believing that Sega can bring out a decent sonic game with the amount of trash that has been shoveled out over the past 20 years.

What Sega have consistently got wrong since the mega drive era is the fact that it doesn't need a gimmick to make a good game. Just focus on what makes a sonic game great: Speed, Multiple Paths and precision platforming (the latter being something that Sonic LW did not achieve).

Until Sonic Team can get this right, it will continue to experience poor sales and reviews.

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spizzamarozzi

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I don't think it's a cardinal sin to state that Sonic is somehow surpassed. Anthropomorphic animal characters were very popular back then, and Sonic is a mascot that was tailor-made for the 90s and the phylosophy that games had to showcase speed, power and a most of all a coolness that was based on what was cool back then.
While some of the new games have been very good to exceptional (Generations, Lost Words, Colours etc), I think it is wise from Sega to search for another mascot and try to create a character that is timeless rather than functional to current trends or to single mechanics. Years ago I sent a drunk email to Sega telling them they should bring back Alex Kidd and invent some gameplay elements for a game with him instead of Sonic because he has "a 70s Neil Young hairdo". They said they appreciated the comment but it's not likely to happen.

It's not a matter of ratings and it's not a matter of sales (though it's true Sonic still sells alot!), but while Mario's formula is universal and can be applied to many environments (you got the side scrolling 2-D, then the free roaming 3-D, then a cross of both etc), I think Sonic's trademark "speed" is less versatile in the context of platform games, at least apparently. I still rate Sonic games rather highly, so I'm really not bashing the games, it's just speculation.

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Gso

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I grew up with Sonic. It is part of who I was and who I am. Even if the new games are bad there is still nostalgia to carry them through. Besides I can only think of 2 or 3 really bad ones.

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Bulbousaur

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If you want SEGA to die, then sure, let them retire Sonic.

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RancidVomit86

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Gso wrote:

I grew up with Sonic. It is part of who I was and who I am. Even if the new games are bad there is still nostalgia to carry them through. Besides I can only think of 2 or 3 really bad ones.

Because there was only 2 or 3 bad ones and people act like it was the end of everything.

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Gso

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Maybe it's not that the games are bad but what we expect. We want to be blown away by new things yet we want Sega to retain the same formula used before. It's a bit difficult to please everyone, and that is why Sonic games that use both 3D and 2D have been the norm lately.

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RancidVomit86

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@Gso That's like IGN complaining Generations was too fast and then bashing Lost World for giving you the option to slow things down. No matter what they do people will find a way to complain and I don't really care as long as it is a game I enjoy.

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Gso

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@ RancidVomit86 About Sonic Lost World... It's funny how reviewers complained about the game but if you go on Miiverse people tell you not to listen and to actually give the game a chance.

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RancidVomit86

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@Gso Yea they You're Too Slow IGN video is the perfect example of this.

Edit: My bad wrong vid. Lol

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MoogleMuffins

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MadAussieBloke wrote:

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Sonic says 'Listen here kiddo, I'm a million times more hardcore then that infinity lives baby gamed Mario' ;)

Do you have to keep doing that in every Sonic thread?

I don't think they should retire him, while I've never been the biggest Sonic fan, there's no denying he's a huge icon in video games. To wipe him off the map completely would be a shame. They just need to get people to make great Sonic games again. Like I said, I'm not a huge Sonic fan but I loved Sonic Adventure Battle 2 along with Generations.

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I wasn't aware that virtual hedgehogs needed retirement.

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Reverandjames

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MadAussieBloke wrote:

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Sonic says 'Listen here kiddo, I'm a million times more hardcore then that infinity lives baby gamed Mario' ;)

I wouldn't call Sonic Lost World 'Hardcore' just because you have less lives. If you loose all your lives on that game you just have to start from the beginning of that particular level. Back in the genesis/mega drive days, if you lost all your lives, it was game over!

I always found sonic games too easy to complete with all the collectibles, whereas Mario has always been tricky to find all the hidden stuff!

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RancidVomit86

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Jimtendo wrote:

it will continue to experience poor sales

I will ignore all of your other hate talk in the post and bring up this one bit here. Since when has Sonic ever had poor sales?

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