Whenever I look at upcoming PS4 games, Nothing really screams "Next-Gen" to me. Aside from Indies, and the rare Japanese developed game, everything seems to be doing the same thing last gen did, pushing for realism and graphics and adult themes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, In fact, those games are more than welcome. But aside from indies, LBP3, and *lol*Knack, that's all there seems to be. Admitedly, this was kind of a problem with last generation. Thank god for Nintendo, handhelds, and indie games. Say what you will about them, but at least they're offering games beyond Hollywood production values.
Only time will tell, but I see what you're hinting at here. It doesn't look like PS4 and XboxOne will change a whole lot of what PS360 pulled off... though that's even more the case with XboxOne... essentially MS are going backwards in online efficiency from 360 because they don't seem to care much about their consumer base. Now, though PS4 will offer much of PS3's awesome exclusive lineup on download, my brother already has one, and Playstation TV is coming soon at a cheaper price which is great since it does exactly the same thing offering backwards compatibility. So, at least there are options for experienced gamers on a budget.
Look, Mature, realistic-looking games have their place, and I would hate to see them leave. But developers need to realize that balance is a good thing, and not everything has to be a realistic, M-rated, action game. How about a colorful platformer for once? Why not another colorful, over-the-top, fighter like BlazBlue or Smash Bros. I'm not saying everything has to be super innovative and unique. But, balance out cartoons and color, with brown and grey. If the film industry can do this, why can't games?
Don't get me wrong, there are a few next gen games that interest me. KH3, Sunset Overdrive, Infamous Second Son, Uncharted 4, Rime, Nintendo games, and the many indie titles comming. So I'm not saying I have zero interest in next-generation, just a very limited interest. I think most of my gaming will be dedicated to Handhelds, downloadable, last gen and retro gaming for quite a while.
Colorful, innovative games don't produce money. It's all about the one popular brand for the non-Nintendo guys... ugh.
Also agree with you at the end. Smash Bros will keep me occupied as far as new releases go this year, otherwise my game library remains full and I need to finish with it before moving on.
I always forget how some people can have such narrow views of things. I think every gen there is a crowd that says it's the same old thing, we've peaked, or that innovation is dead but then every cycle proves all of these ideas to be wrong as we go. Graphics get much improved, games get bigger with more choices, new styles of gameplay are introduced, and innovative games are released.
Bit quick to pull the trigger of judgement this far in. Launch titles are not the defining measure of a console and anyone that's into gaming should have the patience needed to wait for the console to mature some.
They used to be not necessarily the best thing the console could possibly do but the best thing that was available period at the time of release.
(N64 and Dreamcast that certainly applied to).
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Whenever I look at upcoming PS4 games, Nothing really screams "Next-Gen" to me.
You're not looking hard enough.
The far better question is: How hard do i have to look for games to kick of a new generation ?
Honestly, every gen so far had launch(window) titles that defined the consoles stand point, complimented its features and set our eyes on whats to come.
The SNES had Games like F-Zero, bringing faux 3D to the home TV and SMW, upping the scale of SMB3 big time.
Sega made its point clear with awesome arcade ports on the Genesis.
The N64 showed people what 3D was all about and how to properly use it with Pilot WIngs and Mario 64
The PS1 launch line up, much like the PS2 one was rather tame. Though the PS2 kicked off with titles like Dynasty Warriors two, showing what the new Horsepower under the consoles hood is all about.
The Gamecube introduced Nintendo fans to more atmospheric titles like Wave Race, Luigis Mansion and Rogue Squadron, all incoporating the systems new power to create new experiences and looks, that hold up even today.
The Xbox360 upped what could go on at the screen at once with games like Kameo, while defining what the new HD look is all about with games like PGR3. The PS3 did much the same with grand games like Genji and Resistance showing what that power is all about, and what devs are able to pull off.
And now ? What now ? Where are the games showing me whats to expect ? So much computing power and all there is, are games that are also on the PS360. To me it seems, that this will be the generation of FPS and Resolution....and not much more.
No real kickoff showing us how crazy it can become, no Kameo or Dynasty Warriors to show us ho many entitys the system can portray simultaniously, no Mario 64 to introduce us to a whole new diension. Just Knack, showing us how dull particle effects can be with gameplay from the 90s, just Dead Rising 3, doing what is predecessor did, now in a brown coat, just Killzone, doing what every shooter did since the beginning of last gen.
Even Nintendo missed a proper kickoff that truely blasted people away, but the at least tried to come up with concepts like asynchronous multiplayer and social components without using the word Facebook.
The current generation is lacking a vision, a goal beyond looks.
I'm really not sure what you were expecting, Resogun was a launch title used the new power for mesmerizing particle effects. inFamous: Second Son was a launch window title and showed the systems power, the graphics with the characters models, powers that helped give a lot of their kick with the visual effects, and the general beauty of the city ; the improved view-draw distance (which also changed how they could design the game); and whatnot couldn't have been done before. If you've looked at the upcoming next-gen (not cross-gen) games you'll see there is plenty of vision and new experiences being done that weren't possible before.
I wonder what will come next for Sony and Microsoft.........photo real graphics with facebook online and offline and a huge ton of price that's like 800$ or something.
I can't believe that Sony is worried about the sales rather than being excited about them.
What I don't get is people who only look at the technical side of things. I find a game like Scram Kitty really innovative and fresh, while its graphics could have been done with a SNES. It does not even take advantage of the Gamepad either.
Maybe because I am a gameplay over graphics person.
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Whenever I look at upcoming PS4 games, Nothing really screams "Next-Gen" to me. Aside from Indies, and the rare Japanese developed game, everything seems to be doing the same thing last gen did, pushing for realism and graphics and adult themes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, In fact, those games are more than welcome. But aside from indies, LBP3, and *lol*Knack, that's all there seems to be. Admitedly, this was kind of a problem with last generation. Thank god for Nintendo, handhelds, and indie games. Say what you will about them, but at least they're offering games beyond Hollywood production values.
Only time will tell, but I see what you're hinting at here. It doesn't look like PS4 and XboxOne will change a whole lot of what PS360 pulled off... though that's even more the case with XboxOne... essentially MS are going backwards in online efficiency from 360 because they don't seem to care much about their consumer base. Now, though PS4 will offer much of PS3's awesome exclusive lineup on download, my brother already has one, and Playstation TV is coming soon at a cheaper price which is great since it does exactly the same thing offering backwards compatibility. So, at least there are options for experienced gamers on a budget.
Look, Mature, realistic-looking games have their place, and I would hate to see them leave. But developers need to realize that balance is a good thing, and not everything has to be a realistic, M-rated, action game. How about a colorful platformer for once? Why not another colorful, over-the-top, fighter like BlazBlue or Smash Bros. I'm not saying everything has to be super innovative and unique. But, balance out cartoons and color, with brown and grey. If the film industry can do this, why can't games?
Don't get me wrong, there are a few next gen games that interest me. KH3, Sunset Overdrive, Infamous Second Son, Uncharted 4, Rime, Nintendo games, and the many indie titles comming. So I'm not saying I have zero interest in next-generation, just a very limited interest. I think most of my gaming will be dedicated to Handhelds, downloadable, last gen and retro gaming for quite a while.
Colorful, innovative games don't produce money. It's all about the one popular brand for the non-Nintendo guys... ugh.
Also agree with you at the end. Smash Bros will keep me occupied as far as new releases go this year, otherwise my game library remains full and I need to finish with it before moving on.
I never said it has to necessarily be innovative, but it just has to be an enjoyable alternative to the norm. We need more Platformers that aren't indie games, fighters, and colorful games that can co-exist with the realism and maturity. Don't get me wrong, they don't have to stop making Assasin's Creeds, or Halos, or Tom Clancy's. I'm just asking for a balance, throwing in color isn't going to deem you childish.
Next gen is a complete fabrication. The graphics are like "10% percent", and the only new thing the consoles presented was better "sharing", because it's all about "sharing" today.
Japan got it right - that's why the PS4 is a total flop there.
The amount of fanboys in the west is pretty large though so they back the new consoles, but also not like before. I know many who haven't upgraded from their PS3's because they don't see the point, so the numbers as a whole are much smaller this time going forward.
Nintendo is the only company that tried something new... the graphics of course were a huge upgrade from the Wii and the GamePad I think is brilliant, but unfortunately did not really resonate with the public at this time, so you have a pretty somber picture.
Whenever I look at upcoming PS4 games, Nothing really screams "Next-Gen" to me. Aside from Indies, and the rare Japanese developed game, everything seems to be doing the same thing last gen did, pushing for realism and graphics and adult themes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, In fact, those games are more than welcome. But aside from indies, LBP3, and *lol*Knack, that's all there seems to be. Admitedly, this was kind of a problem with last generation. Thank god for Nintendo, handhelds, and indie games. Say what you will about them, but at least they're offering games beyond Hollywood production values.
Only time will tell, but I see what you're hinting at here. It doesn't look like PS4 and XboxOne will change a whole lot of what PS360 pulled off... though that's even more the case with XboxOne... essentially MS are going backwards in online efficiency from 360 because they don't seem to care much about their consumer base. Now, though PS4 will offer much of PS3's awesome exclusive lineup on download, my brother already has one, and Playstation TV is coming soon at a cheaper price which is great since it does exactly the same thing offering backwards compatibility. So, at least there are options for experienced gamers on a budget.
Look, Mature, realistic-looking games have their place, and I would hate to see them leave. But developers need to realize that balance is a good thing, and not everything has to be a realistic, M-rated, action game. How about a colorful platformer for once? Why not another colorful, over-the-top, fighter like BlazBlue or Smash Bros. I'm not saying everything has to be super innovative and unique. But, balance out cartoons and color, with brown and grey. If the film industry can do this, why can't games?
Don't get me wrong, there are a few next gen games that interest me. KH3, Sunset Overdrive, Infamous Second Son, Uncharted 4, Rime, Nintendo games, and the many indie titles comming. So I'm not saying I have zero interest in next-generation, just a very limited interest. I think most of my gaming will be dedicated to Handhelds, downloadable, last gen and retro gaming for quite a while.
Colorful, innovative games don't produce money. It's all about the one popular brand for the non-Nintendo guys... ugh.
Also agree with you at the end. Smash Bros will keep me occupied as far as new releases go this year, otherwise my game library remains full and I need to finish with it before moving on.
I never said it has to necessarily be innovative, but it just has to be an enjoyable alternative to the norm. We need more Platformers that aren't indie games, fighters, and colorful games that can co-exist with the realism and maturity. Don't get me wrong, they don't have to stop making Assasin's Creeds, or Halos, or Tom Clancy's. I'm just asking for a balance, throwing in color isn't going to deem you childish.
There is more than enough 2D Platformers - indie or retail.
There is a lack of 3D Platformers with much difficulty. (It needs a learning curve for it to be good in the end).
Loads of Fighting games as well Indie or Retail.
There is lots of stuff that there is not much of for retail games. But not those two genres.
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Next gen is a complete fabrication. The graphics are like "10% percent", and the only new thing the consoles presented was better "sharing", because it's all about "sharing" today.
Japan got it right - that's why the PS4 is a total flop there.
The amount of fanboys in the west is pretty large though so they back the new consoles, but also not like before. I know many who haven't upgraded from their PS3's because they don't see the point, so the numbers as a whole are much smaller this time going forward.
Nintendo is the only company that tried something new... the graphics of course were a huge upgrade from the Wii and the GamePad I think is brilliant, but unfortunately did not really resonate with the public at this time, so you have a pretty somber picture.
Well the Playstation 4 isn't doing well in Japan because the console desire is shirking in general for Japan and because the console is incredibly western. Like REALLY western and Japanese gamers isn't just gonna jump at every big Western game for PS4. They have different tastes and standards. That's the big downside to the Playstation 4 being so western. It sells amazing everywhere else except its home country. Luckily for Nintendo, Japan generally loves Nintendo's style of gaming which is why the Wii U picks up sells from time to time depending on the game.
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The PS3 had a slow start in Japan as well. Dunno why anybody expected any different this time. Two years from now if the situation is the same then maybe something has changed.
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Not everything is dull also your comments tell me you didn't look very hard for diversity on PS3 off the top of my head Puppeteer, (countless) Ratchet and Clank games, LBP games, The Unfinished Swan, Tokyo Jungle, Wonderbook: Book of Spells etc.
Some games that to me a very visually appealing but vibrant and not dull of gritty.
Also I don't care that Bloodborne is gritty and dark when it does it so well.
not ready to be judged since it's just begun, so much that it's still being called next gen when it technically is already current gen....
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Not everything is dull also your comments tell me you didn't look very hard for diversity on PS3 off the top of my head Puppeteer, (countless) Ratchet and Clank games, LBP games, The Unfinished Swan, Tokyo Jungle, Wonderbook: Book of Spells etc.
Some games that to me a very visually appealing but vibrant and not dull of gritty.
Also I don't care that Bloodborne is gritty and dark when it does it so well.
What's the name of that first game.
RIME.
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They think they're selling to the early Wii crowd of 7th gen, which we all know isn't happening, at least not to as much of an extent as they think. They want to sell to that crowd, because they need to appeal to more people besides PS fans. I don't get how they could think that, though, considering the games they are putting out are Killzone and Infamous.
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You guys are getting hung up on the whole "Next Gen" marketing buzz word that's flooded the gaming world in the last 18 months. Gaming doesn't evolve to some magical new state each gen, it is simply refined and on occasion expanded upon.
Its also worth noting that most of the hyped "next gen" games are actually, cross gen or started development as 7th gen. Don't expect to see true 8th gen developed games (outside of Nintendo), until 2015/2016.
I don't own an X1 so i can't talk about that but my PS4 & Wii U compliment my PC perfectly and are leaps and bounds above their predecessors and have tons of potential, time will tell if they can fulfil it.
Sometimes boring is the most business-savvy road to travel. Sometimes it’s a word that shouldn’t carry such negative connotation. If games are the most important thing to gamers, making things like the Kinect or the Wii U gamepad mandatory is a big mistake.
Nintendo should realize that gamers want the same stuff. though slightly upgraded (annually for games, 7 years for consoles).
3rd gen -> 4th gen : DEM 16bit!! Look at all those unseen colors and features that weren't possible in the 3rd gen!
4th gen ->5th gen: DEM 3D models!! Holy shizzles my nizzle! Look at those 3D games! 2Ds is OVAH!!
5th gen ->6th gen: OMG look at dem textures! We've never seen a game with such realistic faces and textures!! They have fingers now!! Polygons are OVAH!!
6th gen -> 7th gen: Wow look at those realistic and sharp graphics! HD gaming is just simply AWESOME!
7th gen -> 8th gen: Well at least we are getting more pixels right? No? Still 720p? Well at least we are getting better smoke particles.
3rd gen -> 4th gen : DEM 16bit!! Look at all those unseen colors and features that weren't possible in the 3rd gen!
4th gen ->5th gen: DEM 3D models!! Holy shizzles my nizzle! Look at those 3D games! 2Ds is OVAH!!
5th gen ->6th gen: OMG look at dem textures! We've never seen a game with such realistic faces and textures!! They have fingers now!! Polygons are OVAH!!
6th gen -> 7th gen: Wow look at those realistic and sharp graphics! HD gaming is just simply AWESOME!
7th gen -> 8th gen: oh the handhelds look more interesting than the home consoles!!!! but smartphones exist, dedicated gaming machines are OVAH!!!!
seriously, people say some really stupid stuff like this
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