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shingi_70

21. Posted:

Through the power of the mutliverse, or the fact that these games are made by different teams.

The timelines go as

Modern warfare an dots sequls
Black ops and black ops 2
Ghosts
Advanced warfare

Think Final Fantasy or any comic universe. We don't complain that The Batman from the Nolan films isn't the same as the Adam West Variant.

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Kodeen wrote:

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How did these different universes form? The plots are only relevant if that question is answered. I was under the impression that they were all part of the same story, especially since thinga are always somehow getting worse from entry to entry.

Now I haven't played any of these games, but wouldn't things getting worse from game to game imply that either the soldiers are bad at their jobs, or at the very least ineffectual?

Yes. Watch the trailer, he's talking about how the U.S. wants countries to have a democracy. The U.S. isn't reckless enough to start a war over forms of governments, in this day and age, so it's not that believable.

In otherwords, why fight a pointless war?

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I'm fine with alternative universes, but there still needs to be an explanation of why those universes exist.

CoD takes place in alternate realities. Fine, but now there needs to be an explanation of why these alternate realities exist.

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SCAR392 wrote:

I'm fine with alternative universes, but there still needs to be an explanation of why those universes exist.

CoD takes place in alternate realities. Fine, but now there needs to be an explanation of why these alternate realities exist.

Because Activision likes to make money?

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Well we could say the same thing about the War in Iraq and Afgantistan were we for the most part fighting allies we armed in the late 80s/early 90s for democracy.

Plus the hook of the game is that your in a PMC so your not fighting for the US but who has the biggest paycheck. Than at the end of the day Call of Duty is just the Modern Day red dawn.

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26. Posted:

Kodeen wrote:

If you want an FPS to look forward to (back on), it should be this one:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/02/no-one-lives-forev...

I didn't find that one too fun. The AI sucked, the levels went on too long, and it forced Stealth, which always sucks when it comes to FPSes. Unless I'm thinking of the sequel...

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I think the series has been established as "Alternate universe" ever since Call of Duty 4 took us to a fictional country and set off nukes...

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I just don't think the game's plot is clear enough. They could even make a timeline where things vary. These alternate realities didn't really exist as flashed out as they could be, because there really isn't that much difference between the games.

CoD Black Ops could have lead to Ghosts. Black Ops II could have lead to Advanced Warfare, Morder Warefare II could have lead to Black Ops II, etc, That's partially why I'm confused, because these games aren't different enough to be assigned entirely different universes.

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I wouldn't think too hard about it SCAR. Storywise, they jumped off the deepend when they started copying Michael Bay tropes in World at War. By Black Ops 2, I don't think they even expected you to play the story mode. Would be nice if this coming game tried to have a stronger story, and featuring it in the initial reveal helps, but I'm still not totally convinced. Mostly I'm banking on my brother getting it so I can play the singleplayer down the road.

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30. Posted:

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I can tell. I just figured they were all part of the same thing, but the story is actually worse if they can't find a way to tie them together. Seriously, the only reason why this game is set in another universe, is because it has a freaking hover bike.

A hover bike is an entirely different universe? Ya, right.

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SCAR392 wrote:

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I can tell. I just figured they were all part of the same thing, but the story is actually worse if they can't find a way to tie them together. Seriously, the only reason why this game is set in another universe, is because it has a freaking hover bike.

A hover bike is an entirely different universe? Ya, right.

...it's set 50-100 years in the future. That was, like, the third spoken sentence in the trailer, I think. "Americans have been trying to install demacracies in countries for over a Century" They're probably talking about Cold War US, but who knows, so basically it would be 2050 at least.

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CanisWolfred wrote:

Kodeen wrote:

If you want an FPS to look forward to (back on), it should be this one:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/05/02/no-one-lives-forev...

I didn't find that one too fun. The AI sucked, the levels went on too long, and it forced Stealth, which always sucks when it comes to FPSes. Unless I'm thinking of the sequel...

I'm of a completely different mind when it comes to stealth, but I won't get into it, this thread is for a different game after all.

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