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I wouldn't doubt that he is, but Grey Fox helped Snake and not Liquid in MGS1. Big Boss' goal was basically the same as Liquids, so maybe they really were true friends since Grey Fox knew when to stop him? Who knows...
Master Miller WAS Liquid as an imposter too, and they both communicated through CODEC.

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No, Liquid disguised himself as Master to get Solid to put in the detonation codes.

I understand, but if Gray Fox is Master Miller, then it would make sense why he trusted both imposter Master Miller, and 'Deepthroat'. In otherwords, he trusted the same entity.
I think Master Miller may even be related to Bigg Boss. It doesn't say that, though.
The main characters of the game are always the same. Even Ocelot had his arm mutilated in MGS1. I would think that the weird looking guy (not red hair) is Psyco Mantis.
It wouldn't be surprising that there will ton of characters from the series present, even Solidus.

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Kojima's style is charmingly ridiculous. I must do everything in my power to acquire a Sony platform and catch up on the series before Metal Gear Solid V hits.

Join the club. I have yet to beaten a MGS game even though I pretty much own all the important ones. I came REAL close to beating MGS3 ages ago...

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Knux wrote:

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Kojima's style is charmingly ridiculous. I must do everything in my power to acquire a Sony platform and catch up on the series before Metal Gear Solid V hits.

Join the club. I have yet to beaten a MGS game even though I pretty much own all the important ones. I came REAL close to beating MGS3 ages ago...

Ugh, I was THIS close to quitting MGS3 near the end, the gameplay was just that bad imo. But the story definitely made it worthwhile in the end though. (MGS3 is the only one I've really played btw :$ )

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Ugh, I was THIS close to quitting MGS3 near the end, the gameplay was just that bad imo. But the story definitely made it worthwhile in the end though. (MGS3 is the only one I've really played btw :$ )

MGS3's gameplay was great, but the difficulty spike near the end of the game made me rage quit (which I have regretted ever since).

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Ugh, I was THIS close to quitting MGS3 near the end, the gameplay was just that bad imo. But the story definitely made it worthwhile in the end though. (MGS3 is the only one I've really played btw :$ )

MGS3's gameplay was great, but the difficulty spike near the end of the game made me rage quit (which I have regretted ever since).

I loved the normal sneaking gameplay, and the way the buttons on the PS2 work for all the different functions was amazing. The part I hated was the turret sequences near the end. And that final boss fight. >_>

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MGS3 and a peace Walker are the most fun in the series. I loved the setting for 3.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I understand, but if Gray Fox is Master Miller, then it would make sense why he trusted both imposter Master Miller, and 'Deepthroat'. In otherwords, he trusted the same entity.
I think Master Miller may even be related to Bigg Boss. It doesn't say that, though.
The main characters of the game are always the same. Even Ocelot had his arm mutilated in MGS1.
It wouldn't be surprising that there will ton of characters from the series present, even Solidus.

No, Gray Fox and Master Miller are two entirely different people. Also, no, Miller and Big Boss are not related. Just really good friends.

Plus, everyone who says Solidus is going to be in V are completely unaware of the storyline (or have never played 1). If V takes place in the 80s, Solid, Liquid and Solidus are still only kids. Sure, one of them might be in it, but unless Kojima makes their character important somehow, no, I doubt they'll be involved let alone have a major impact. (Just because Solidus is "old" in 2009, doesn't mean he's "old" in the 80s.)

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Ugh, I was THIS close to quitting MGS3 near the end, the gameplay was just that bad imo. But the story definitely made it worthwhile in the end though. (MGS3 is the only one I've really played btw :$ )

You should be excited for 4, then. Not only are the graphics, music, set pieces, pacing, characters, bosses, weapon variety, replay value, and charm, of a higher caliber than 3, but the gameplay is the best in the entire series to date.

Seriously, it's one of those games where if something goes wrong, it's your fault. lol

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i would be getting more into the MGS series, but most of the games are on PlayStation, a console i do NOT own. D: i've only played the NES game, twin snakes and the 3DS game D:

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I beat MGS3 on 3DS and had no problems with the gameplay. For me, the game's few flaws all stemmed from pacing issues.

Anyway, if Chrono is right and it's really the worst one in the series, I'm really in for a treat when I finally get to the rest of it.

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70. Posted:

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Plus, everyone who says Solidus is going to be in V are completely unaware of the storyline (or have never played 1). If V takes place in the 80s, Solid, Liquid and Solidus are still only kids. Sure, one of them might be in it, but unless Kojima makes their character important somehow, no, I doubt they'll be involved let alone have a major impact. (Just because Solidus is "old" in 2009, doesn't mean he's "old" in the 80s.)

But we don't know when Solidus's advanced aging began to kick in. I always thought that he went through accelerated aging all throughout his life, meaning he could have looked like he was in his early 20s at the time of MGSV. I don't think he'll be in the game, but not because he's technically a child.

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Anyway, if Chrono is right and it's really the worst one in the series, I'm really in for a treat when I finally get to the rest of it.

Well, he's free to have his opinions, but MGS3 is generally regarded as the fan favorite.

I'm gonna stick with that they're all equally good and I definitely don't think 1 and 2 are BETTER than 3.

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I thought MGS3 was better than 1 myself. The camo, tactics, espionage action, and enhanced CQC were overall better. The environments were more impressive than even 4 IMO. They're all good, but I don't think I'd even be able to stand playing MGS on PS1. It was WAY better on GCN.

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Wasn't too into 1, had it for my cube, it was decent, but not my cup of tea. I loved 3 on 3ds though, excellent, excellent everything. Never got too into solid's or raiden's adventures, but big boss is the man. :3

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never played mgs on gamecube but i have seen that they changed some (or all?) cutscence in the game. they made the game look ridiculous and over the top. the cutscenes on mgs for psx were way better.
mgs3 was cool but not as great as mgs1 and 2 IMO

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74. Posted:

Swiket wrote:

But we don't know when Solidus's advanced aging began to kick in. I always thought that he went through accelerated aging all throughout his life, meaning he could have looked like he was in his early 20s at the time of MGSV. I don't think he'll be in the game, but not because he's technically a child.

Kojima has a lot of catching up to do. The only clone I could see making an appearance is Solid but even then, David Hayter isn't voicing any characters, we don't know exactly where the game leaves off, we don't know where it precisely begins and we definitely have no idea how Big Boss meets his children.

There's just too many plot holes to begin guessing possibilities.

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75. Posted:

This looks like it takes place before the NES ones, and after Snake Eater(obviously), but the trailer hasn't shown much in terms of story links between the titles.

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SCAR392 wrote:

This looks like it takes place before the NES ones, and after Snake Eater(obviously), but the trailer hasn't shown much in terms of story links between the titles.

From the Ground Zeroes trailer, it's pretty obvious that it takes place shortly after Peace Walker. And TPP is nine years after that.

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77. Posted:

anybody notice that most other game sequels are marked with a number (MGS 2, etc.) well, this one has a ROMAN number at the end! MGS The Phantom Pain V.

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anybody notice that most other game sequels are marked with a number (MGS 2, etc.) well, this one has a ROMAN number at the end! MGS The Phantom Pain V.

Final Fantasy, Soulcalibur, Kingdom Hearts, Street Fighter, the King of Fighters, Etrian Odyssey, & Dragon Quest all use Roman numerals.

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0SP_ZELDAiii wrote:

anybody notice that most other game sequels are marked with a number (MGS 2, etc.) well, this one has a ROMAN number at the end! MGS The Phantom Pain V.

You do make a good point there. I've actually heard other say it might come to Vita, but that was before we knew it was literally the same game as Ground Zeroes, so now we're out of ideas. :(

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At the end someone says "V has come to." Or something, so it probably has double meaning.

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