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Dezzy

Anyone see the new trailer? I thought it was incredible. Although I think the graphical quality put a very definite nail in coffin of a potential Wii U port.

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It interuppted my Youtube video, so now i am forever sworn to hate it

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kkslider5552000

Don't get excited. At least not until the demo. It does not matter how much quality they show off, I can't trust them after XIII.

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derek_combatir

I really don't give a sh.. about that game anymore...

honestly... it's been so many years....

EDIT: however, I must admit the game looks awesome (putting a stop to my sandstorm)

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Jazzer94

Phew I thought this was the second coming of the other thread, yeah it looks good can't wait to try the demo that lasts 4hrs.

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A lot of games look incredible and play like crap. Case in point: Final Fantasy XIII.

I will not have interest in this game

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Dezzy

Haha quite the reception.

Well the open world and the actual world design both look excellent. The combat looks good. The other 2 main ingredients are probably the characters and story, something they've struggled with in the last decade.
Apparently it's an all-male cast. Interesting direction to take it in. I do like the idea that it's a sort of road trip story.

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CaviarMeths

My thoughts on the trailer was that the openness is a step in the right direction, but the character designs and writing were pretty terrible.

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Jacob717

It can still come to the Wii U.

They used this to put Dragon Quest X on the 3DS, so they can use this to put FF15 on the Wii U.

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Jazzer94 wrote:

Phew I thought this was the second coming of the other thread, yeah it looks good can't wait to try the demo that lasts 4hrs.

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Dezzy

CaviarMeths wrote:

My thoughts on the trailer was that the openness is a step in the right direction, but the character designs and writing were pretty terrible.

Lololol you discerned the quality of the writing based on about 7 random sentences taken out of context?
I agree on the characters though, I think Nomura has outlived his welcome at Squenix. But then again, the FFX characters look terrible but they ended up being my favourite cast.

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CanisWolfred

Yeah, trailer looks great. Hoping the game plays great, too. But it's from the Kingdom Hearts guy, so I'm sure it will. Maybe not be as flowy as KH, but still. Looking forward to the demo.

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CaviarMeths

Dezzy wrote:

CaviarMeths wrote:

My thoughts on the trailer was that the openness is a step in the right direction, but the character designs and writing were pretty terrible.

Lololol you discerned the quality of the writing based on about 7 random sentences taken out of context?

Yes.

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CanisWolfred

I've never really been concerned with the story in FF games. I don't think I'd be able to play them otherwise. I think FF9 had the best story, but even then it wasn't really special, it's just that it had naunce - something the rest of the franchise is seriously lacking. That said, I can't think of an one where the story was so bad I stopped enjoying the gameplay. Even FF8 and 13-2 were immensely fun, despite the story making absolutely no sense and being heavily inconsistant. So as long as its fun to play, that's all I'm really caring about here.

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Dezzy

CanisWolfred wrote:

I've never really been concerned with the story in FF games. I don't think I'd be able to play them otherwise. I think FF9 had the best story, but even then it wasn't really special, it's just that it had naunce - something the rest of the franchise is seriously lacking. That said, I can't think of an one where the story was so bad I stopped enjoying the gameplay. Even FF8 and 13-2 were immensely fun, despite the story making absolutely no sense and being heavily inconsistant. So as long as its fun to play, that's all I'm really caring about here.

Haha the FF8 story was written by the same 15-year-old-son-on-work-experience whose dad then worked on Mass Effect 3.

But hold on, the rest of the franchise is lacking? Man, the rest of gaming is utterly hideous then! I thought 6,7,9 and 10 were all excellent stories.

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CaviarMeths

Dezzy wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I've never really been concerned with the story in FF games. I don't think I'd be able to play them otherwise. I think FF9 had the best story, but even then it wasn't really special, it's just that it had naunce - something the rest of the franchise is seriously lacking. That said, I can't think of an one where the story was so bad I stopped enjoying the gameplay. Even FF8 and 13-2 were immensely fun, despite the story making absolutely no sense and being heavily inconsistant. So as long as its fun to play, that's all I'm really caring about here.

Haha the FF8 story was written by the same 15-year-old-son-on-work-experience whose dad then worked on Mass Effect 3.

But hold on, the rest of the franchise is lacking? Man, the rest of gaming is utterly hideous then! I thought 6,7,9 and 10 were all excellent stories.

Hmm there are pieces of all that work really well, but the writing itself is spotty and there are problems. For example, the plot of FF7 makes no dang sense at all. Try to explain that crap to someone who has never played the game before and not sound like a whack job (I love the game, for the record). And then FFX is one of the greatest exercises in wangst of all time.

I agree with Canis that writing isn't really the strong point of a Final Fantasy game, but these days, story is quite important to me, or at least emotionally connecting with the characters is.

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CanisWolfred

Most of it, yeah. Outside of Mass Effect, SMT, Shadow of the Collossus, To The Moon, and a few other games here and there, I can't think of many games where I found myself going "That was a really good story!" without the addendum "...for a video game".

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kkslider5552000

I like a few FF stories, but going anime was always a bad choice for the genre. It exposes how worse it is compared to anime because even most of the best JRPGs can't get the level of character and story development of a truly great anime, and it has to be almost entirely linear to get anywhere close. That's why some of my favorite game stories are like 80% story, because they don't have to worry about gameplay so much.

Probably also because you don't need good characters and story in a video game. I mean, Mirror's Edge is still good despite having a worthless story.

That being said, I would never buy an RPG unless I thought it would have a good story. I have most other genres for gameplay, and RPGs more and more are just action games with numbers nowadays anyway.

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Dezzy

CaviarMeths wrote:

Hmm there are pieces of all that work really well, but the writing itself is spotty and there are problems. For example, the plot of FF7 makes no dang sense at all. Try to explain that crap to someone who has never played the game before and not sound like a whack job (I love the game, for the record). And then FFX is one of the greatest exercises in wangst of all time.

Ok well I thought FF7 made sense. Which bit didn't you get? Obviously explaining it isn't easy because it's such a complicated story.
And I'd never heard of wangst before. Which part is wangsty? Tidus?

I think the point is that there are various aspects to good writing. 1 is just the general plot. Ok, most of the final fantasy plots are weird, occasionally nonsensical, and often contrived in the final 3rd.
But then there's how well it's presented, the pace, dialog and character interaction. I think most Final Fantasies are excellent in this respect.

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