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komicturtle

61. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 07:53 BST

They're changing things here and there from what I'm seeing... Anything noticed how 1337 spells out "leet"...? And it's targeted for people looking to work on games...

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62. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 11:21 BST

TwilightPoint wrote:

If it truly is open-source why do they need to send out SDK's?

Don't get me wrong, I don't know everything there is to know about all of this, but this is my interpretation of it, so I could be wrong. Android OS is open source and is an offshoot of Linux. The SDK in question is probably needed to help developer apps to be able to interact more cleanly with Ouya's overlay and at least partially due to the fact that Ouya is using Nvidia's Tegra 3 chip. From what I have gathered, Nvidia is generally unwilling to provide information to the open source community. Without the SDK, those who would be interested in programming with Tegra 3 in mind would likely need to reverse engineer the chip.

In other news, I just finished GTA3 100% on my Android tablet using my PS3 controller and something like the Ouya would've definitely made things a lot easier for the majority of Android users judging by the less than glowing reviews others had left about GTA3 on Google's Play Store.

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63. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 15:13 BST

Wow. $2.7 million. It raised almost another million while I was sleeping. o___o

@Usagi-san Android dev seems kind of weird. I think some Java is required, but if you jump through some hoops you can use C++ too.

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64. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 15:20 BST

sykotek wrote:

TwilightPoint wrote:

If it truly is open-source why do they need to send out SDK's?

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Don't get me wrong, I don't know everything there is to know about all of this, but this is my interpretation of it, so I could be wrong. Android OS is open source and is an offshoot of Linux. The SDK in question is probably needed to help developer apps to be able to interact more cleanly with Ouya's overlay and at least partially due to the fact that Ouya is using Nvidia's Tegra 3 chip. From what I have gathered, Nvidia is generally unwilling to provide information to the open source community. Without the SDK, those who would be interested in programming with Tegra 3 in mind would likely need to reverse engineer the chip.

That is very true.
Nvidia are awful when it comes to the Open Source community.
At least it's not sporting a chip that has optimus technology. shudders

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65. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 15:29 BST

I saw Minecraft... will the final console have Minecraft? :D

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pixelman

66. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 15:32 BST

If it's successful (lol) then Mojang said they "could see all of their games" on it.

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67. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 15:37 BST

@Ninty: Possibly, possibly not. Mojang has supported it with a nebulous commitment:

"Mojang has committed that Minecraft (and their other games) will be on OUYA — but only if we prove that we can make a great product (that’s our job) AND enough people want their games (that’s your job). Show them with your numbers that you want Minecraft on OUYA!"

Note that 'enough people' isn't defined and it's not clear how they 'prove that we can make a great product'.

Like I've said before, I really don't want to see people's money go to waste but I'm not confident that the Ouya people have the ability to manufacture a mass-market console. Julie Uhrman seems to have only ever dealt with software, and Yves Behar is a designer but I don't know if he's been involved with manufacturing. That doesn't instil me with confidence! We'll have to wait and see, I guess. I really see it making more of an impact in the gadget market than the games market.

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68. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 19:06 BST

$3 million. Looks like it's on track to surpass 4x its goal today. I wonder what they're going to do with all of this money, haha.

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69. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 19:17 BST

kyuubikid213 wrote:

I don't want to buy something that looks potentially good only for it to be like the Phantom, the N-Gage, Apple Pippin, R-Zone, or Gizmondo.

Wheels2050 wrote:

I really don't want to see people's money go to waste but I'm not confident that the Ouya people have the ability to manufacture a mass-market console.

You guys shouldn't be so nervous about taking risks with new consoles. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft were all new to console gaming at one point. Besides right now you can pledge $99 if you wanted to get an Ouya. That's not a huge risk for a gaming console. I spent that much money preordering Epic Mickey and Metroid Other M in 2010.

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70. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 19:32 BST

But that's 3 success stories out of how many?

Plus, Nintendo and Sony both had prior manufacturing experience. I don't see that anywhere with the Ouya group - not to mention they don't even have an official website. I really just think they might be in over their head.

This was an interesting read:

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/IanFisch/20120711/173901/OUYA_...

I don't agree with everything said, but a lot of good points are made.

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71. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 19:46 BST

Just filled in the what kind of games do you want to see survey, hope someone listens to the 2D scrolling beat'em suggestion more Streets of Rage/Golden Axe type games would be nice.

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72. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 20:03 BST

Finally a system for hackers!

Now they all can play online co-op and hack into each others accounts and use cheat codes all day. They can finally leave my console gaming alone...in theory anyways.

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73. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 20:03 BST

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/11/editorial-ouyas-success/

Editorial on ouyam

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74. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 20:05 BST

They should graciously donate the money they don't need to me :*

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75. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 20:41 BST

The more I read, the more... "unsettled" I get. I want to support, but how they are acting as if it's going to be the best console ever is keeping me from doing anything, and they are also acting as if there is no such thing as a handheld. Put a cheap price on it, the feeling of affordability is lowered when you consider a single controller costs $30. OUYA doesn't feel revolutionary, it feels like a "not half-bad" idea from a retro gamer, IMO, of course.

Edited on Wed 11th July, 2012 @ 20:41 by Supereor

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76. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 21:31 BST

LztheBlehBird wrote:

pixelman wrote:

Bobhobob wrote:

Where may I purchase one of these one of these wondrous machines?

In 2013.

Is 2013 a place?

I've visited it. Was nothing special.

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77. Posted: Wed 11th Jul 2012 23:42 BST

This is just brilliant! I'm seriously thinking about going ahead and purchasing it through Kickstarter. :)

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78. Posted: Thu 12th Jul 2012 01:49 BST

I've not pledged because I don't need something like this and I'm not too keen on Kickstarter, but I've been reading a lot that this could potentially be a real Kickstarter killer. With the overwhelming demand being shown by those pledging, if the people running don't deliver...and I'm not talking about hardware, but delivery on expectations, it could really kill support for future Kickstarters.

Just something to keep in mind for many of you who are pledging...manage your expectations and try not have inflated ideas about this beyond being anything except cheap hardware. I own a gTab, rest assured if there are enough Ouya units released, there will definitely be support from the hacker/modder/enthusiast community that will last regardless of whether the proposed service will be there to back it up or not...that's the real beauty of this program.

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79. Posted: Thu 12th Jul 2012 02:55 BST

I'll wait to see (1) if this thing ever actually gets made , (2) it ever actually gets released , (3) it withstands the potential legal challenges it may face, (4) it gets support that goes beyond enthusiastic tweets from indie developers who's stuff is already available on PC, and (5) is actually even halfway worthwile.

Edited on Thu 12th July, 2012 @ 02:56 by the_shpydar

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80. Posted: Thu 12th Jul 2012 03:13 BST

sykotek wrote:

I've not pledged because I don't need something like this and I'm not too keen on Kickstarter, but I've been reading a lot that this could potentially be a real Kickstarter killer. With the overwhelming demand being shown by those pledging, if the people running don't deliver...and I'm not talking about hardware, but delivery on expectations, it could really kill support for future Kickstarters.

Just something to keep in mind for many of you who are pledging...manage your expectations and try not have inflated ideas about this beyond being anything except cheap hardware. I own a gTab, rest assured if there are enough Ouya units released, there will definitely be support from the hacker/modder/enthusiast community that will last regardless of whether the proposed service will be there to back it up or not...that's the real beauty of this program.

Kinda like the Phantom Game System back in 2004- so many people invested in it, and the folks kinda ran away with the money...

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