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Bankai

61. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 04:18 GMT

(But you have to admit, the cheap minigames are a huge percentage of iOS games, and also most of the time, the face of it.)

For sure, but the Wii has a huge percentage of shovelware minigame compilations, and were often the most visible games on the console.

Once you start digging around the iOS you'll find it's one of the most varied devices for games out there - for all kinds of gamers. I don't buy this idea that the games on it are somehow "less" than their console brethren.

I mean, yes, shooters and platformers are more difficult without physical controls (though there are exceptions. Max and the Magic Marker is far better with touch than pointer controls, for instance). But for most other genres the iOS platforms offer an experience that isn't really any different to the consoles.

Or to swing the whole point I'm making here around - people that have the likes of Civilization Revolution, Baldur's Gate, Riven: The Sequel to Myst, Machinarium... I don't see many of these people complaining about the quality of games on the iPad much :P

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62. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:05 GMT

Everyone complaining that Square Enix is making a cash grab without using any effort, please enter "Square Enix" into your app store search bar. Square Enix has released picture galleries of the main Final Fantasy games and released them for a premium price! This really isn't anything that new.

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63. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:09 GMT

I'm glad at least one company is not playing this silly race to the bottom price battle.

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64. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:13 GMT

Bankai wrote:

I'm glad at least one company is not playing this silly race to the bottom price battle.

Who?

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65. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:19 GMT

Hokori wrote:

Bankai wrote:

I'm glad at least one company is not playing this silly race to the bottom price battle.

Who?

He's justifying Square Enix's right to sell a picture gallery for 7 dollars. With logic. Somehow...

although he's got a point, if you're going to release premium content on the appstore, don't price it at 99cents. All it does is devalue your product, not get you more sales

Edited on Fri 18th January, 2013 @ 05:20 by Magikarp

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66. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:22 GMT

Hokori wrote:

Bankai wrote:

I'm glad at least one company is not playing this silly race to the bottom price battle.

Who?

Who this thread is about, Square Enix. A good amount of their iOS games are priced between $5-$20 (instead of $1-$2, like a lot of apps), indicating their quality.

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67. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 05:46 GMT

Magikarp wrote:

Hokori wrote:

Bankai wrote:

I'm glad at least one company is not playing this silly race to the bottom price battle.

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He's justifying Square Enix's right to sell a picture gallery for 7 dollars. With logic. Somehow...

although he's got a point, if you're going to release premium content on the appstore, don't price it at 99cents. All it does is devalue your product, not get you more sales

I didn't buy the picture gallery app.

However I do fully support Square Enix for doing that. Commissioning art is expensive. The idea that Square Enix (or anyone else) to give that away is laughable.

When you buy an art book for $40 or so, you're only paying $10 or thereabouts in manufacturing costs. The other $30 is for the actual work in the book. Square Enix is giving that to you for $23 less in app form. That's a bargain, not premium.

The one thing I really hate about the app store is that it is conditioning consumers to expect an awful lot, for a very low price. It's not sustainable in the slightest, so yes I do see it as a great thing that one or two companies out there are insisting that their work is worth more than a few cents.

Edited on Fri 18th January, 2013 @ 05:48 by Bankai

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68. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 20:29 GMT

It would be laughable if those pictures didn't have a 99.9% chance of being free on the internet. Yes, that doesn't support the artists, but people are already in a mindset that art should be free. No one's going to buy it.

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69. Posted: Fri 18th Jan 2013 22:49 GMT

CanisWolfred wrote:

It would be laughable if those pictures didn't have a 99.9% chance of being free on the internet. Yes, that doesn't support the artists, but people are already in a mindset that art should be free. No one's going to buy it.

You'd be surprised. The pictures in the art books are also readily available on the Internet. I have six of those personally, and I see them disappearing from the shelves at the book store.

Game guides continue to make money too, despite the existence of GameFAQs

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70. Posted: Sun 20th Jan 2013 04:26 GMT

Bankai wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

It would be laughable if those pictures didn't have a 99.9% chance of being free on the internet. Yes, that doesn't support the artists, but people are already in a mindset that art should be free. No one's going to buy it.

You'd be surprised. The pictures in the art books are also readily available on the Internet. I have six of those personally, and I see them disappearing from the shelves at the book store.

Game guides continue to make money too, despite the existence of GameFAQs

But what's the difference between an art book and an image gallery? The fact that an art book is physical. This is just an digital image gallery. The appeal of art books doesn't carry over.
Unless you have evidence of digital game guides and digital "art books" selling well, the comparison between the SE pictures and an art book seems invalid.

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71. Posted: Sun 20th Jan 2013 17:17 GMT

Actually, the reason Guide Books still work is that they provide visual guides and professional explanations, which you can't get from GameFAQs. But as Tyson said, there's no difference between an image gallery and an artbook, It's only appealing for collectors, these days. Not that I don't appreciate the bonus artbooks I've gotten over the years. A good artbook provides more than just the art, such as lore, explanations, and words from the artists, but I've checked out some in the book store, and didn't see that too often (though chances are I probably looked at the cheaper ones, so take that with a grain of salt).

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72. Posted: Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:01 GMT

http://kotaku.com/5976887/if-theres-one-reason-to-play-final-...

I seriously almost want to buy this game now...No really, I'm getting my money out and contemplating what to do with it...

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73. Posted: Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:07 GMT

CanisWolfred wrote:

http://kotaku.com/5976887/if-theres-one-reason-to-play-final-...

I seriously almost want to buy this game now...No really, I'm getting my money out and contemplating what to do with it...

Oh wow. That is #winning

Now I'm going to grab it too.

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74. Posted: Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:41 GMT

CanisWolfred wrote:

http://kotaku.com/5976887/if-theres-one-reason-to-play-final-...

I seriously almost want to buy this game now...No really, I'm getting my money out and contemplating what to do with it...

It's awesome that the translators had fun with their jobs. Seems to be the one redeeming factor in an otherwise hugely flawed game.
My favorite of the ones shown has to be Gaelicat

Edited on Mon 21st January, 2013 @ 01:42 by moomoo

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75. Posted: Mon 21st Jan 2013 01:51 GMT

I'm fine just laughing and respecting the translators.

I'm still not paying money for it.

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76. Posted: Mon 21st Jan 2013 02:51 GMT

TysonOfTime wrote:

I'm fine just laughing and respecting the translators.

I'm still not paying money for it.

Yeah, same here.

By the way, for anyone interested, IGN posted a review for it. 2.5 out of 10. Haven't seen something that low from them in a long time.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/18/final-fantasy-all-the-...

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77. Posted: Tue 22nd Jan 2013 19:05 GMT

A review [Destructoid]

Contains strong language.

Final Fantasy All the Bravest (iOS)
Developer: Square Enix
Publisher: Square Enix
Released: January 17, 2013
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78. Posted: Tue 22nd Jan 2013 19:33 GMT

@edhe Jim Sterling is an artistic genius.

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79. Posted: Tue 22nd Jan 2013 23:33 GMT

moomoo wrote:

@edhe Jim Sterling is an artistic genius.

Indeed. That was the fastest I've laughed at a review yet.

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