Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Have you ever used steam? As an example, I have Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, two boxed retail games and I paid $10 for them in a bundle. How much would you have paid for it at gamestop at the same time? $20? For one? Another example: I saw Portal 2 for sale awhile ago for $5. How much would you have paid for that? Steam isn't about cheap eShop grade titles, it's full-fledged retail games at cheap prices.

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Let's make this game more interesting.

PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Plus.

Say you buy the console for $300. PlayStation Plus for one year is, what, $AU70? So, $370. And that includes something like 24 free games through the year. That would be enough for many people, but let's be generous and say there are four games that you really want to play that aren't Plus, and you pay $AU60 for each of those off the PSN.

So $610

Now gaming PC at $500 and 28 (24+4) games at an average price of $15

$920

Same number of games.

PS3 wins. Effortlessly.

MadAussieBloke wrote:

PC's are just way too hardcore for Bankai and yourself... Probably better off to just stick with the kasual konsole krowd I refer to them as the KKK.

Bankai wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Have you ever used steam? As an example, I have Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, two boxed retail games and I paid $10 for them in a bundle. How much would you have paid for it at gamestop at the same time? $20? For one? Another example: I saw Portal 2 for sale awhile ago for $5. How much would you have paid for that? Steam isn't about cheap eShop grade titles, it's full-fledged retail games at cheap prices.

You missed the point.

Compare Steam to PSN, not retail.

/argument.

CanisWolfred wrote:

Lan wrote:

Comes out pretty even, but who buys just six games? My Steam Library alone has 83 games....

...a lot more people than those who buy 83+ games.

SkywardLink98 wrote:

But Steam is retail for PC owners. I only own 3 boxed games for PC, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, and Age of Empires 3. The rest of my retail games I got at $5 or so on steam. The digital games for PC would be places like humblebundle, indieroyale, etc. where you get 6 games for around $6.06 (current price on indieroyale).

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Have you ever used steam? As an example, I have Arkham Asylum and Arkham City, two boxed retail games and I paid $10 for them in a bundle. How much would you have paid for it at gamestop at the same time? $20? For one? Another example: I saw Portal 2 for sale awhile ago for $5. How much would you have paid for that? Steam isn't about cheap eShop grade titles, it's full-fledged retail games at cheap prices.

You missed the point.

Compare Steam to PSN, not retail.

/argument.

But Steam is retail for PC owners. I only own 3 boxed games for PC, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, and Age of Empires 3. The rest of my retail games I got at $5 or so on steam. The digital games for PC would be places like humblebundle, indieroyale, etc. where you get 6 games for around $6.06 (current price on indieroyale).

Geonjaha wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

Lan wrote:

Comes out pretty even, but who buys just six games? My Steam Library alone has 83 games....

...a lot more people than those who buy 83+ games.

We're on a Nintendo forum, where a gamer is asking for opinions about getting a PC for his gaming needs. It's pretty obvious who this argument is aimed at, and its not the guy who only buys 6 games.

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

FOREST_RANGER wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Because online-distribution is what PC users pretty much use now. And there's also Apple's Mac App store for the Macintosh computers.

And let me be clear that this is for all software, not just games.

CanisWolfred wrote:

But they still have Retail games sold at Retail prices. At retail. The cheaper games are indie, or other significantly smaller scale games. People aren't getting Call-of-Duty level games at $5 within their first year, their getting them at $30-$50+, just like on consoles. You don't compare apples to oranges, so don't compare indie bundles to AAA games.

If you're talking about indie games on PC and indie games on consoles, the price numbers are quite even, actually.

CanisWolfred wrote:

FOREST_RANGER wrote:

Bankai wrote:

Um. Why are people comparing Steam (a digital download service) with full-priced retail boxes with console gaming.

Because online-distribution is what PC users pretty much use now. And there's also Apple's Mac App store for the Macintosh computers.

And let me be clear that this is for all software, not just games.

But they still have Retail games sold at Retail prices. At retail. The cheaper games are indie, or other significantly smaller scale games. People aren't getting Call-of-Duty level games at $5 within their first year, their getting them at $30-$50+, just like on consoles. You don't compare apples to oranges, so don't compare indie bundles to AAA games.

If you're talking about indie games on PC and indie games on consoles, the price numbers are quite even, actually.

FOREST_RANGER wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

But they still have Retail games sold at Retail prices. At retail. The cheaper games are indie, or other significantly smaller scale games. People aren't getting Call-of-Duty level games at $5 within their first year, their getting them at $30-$50+, just like on consoles. You don't compare apples to oranges, so don't compare indie bundles to AAA games.

If you're talking about indie games on PC and indie games on consoles, the price numbers are quite even, actually.

At this instance, I'm not arguing that PC games are cheaper than console games (though it could happen if one knows what to do). I'm just saying that retail games are much less relevant in the PC game world than the console world. There are likely still many people downloading AAA games regardless of price.

CanisWolfred wrote:

Yes, but other people are using Steam as a way of showing how PC gaming is cheaper when compared to full retail priced console games, ignoring the fact several key factors that breaks down their argument. I know I quoted you, but that was only because you were at the bottom of the page, it was more directed at the others.

Geonjaha wrote:

the hardware isn't 7/8 years old like this gens consoles so graphics and performance can easily be better than a console,

Bankai wrote:

Let's make this game more interesting.

PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Plus.

Say you buy the console for $300. PlayStation Plus for one year is, what, $AU70? So, $370. And that includes something like 24 free games through the year. That would be enough for many people, but let's be generous and say there are four games that you really want to play that aren't Plus, and you pay $AU60 for each of those off the PSN.

So $610

Now gaming PC at $500 and 28 (24+4) games at an average price of $15

$920

Same number of games.

PS3 wins. Effortlessly.