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Topic: PS4 Vs. Xbox One: Which One Are You Buying?

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WaveWarlock

61. Posted:

@Jaz007
There are only so many stories you can tell around the campfire. coming up with advanced game play innovation(not talking hardware) these days is a tough cookie to crack without pulling ideas from established classic franchises. Super Mario, Mega Man, Castlevania, Ghosts 'n Goblins, just to name a few have their own identity, they play and control completely different from one another.

Mind you, this obviously wasn't a tough cookie to crack when gaming was in it's infant days(NES), when there wasn't a giant monstrous decade riddled catalog of classic hits to really borrow from or be inspired by other than those uuber yet oh so awesome simplistic and primitive Atari games and what have you.. developers had it made, everything was left up to their imagination, and with their small budgets, Tight & tiny dev teams and less time required to make these games they could afford to take risks, and they had far more freedom when it came to creativity Vs the giant monkey factories like EA.

really though, I'm trying to think of one recent title that managed to push the envelope in regards to game design. It's becoming a blur, i've played way too many games on way too many consoles. But i can't speak on behalf of the PS3 and XBOX 360 since i haven't dipped into either for quite some time. :P
Game design innovations these days tend to slip past me, because for the most part they're probably not that significant or noticeable. I remember Resident Evil 1(PSONE original) which gave birth to the survival horror genre if you can somehow ignore Alone in the dark's existence. But holy he-man & hell, RE1 was groundbreaking, at least i found during the time. That's what you call innovative game design. ;)

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62. Posted:

PS4 of course, will be my first playstation :)
then i'll have: MacBook Pro + Wii U + 3DS XL + PS4, don't need anything else for gaming, can play any game i want

why the hell would i ever buy this creepy spy thing called xbox one from the biggest fail company there is?
to play the worst game (CoD) with 12year olds? no thanks

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SCAR392

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I haven't seen game changing gameplay from Xbox 360 or PS3 in the past 5 years, about. The gameplay was better in later games, but it was basically what was already there.
Gears of War, Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, Killzone 2, Dead Rising, RE5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Bioshock, Uncharted, etc. games released around the same time as those were the last time I really saw anything from those systems being "must-haves", IMO.
Believe me. I enjoyed those games, and even more recent ones on those platforms, but around the end of 2008 is when it stopped being fresh and they started recycling stuff.

The Wii suffered the same type of things at times, too, but the Wii remote was entirely different, so it warranted a purchase and consistent attention, regardless. I had RedSteel, Wii Sports, and Zelda at Wii launch, followed by games like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes, etc. hardcore games.

The Wii attracted/required attention that was completely different from what the others were doing, that's why comparing was impossible.

There was alot of fun stuff on EVERY system, but Wii always had the motion controls that made you look away from the HD twins for a bit and play games differently.

RedSteel, looked at as a poor game, is exactly how I've come to see ZombiU on the Wii U as well. Under appreciated launch games that are exactly what people ask for, yet no one wants them when push comes to shove.

RedSteel was a blast. It was the first FPS game with some sword fights on the side. That's before motion plus was released, and the sword fights were still accurate if you played the game right.

This is 7th all over again, except now Nintendo has a WAY more powerful machine and has brought their now developed, tried, and trusted Wii remote along with them. I will stand by the Wii remote first and foremost, and the GamePad is welcome as the DS was for me as well.

Again, every system is worth having, but Nintendo will ultimately be the one getting most of my money, because things are alot more even this time around graphically while still retaining the last generation appeal of having a standard motion control option available.

XBox One is next for me, but if/when Nintendo releases a Starfox, Metroid, and once 3rd parties stop making excuses and support Nintendo with their games, the Wii remote will renew its lease into people's homes along with the touch option that's become standard in gaming since the Nintendo DS.

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@TheWavedOne Yeah, there's only so many ways you can blow something to bits or stab a bunch of polygons before ya just take a look at yourself in the mirror and say 'what am I bloody doing with my life, this is kind of rediculous don't ya reckon'... That sums up the ownage of a MicroSony product over the years ;)

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@TheWavedOne Yeah, there's only so many ways you can blow something to bits or stab a bunch of polygons before ya just take a look at yourself in the mirror and say 'what am I bloody doing with my life, this is kind of rediculous don't ya reckon'... That sums up the ownage of a MicroSony product over the years ;)

The only exception, would be first wave PS1 games. ;) That console had some quality stuff....Sort of, although most have aged horribly outside of them tiemless 32-bit sprite critters like Mega Man 8, X4, Rayman, Castlevania SOTN ect. These days the most lamewad-exciting game design innovations on those twin titan's seem to be body dismemberment, scripted explosions, high budget voice acting, 10 hour long movie cut scenes, topped off with a mindless life sucking/time wasting achievement point system just so you can impress your invisible girlfriend, that or pat your self on that pudgy poo bear back of yours. oh and those uuber duuber intuitive(NOT) thumb wielding quick time events are just wonderful....

God of war, is truly a god of bore the button masher king of count koopula it tis' And Call of duty and Gears of War? Bah....Real men play Contra and Metal Slug. rawr! rawr! ;) Congrats Sony And MS you have officially entered the Bronze age of gaming. now leave my mullet alone. :*

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@TheWavedOne Yeah, there's only so many ways you can blow something to bits or stab a bunch of polygons before ya just take a look at yourself in the mirror and say 'what am I bloody doing with my life, this is kind of rediculous don't ya reckon'... That sums up the ownage of a MicroSony product over the years ;)

The only exception, would be first wave PS1 games. ;) That console had some quality stuff....Sort of, although most have aged horribly outside of them tiemless 32-bit sprite critters like Mega Man 8, X4, Rayman, Castlevania SOTN ect. These days the most lamewad-exciting game design innovations on those twin titan's seem to be body dismemberment, scripted explosions, high budget voice acting, 10 hour long movie cut scenes, topped off with a mindless life sucking/time wasting achievement point system just so you can impress your invisible girlfriend, that or pat your self on that pudgy poo bear back of yours. oh and those uuber duuber intuitive(NOT) thumb wielding quick time events are just wonderful....

God of war, is truly a god of bore the button masher king of count koopula it tis' And Call of duty and Gears of War? Bah....Real men play Contra and Metal Slug. rawr! rawr! ;) Congrats Sony And MS you have officially entered the Bronze age of gaming. now leave my mullet alone. :*

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67. Posted:

I'd personally say this is the golden age of video games but that's just me.

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WaveWarlock

68. Posted:

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I'd personally say this is the golden age of video games but that's just me.

The Golden Age for moi, would be a count chocola cocktail mix of NES,SNES & Wii....The N64 however, can go die in a bomber man grease fire. ;) The PS1 won that generation for me. BTW were you around during the golden age aka NES & SNES era? 85'-94 to be exact. My little NintenJourney started in 89' still annoys me that i wasn't born a few years earlier to get a taste of the NES during it's launch in 85'. :P But eh, i'm just grateful that i got a lick of the amazing late 80's and early 90's.

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@WaveBoy You ever try Mark of the Ninja? It's a sidescroller stealth game. Despite being it's own unique kind of game, I found it to be among the purest stealth games I've played.
You ever try Vanquish? Imagine the most visceral third person shooter ever. Now multiply that by 10.
You ever try little game called Portal? You may have heard of it. Direct me to a game like Portal before that came out.
You ever try Mirror's Edge? Not exactly the same as all first person games, what with it being a platformer and all.
You ever try Sound Shapes? It's a game where you can make a song, and then you make a game based off of that song.

Games have innovated a lot this past generation. Be it new, simplified ways to interact with the environment (Gears of War), new ways for people to play online (Call of Duty 4), pushing the envelope for bigger worlds (Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls 4), creating better stories in genres where it traditionally wasn't a focus (Spec Ops: The Line, Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite, The Last of Us, new ways of encouraging diverse play (Bulletstorm), better, more adaptable AI (numerous examples, but RAGE stems to mind, what with that being what it was marketed as), the creation of a wide variety of tools for player created content (LittleBigPlanet) or the increased ability to make things more realistic then ever before (car sims like Forza 3 and 4 are a good example).

It's fine to not like these innovations. It's fine to not like these genres. It's fine for your favorite games to be games of the past. But don't say that this generation didn't have innovation. Don't say that innovation can only come from different types of control input. Because when you look at game design, it's clearly there in spades.

All of that stuff is a big part of why I'm excited for the next consoles. Because it means we'll see more of the envelope being pushed in terms of game design. Heck, a quick look at something like Project Spark seems to be full of innovation.

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71. Posted:

Pretty cool PS4 PS+ trailer.

As a somewhat strapped Gamer I might buy a Vita/PS4 as my main et up and coast on PS+ as apart of my gaming diet.

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72. Posted:

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Pretty cool PS4 PS+ trailer.

As a somewhat strapped Gamer I might buy a Vita/PS4 as my main et up and coast on PS+ as apart of my gaming diet.

Yup, that's definitely a one way ticket to poopsville. I'm falling asleep, somebody please save me or i'll forever slip into a subcon coma.

Calling those games bland with a capital brimming B would be a compliment. ;)

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73. Posted:

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Neither

Seconded. Not so much that I hate anything non-Nintendo (though I absolutely detest Microsoft), it's more that I can't afford a whole extra console plus its library of games that I probably wouldn't enjoy anyway.

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KingH3nrry wrote:

Neither

Seconded. Not so much that I hate anything non-Nintendo (though I absolutely detest Microsoft), it's more that I can't afford a whole extra console plus its library of games that I probably wouldn't enjoy anyway.

Third-ed?
I'm quite content with my Wii U. Plus, the other consoles just don't have enough of the games that I like to play.

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75. Posted:

PS4 :3

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76. Posted:

WingedFish wrote:

KingH3nrry wrote:

Neither

Seconded. Not so much that I hate anything non-Nintendo (though I absolutely detest Microsoft), it's more that I can't afford a whole extra console plus its library of games that I probably wouldn't enjoy anyway.

Plus, like me you would probably get a little overwhelmed with the amount of consoles/games you'd have to keep up with. 3DS retail titles, 3DS VC, 3DSWare, Wii retail , WiiWare, Wii VC, Wii U retail, WiiUWare & WiiUVC and whatever else you've got cooking that's either retro or non-nintendo related. That's already too much as it is, throwing in a PS4 or XBOX one would send your brain cooking on a trip to dimension X and you wouldn't be able to catch a late night flick with beautiful Betsy down the street at your local 5 & dine Drive in. Life's too short, the majority of videogames(I'd say 75%) these days outside of nintendo are so vastly overrated as it is. The PS4 and One's launch line up at least in my eyes look pretty damn boring. At this point i'm just intrested in what capcom's doing with the Resident Evil reboot.

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Video on the Xbox One Controller

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I think Xbox One has the best standard controller. PS4 has the next best, because this all compared to the Pro controller, but I figure by the time I want touch and motion in the controller, I'll just stick with the GamePad.
The only advantage is that you can 4 PS4 controllers with the touch pad, but Nintendo kills every other aspect with the Wii remote and GamePad.

Kinect is better than PS Eye.
Move is mainly the same as the Wii remote. The Wii remote uses more free form motion control than Move, but all of the stuff will eventually have 9-axis, probably.
The GamePad can act alot more freely. You can technically do what the PS Eye and Move controller are doing in relation to each other via 9-axis/geomagnetic tracking. That means you don't need a camera, but there's other stuff ultimately going on between them all.

Plus Nintendo and Microsoft just support those other options like 95% more. Every Wii game used the Wii remote, and now Kinect will have just as much of a chance.

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79. Posted:

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Video on the Xbox One Controller

I like the idea of Next Gen rumble feedback in the triggers, and it's nice to finally see MS create a working D-pad for once. :P But honestly, this entire bit was riDUCKulous. This is serious buisness i see.lol The controller dissection and whatever was completely unnecessary, this isn't a ferrari or James dean hot rod for crying out loud. Not exactly a fun new way to promote the controller. this industry is taking it self way too seriously these days haha.

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80. Posted:

@WaveHeadOne To sum up the XBone controller 'designed by a FPS enthusiast for losers that play FPS 24/7'. Sounds like we know what genre will dominate on that system... Just like the generations before ;)

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