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Robzo100

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Religion is not really a noun; it's an adjective. It describes a noun. In other words, it's about personality because that's what adjectives are. It's not about Jesus, or Ganesha (The 10-armed Elephant guy), it's about worshiping those guys. When you do something religiously you do it with discipline. You do it everyday, every week, every month, every year. That's how important it is to you.

I'll make it really simple. It's about passion, and the cosmos and aethereal entities happen to be widley held passions so that is why those things are associated with religion and not pancakes, football, or Super Mario. Those things are too specific and don't reside within the imagination of the masses even though they may be just as, or more, important to some people. But the mystery of the cosmos and life does reach everyone's imagination.

Cutting to the chase, here's the article that made want to post about all this. It shows the conceptual similarities between sports and religion without using science, and then talks about identifying the actual psychological connections between the two ( http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/200911/is... ). Here are some useful chunks:

///Consider the vocabulary associated with both: faith, devotion, worship, ritual, dedication, sacrifice, commitment, spirit, prayer, suffering, festival, and celebration...prior to mass communications, religious ceremonies were a source of entertainment for ordinary people who rarely attended a theater or traveled to a sporting event....Sports stadia and arenas resemble “cathedrals where followers gather to worship their heroes and pray for their successes…fans are highly committed...in a way that gives focus and meaning to their daily lives. In addition, sports spectatorship is a transformative experience through which fans escape their humdrum lives, just as religious experiences help the faithful to transcend their everyday existence…Face painting, hair tinting, and distinctive costumes are thought to satisfy specific religious goals including identification with the team, escape from everyday limitations and disappointments, and establishing a community of fans///

Again, simple stuff, right? Aren't we just describing what it means to be passionate about something? Furthermore, the words "passion" and "love" are interchangeable. We can all relate to the kind of love for something or someone that creates a religious/spiritual attitude within us. One that may even drive us towards irrationality or blindness.

I'm thinking of cult-like series/franchises like Smash (Melee forsure), Halo, Call of Duty, WoW, etc. These are all franchises where the love/passion for them has driven us towards irrational religious behavior that seems so odd to outsiders like we are wasting our time staring at some Holy "imaginary" screen.
So, does this "gaming" perspective give you a more empathetic view of religion? Does it accurately apply to videogames?

I'm honestly more interested in everyone else's opinions and seeing where the discussion will go, but if you want a more singular/deeper take on it I tried to go much further here ( https://playforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/religion-and-sports/ ).

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Galenmereth

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To believe in a god or many gods is religion. To believe in sports, video games, what have you, is to believe in something material which is actually there. So no: you can be passionate, and irrationally in love with a sport or a game, but it's not religious behavior. Religion is about believing in creator entities which cannot be proven or disproved scientifically.

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Robzo100

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Galenmereth wrote:

To believe in a god or many gods is religion. To believe in sports, video games, what have you, is to believe in something material which is actually there. So no: you can be passionate, and irrationally in love with a sport or a game, but it's not religious behavior. Religion is about believing in creator entities which cannot be proven or disproved scientifically.

Good points, but the importance of a soccer/tennis/football match and it's outcome is imaginary. I think that is the connection. We do crazy things for things which have no importance other than they give us an intuitive satisfaction. Isn't that the same with religion?

And the same with videogames. We are transported to imaginary worlds which have no importance and aren't real. But we decide to participate nonetheless and let them have importance in our life to the point where we will disregard things in the real world (like our jobs, friends, family, etc.).

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Morphbug

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This will probably end up not so well.

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Galenmereth

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Actually, the outcome of a soccer/tennis/football match is quantifiable: someone gains something of recognizable value, whether that be a medal opening up future sports career possibilities, sponsorship, or a team winning a match to secure future involvement in the championship.

When it comes to games, what you learn from games is seldom completely imaginary. From FPS you gain the ability to react faster to visual and audio input. An RTS will improve your strategic and real-time problem solving capabilities. A puzzle game improves logical deduction. It is certainly true that getting addicted to games can and do have serious negative side effects, but this does not in any way mean it can be likened to religion.

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Dave24

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Religion needs to have a God(s) or at least philisophy behind it (just like Buddism).

You mistake "religion" with "sick obsession" and/or "addiction", unless you are counting stalking as religion, then only adivce I can give you is go to near by clinic for some clean dose of sterilisation.

Anyway, now excuse me, I'm going to pray to my shrine of KitKat

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Octane

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Religion
NOUN
''The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.''

Even a monkey's butt can tell the difference between this and video games.

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technotaylor98

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???
Uh, not sure what this is all about. I'm a Christian and I play games. But I obviously don't consider my games a religion... It's a game. True, some people can make material things their god, (money, games, job) if they are not careful. But I don't really see what you are trying to say with this thread.

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@Robzo100, if you're here to advertise your blog, we ask that everyone do so via their user signature and/or profile information. That's what it's there for. As for religion, it's one of the few topics that we do not discuss here since it always turns into a cascade of people posting for the purpose of being awful to others — not saying that was your intent, just explaining why this is being shut down. Sorry to disappoint!

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