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Artwark

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So let's quarrel over why these devs matter a LOT and which do you usually prefer.

I'll start by saying that I prefer First party and second party games over third because third parties for the most part don't make games as great as first party and second party and even then, the game won't last being exclusive for very long. First party games are guaranteed that you will enjoy them and that the quality never disappoints (ok maybe at rare times but still the quality is there). They give a good reason as to why you should purchase that product because it was made for that product. The same can be said for second party as well.

What matters to me of course is third party games. I actually do play third party games I'm not saying that I don't. But if they can atleast make efforts into having the habit of making finished games, minor patches and not being lazy, then they can be just as good as first and second party games. Problem is these devs want money so they'll do whatever they can to port their games to make more money which is while pleasing to many, just ruins the exclusive point.

Quality is also another problem with these devs because you usually don't know what you're getting at in the end.

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4th party

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Geonjaha

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On what platform? First Party depends on what platform you're talking about. I bought my Wii U for Nintendo games (because Nintendo have been terrible at getting support from third parties - that they need), but I wouldn't say that Nintendo's £30 games are always better than third parties; there are plenty of bad games from Nintendo, especially recently cough Any NSMB game, Sticker Star, Yoshi's New Island, Mario Party 3DS cough.

As long as you research any game before you buy it (And not just buy it because it's from Nintendo - hur dur), then you'll be well informed as to what it is you're buying. I don't play third party games on the Wii U much at all, because I play all of those on PC. On the Wii U most of the best games are first party - and that's a failure for Nintendo, not a success.

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Artwark

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@Geonjaha like I said, first party games rarely disappoint. NSMB games while repetitive are still fun and yes games like Sticker Star do disappoint but not by a LOT. The Wii U has MK8 and Smash so keep that in mind.

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SpookyMeths

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This is so general that there's no way you could answer properly.

And honestly, some 3rd parties have done a better job at implementing the Gamepad's second screen than Nintendo has, so being 1st party and knowing the hardware obviously doesn't grant any advantage.

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MAB

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@CaviarMeths Yeah, just like now I'm going through a hardcore run on the D4L version of Deus Ex... A quality 3rd party title that uses the Gamepad effectively like ZombiU ;)

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Dreamz

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I bought my Wii U primarily for 1st party games. Metroid and Zelda are two of my favorite franchises. However, currently most of my library is from 3rd party - Wonderful101, ZombiU, Child of Light, etc. 1st/2nd/3rd matters less to me than the games themselves, I suppose.

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Action51

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Business in the front, first party in the back!

Seriously, you can't broad brush first party, third party etc. like that. Nintendo makes amazing first party games like Zelda, but they also made Wii Music...

You just have to look at each developer and each game individually and base your opinion on the merits of the final product.

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I like good games, regardless of who makes them.

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Artwark wrote:

Problem is these devs want money so they'll do whatever they can to port their games to make more money which is while pleasing to many, just ruins the exclusive point.

I have some shocking information for you. Make sure you're sitting down. Are you ready? Ok..... do you know why Nintendo exists? To make money!
ALL companies exist to make money.
And why is it so wrong for a game to be multi-platform? A fun game is a fun game regardless of who made it and regardless on how many systems its released on.

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Artwark

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BinaryFragger wrote:

Artwark wrote:

Problem is these devs want money so they'll do whatever they can to port their games to make more money which is while pleasing to many, just ruins the exclusive point.

I have some shocking information for you. Make sure you're sitting down. Are you ready? Ok..... do you know why Nintendo exists? To make money!
ALL companies exist to make money.
And why is it so wrong for a game to be multi-platform? A fun game is a fun game regardless of who made it and regardless on how many systems its released on.

But exclusive games make a good reason on why people should spend on the product rather than it being multiplat.

@CaviarMeths That's because they still have yet to make more games for the system. The next Zelda will surely be a blast with the gamepad in mind.

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BinaryFragger wrote:

Artwark wrote:

Problem is these devs want money so they'll do whatever they can to port their games to make more money which is while pleasing to many, just ruins the exclusive point.

I have some shocking information for you. Make sure you're sitting down. Are you ready? Ok..... do you know why Nintendo exists? To make money!
ALL companies exist to make money.
And why is it so wrong for a game to be multi-platform? A fun game is a fun game regardless of who made it and regardless on how many systems its released on.

It would be fine presuming that on every platform the quality is as good a 1st or 2nd party game would be.

Even Dreamcast/Gamecube/Xbox the quality of the ports was so much better. (Now most of them barely work).

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The vast majority of the games I play are 3rd party, and most of my favourite games (Regardless of system) are all third party. The apathy a lot of Nintendo players have towards 3rd parties really disappoints me.

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Most of the games I play are from 3rd parties since they make up the vast majority of the industry and I'm more interested in what they offer. I do not like Microsoft's 1st party studios and there's only a few Sony 1st party studios I follow. Nintendo has the best 1st party games but I've kind of grown tired of a lot of their franchises over the years.

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Artwark

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Its really surprising how much of third party games a LOT of people prefer over first party even though majority of them are mediocre at best.

Seriously though, if its one thing that First and Second Party don't disappoint on, its quality and companies like SEGA just can't be trusted anymore (Atleast for Sonic).

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Kodeen

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Artwark wrote:

Its really surprising how much of third party games a LOT of people prefer over first party even though majority of them are mediocre at best.

Seriously though, if its one thing that First and Second Party don't disappoint on, its quality and companies like SEGA just can't be trusted anymore (Atleast for Sonic).

The reason you find it so surprising is that you think third party games are mediocre at best, which is simply wrong. There are a ton of great games out there made by third parties, you just don't like them.

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