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CharlieRod

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Hey my family was thinking about getting a PS3 slim and I was wondering if it is backwards compatible with PS2 games and that sort of thing. I know this has been asked before and people said it was but I did some resarch or whatever and saw that it wasn't on some other sites like Famitsu. This won't keep us from buying one if we are going to get one but I really liked alot of the PS2/1 games. I know I can buy some games on the PS Network. Also, I was wondering if the PSP Go is worth it even though it is UMD less and stuff. I think I'm starting to really like Sony's stuff because of all the features so don't give me dumb answers or say that I'm dumb because I'm seriously just curious.

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Help?

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madgear

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Nope the PS3 slim is not backwards compatible with PS2 games but it is with PS1 games. The only PlayStation 3 models that are fully backwards compatible are the original Japanese and US launch systems. Following models reatained some PS2 backwards compatability (using emulation) but now it looks like PS2 compatability has been completely removed. It's a shame because I would have bought a PS3 if it was fully backwards compatible (well and a bit cheaper mind).

I've also heard bad things about the PSP Go - I've read online that even retailers are writing it off before it has even launched. If I was going for a PSP I'd get one that lets you play UMDs games.

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CharlieRod

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Thanks MadGear:) They could update it right?, because I really wanted to buy Metal Gear Solid 3 and maybe 2 along with a few other games that I missed out on. And maybe the PSP Go just needs some time to be a for sure thing with the DLC because if they did make a system that was like that and it was loaded with all the stuff I want to play I would get it right off the bat.

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I don't think it's on the cards. Infact not sure if it's even possible on the PS2 slim since they said PS2 backwards compatibility has been completely removed. Best thing I can suggest is to get an older PS3 model - and if you're in the US get one of the early models that play all PS2 games.

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CharlieRod

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Ah no it's not that big of a deal. I guess I would rather have the slim because of the fact that it's slim and it's got a bigger harddrive I think. I'm not even enetirely expecting a PS3, it's just an extra if my parents decide to purchase one for the main reason being a blu-ray player, and the other stuff just because it's more worth it getting a PS3 since it has all those other things over a run-of-the mill blu-ray player.

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DarkG

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PS3 Slim also lacks the ability to install Linux, and since the hardrive can be easily replaced by any laptop HDD, don't take the HDD as part of your purchase decision... I would recommend a normal PS3 over the slim if you wanna get a PS3 in the first place...

Also, stay away from the PSP Go, for that price, it's a ripoff... a PSP-3000 can do the same, and more (UMD Drive!) for less money... you can get a PSP-3000 with a game, and a PSN voucher for around $200, and an 8 GB SanDisk Gaming Memory Stick PRO Duo for $40, that's $240 for a system with 2 games and 8 GB storage... cheaper than a $250 Go without games, and that lacks a UMD drive...

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CharlieRod

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Alright. I could probably try to find a used first version PS3 and it would probably be cheaper than a brand new one. And I know nothing of what the big deal of Linux is and I don't mess with Hdd and other things like that so i wouldn't want to risk it.
As for the PSP Go, I think it's a good idea to have a DLC based system, besides right now everyone doesn't think it could be successful because of the transition from discs or any type of physical substance containing the games to a virtual data placed on a memory of some sort. Thanks for the info DarkG:) What games do you have for PS3?

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the problem with the PSP Go is, that you can buy the digital version of the games from previous PSP models too, they aren't exclusive to the PSP Go... that's why the Go is such a ripoff, they charge customers more, for less... I'm personally a big supporter of digital distribution, because I love how much it harms piracy (4 years and still no sign of Xbox LIVE Arcade piracy or anything :D), but the PSP Go is an unnecesary piece of hardware, a ripoff for old and new PSP customers alike.

The big deal of Linux is that you are essentially getting an extra computer, multimedia server or whatever you wanna do with it... it's just extra functionality that Sony stupidly enough removed from the Slim...

Changing the HDD of a PS3 is no big deal, the how-to process is even explained in the user manual, and online at Sony's webpage... it doesn't void your warranty and physically damaging an HDD is not an easy task lol

For PS3, I have LittleBigPlanet, Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty, Rag Doll Kung Fu (got it when it was free lol), and a couple of PSOne Classics shared with my PSP (Crash Bandicoot 1, 2, 3 and Spyro the Dragon)

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CharlieRod

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Cool. Ya I just went to GameStop.com and they're selling the fat version for like $70 or $30 dollars cheaper used with all the good stuff so we'll probably get that. If they had the Go as the same price as the normal ones I would buy it and download all the games i want.

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castlehominid99

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Get a go there is 16gb memory and you get a free rockband unplugged which would beonly 130 without anything

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Nintendork

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PS3 seems awesome (now that I can actually purchase it), but the Go is a piece of junk (compared to the 3000, it's still a very nice piece of hardware however).

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DarkG

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castlehominid99 wrote:

Get a go there is 16gb memory and you get a free rockband unplugged which would beonly 130 without anything

Wrong, just looked up a couple of online stores, and all of them have the PSP Go for $249.99 without any games...

Also, for those that like options, I haven't trued, but saw this microSD to Memory Stick PRO Duo adapter the other day... it has 2 slots for microSDs (up to 16 GB per slot said the box) and it also said it was compatible with the PSP... since microSDs are faster than the Memory Stick standard, there shouldn't be any speed issues (unless you get a counterfeit microSD...), and you could get 32 GB of storage for around $70... so a brand new PSP with 2 games ($199.99) + 32 GB "MSPD" ($70) would be almost the same price as a PSP Go without games... the Go is still a ripoff lol

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NO it isn't it comes with 16gb and a rockband unplugged voucher and you get a much nicer look and feel and it is much smaller so it is an amazing deal if you think about it. Where can you get 2 games with psp 3000 for 200 you get one game a movie and 2gb for 200 a ripoff indeed if you compare it to the go

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DarkG

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castlehominid99 wrote:

NO it isn't it comes with 16gb and a rockband unplugged voucher and you get a much nicer look and feel and it is much smaller so it is an amazing deal if you think about it. Where can you get 2 games with psp 3000 for 200 you get one game a movie and 2gb for 200 a ripoff indeed if you compare it to the go

My PSP-2000 came with 2 games (1 UMD, 1 Downloadable), 1 UMD Movie and no Memory Stick. If you get a used PSP, you can get all that for around $150... a new PSP is anywhere between $170 and $200...

Here: http://www.amazon.com/PSP-3000-Limited-Unplugged-Entertainmen...

A PSP-3000 + Rockband on UMD + Downloadable Movie + 2 GB Memory Stick for $200
you can sell the MSPD for, say $20 on eBay, and get one of these: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDMSG-8192-A11-Gaming-Memory-St...

So, a PSP-3000 + Rockband on UMD + Downloadable Movie + 8 GB Memory Stick for $200 - $20 + $31.26 = $211.26

You might also be able to sell the Movie download ticket, but that's harder to sell... you still save $38.74 by getting a PSP-3000 instead of being ripped off by getting a Go... you can use those $38.74 to get 2 or more UMD games, and have a lot more fun with the same money :)

And all that, without taking into account the microSD to MSPD tool I talked about, that can get you a 16 GB MSPD for cheaper... or this: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Memory-memory-Packaging-SDMSPD-...

No matter how you look at it, the PSP Go is a ripoff

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You actually get 16 gb built in and you can add more

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DarkG wrote:

And all that, without taking into account the microSD to MSPD tool I talked about, that can get you a 32 GB MSPD for cheaper...

No matter how you look at it, the PSP Go is a ripoff

I meant 32 GB, by adding 2 16 GB microSD cards... that is, if anyone needs that much memory anyway... because with a PSP-3000 you can buy your games cheaper on UMD, sell them when you no longer want them, and don't need all that Memory (but if you still need it, is still cheaper to add it later rather than getting a PSP Go)

castlehominid99, you got ripped off by Sony, don't help others make the same mistake lol, I know you're just trying to convince yourself the Go is worth the money, when it clearly isn't.

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CharlieRod

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Great discussion while I'm gone. I see the benefits of both systems and all that but I saw a deal somewhere where the PSP Go is $200 at Fry's Electronics I think, and downloading games without the UMD's sounds alot better than switching them out all the time, and running out of space wouldn't be an issue if I could still put Memory sticks in which I think is still possible with the Go.

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Also the only thing I saw that was wrong with the Go and every other PSP was that they weren't that durable or whatever, but thats just alot from what I heard and not personal experience. I take care of my stuff pretty well anyway so I don't see that being an issue.

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CharlieRod

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I just checked Fry's for Colorado and it is the normal price. I think it was for another state because I'm pretty sure I saw something about it on Joystiq, or it could have been a day sale or something. Sorry for the misleading info...

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