Topic: Fallout 4

Man, you're strange.

'Fallout 4 isn't buggy!'

Along comes somebody who shows you that it definitely is.

'Oh, definition of zeitgeist, blah, blah, blah, YEAH I WAS WRONG OKAY!'

It's like you cannot even back up your silly claims in the first place; 'Fallout 4 looks better than MGSV' and other such nonsense.

Probably for the best to ignore you on this one, from here on.

There are no bugs in Bethesda games. It's just people hearing from other people that there are bugs in those games, then when asked if they encountered any, they make up some just to fit in.

@Haru17: What platforms did you play those games on? I played Arkham Asylum on 360 and FC4 on PS4 and didn't encounter a single noticeable bug in either game.

PS4, of course—I'm not made of money. And I only played Arkham Knight, not Asylum.

You can see where there might be a bit of confusion.

It's funny how people act like bugs are a big deal. Bugs are bound to happen, and it's hard to monitor every single little place in a game. Sometimes things change after you add a new area, or do something completely unrelated towards the place the bug was created. No one complains about the glitches in Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. No one complains about the glitches in Pokemon Red and Blue. This is just all sensationalism hogwash.

If the bugs are significant, then yes they are a big deal. The glitches in Red and Blue are insignificant, they are only triggered under very specific circumstances. I'm aware glitches exist in OoT & MM, haven't encountered any of them.

Playing games on an expensive modern gen game console means you're not made of money?

Well, you said Asylum, but the same is true of AK for me (which I also played on PS4). I don't recall any major glitches during my playthrough (some of the riddle markers were a bit weird on my in-game map, but that's about it. The riddles themselves weren't bugged at all. And my game never crashed.). Doesn't mean other people don't experience them, of course: it just means I'm lucky with regard to that game. Kind of like how you're lucky with regard to Fallout 4 and its bugs.

@BlatantlyHeroic: Bethesda tends to have CTD bugs or bugs that break the game (Esbern's speech files not being un packed which causes him no to speak...which makes it so that you can't go further in the main game without console commands) that doesn't include the various random issues, lips upside down in fallout 3 and new vegas, falling through floors (every bethesda game ive ever played so Morrowind on..) animation bugs (Lydia was assigned the male movement animation). There are a few no face ones as well but not as bad AC Unity shudder. Bugs are a big deal because one does expect a finished product. Yes day one patches are a thing however not everyone has internet bandwidth speed for and quite frankly you shouldn't have to run a patch day one. Not saying that a game should be 100% bug free because that isnt possible but the majority of the game breaking bugs should be ironed out. If you keep up with the bug fix logs in addition to the unofficial bug fix logs , Bethesda is a little much. I say this as a big Bethesda fan. I average about 1000 hours per game and multiple saves and I play on rigs that are above the recommend specs. I tend to have a smooth experience most of the time but yeah I've gone hundreds of hours in and gotten game breaking bugs....I've had to restart Skyrim twice due to that.

As I've been playing, I kind of get sucked into the atmosphere of everything. I try to piece together what happened at certain locations and what was going on at certain parts before the war. The problem is we never get to see what these locations were like in the Fallout universe before the war. Would have loved to look around the map pre-war just to see how things used to be, but the only place we can do that with is Sanctuary. Maybe a new Fallout can be like OoT and have you jumping back and forth between pre- and post- war. Well, a whole game like this might be a bit much, maybe a DLC or a quest where you get to do this with one or a few specific locations.

This game is OK, but I don't think I like it as much as Fallout 3 so far. The town building aspect is unfortunately kind of boring. I do like having the ability to mod my weapons, though.