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DBPirate

I'm pretty sure almost everyone on this site thinks COD is overrated.

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Ralizah

While we're on the topic, if I'm being honest, I've never enjoyed Half Life 2. The vehicle sections and awkward combat make this game pretty enjoyable for me.

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sub12

Ralizah wrote:

While we're on the topic, if I'm being honest, I've never enjoyed Half Life 2. The vehicle sections and awkward combat make this game pretty enjoyable for me.

Did you play it back in 2004? Easily one of the greatest of all time titles IMO, same with the OG half life.

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Ralizah

sub12 wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

While we're on the topic, if I'm being honest, I've never enjoyed Half Life 2. The vehicle sections and awkward combat make this game pretty enjoyable for me.

Did you play it back in 2004? Easily one of the greatest of all time titles IMO, same with the OG half life.

Nope. Played it in 2008. Any game that has lost its flavor in 4 years isn't worth my time.

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Grumblevolcano

sub12 wrote:

SkywardLink98 wrote:

sub12 wrote:

The first two WW2 COD's along with the first Modern Warfare were easily some of the best FPS's of the last decade......along with MH: Allied Assault, Half Life 2, Escape from Butcher Bay, etc.

It's pretty crazy to think that as of next year Half-Life 2 will be over a decade old. (Technically it already is, it launched Nov. 16, 2004.)

I still expect to wake up one day with the news that Valve just uploaded Half Life 3 to steam, just out of the blue with no warning or pre-order options.

It's a really sad moment that I have reached the point where this seems more likely than Super Mario 64 being playable with the Wii U Gamepad.

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sub12

Ralizah wrote:

sub12 wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

While we're on the topic, if I'm being honest, I've never enjoyed Half Life 2. The vehicle sections and awkward combat make this game pretty enjoyable for me.

Did you play it back in 2004? Easily one of the greatest of all time titles IMO, same with the OG half life.

Nope. Played it in 2008. Any game that has lost its flavor in 4 years isn't worth my time.

Your entitled to your opinion!!! (That very small, minute, spec, not even worth considering, who cares what they think - go and play some lame JRPG, opinion)

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Kaze_Memaryu

sub12 wrote:

That's the thing, nobody can really say COD titles are bad games, the mechanics are super tight and it's usually a very enjoyable experince.

That's... absolutely not true. Call of Duty has extreme issues with weapon balancing, making the singleplayer any kind of fun, and also the matchmaking system in general (though AW seems to be a bit better with that, despite the lack of dedicated servers). The best thing is, all of that started after Modern Warfare, meaning that all these CoD titles that followed one of the best entries in the series are flawed beyond expectations. Modern Warfare brought a type of consumer that is often referred to as the "dudebro" to the fray, and the average dudebro only needs an arbitrary level/rank/whatever system for show-off, big explosions and automatics to get a feeling of power and dominance, and cutscenes that defy any stretch of common sense while waving more US flags than all of Bay's Transformers movies together (and that's many!).
And all of that is a recurring staple in all CoD games ever since MW, to the point Activision won't be able to try anything else because that's what sells: the quick first impression.

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R_Champ

Kaze_Memaryu wrote:

sub12 wrote:

That's the thing, nobody can really say COD titles are bad games, the mechanics are super tight and it's usually a very enjoyable experince.

That's... absolutely not true. Call of Duty has extreme issues with weapon balancing, making the singleplayer any kind of fun, and also the matchmaking system in general (though AW seems to be a bit better with that, despite the lack of dedicated servers). The best thing is, all of that started after Modern Warfare, meaning that all these CoD titles that followed one of the best entries in the series are flawed beyond expectations. Modern Warfare brought a type of consumer that is often referred to as the "dudebro" to the fray, and the average dudebro only needs an arbitrary level/rank/whatever system for show-off, big explosions and automatics to get a feeling of power and dominance, and cutscenes that defy any stretch of common sense while waving more US flags than all of Bay's Transformers movies together (and that's many!).
And all of that is a recurring staple in all CoD games, to the point Activision won't be able to try anything else because that's what sells: the quick first impression.

I hate the lack of balance aspect. Funny thing is? I think devs do it on purpose to get people into a series. People will like a game more if there are easy wins in it for them. Why do think there are slogs of Little Macs in Smash Bros. in Free for Alls? The same reason people camp in a corner with an overpower SMG or Shotgun in CoD .

Games with good balance tend to get a cult following at best.

And yeah CoD is overrated....but that doesn't mean it's all bad. There have been ones in the series that were much better, it's just the idea is so tired at this point it can't help but be overrated. Shooters tend to have a harder time staying fresh IMO. FPS games are kind of the pop music of gaming. They don't change much with each new game (album), but they will sell like hotcakes as long as everyone else is buying them. So Modern Warefare would be Michael Jackon's Thriller, and Modern Warfare 3 might be like Justin Bieber's latest album.

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Ralizah

sub12 wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

sub12 wrote:

Ralizah wrote:

While we're on the topic, if I'm being honest, I've never enjoyed Half Life 2. The vehicle sections and awkward combat make this game pretty enjoyable for me.

Did you play it back in 2004? Easily one of the greatest of all time titles IMO, same with the OG half life.

Nope. Played it in 2008. Any game that has lost its flavor in 4 years isn't worth my time.

Your entitled to your opinion!!! (That very small, minute, spec, not even worth considering, who cares what they think - go and play some lame JRPG, opinion)

Would it help if I admitted that the two Portal games are possibly my favorite games of the last ten or so years? I'm not completely down on Valve.

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CanisWolfred

I wasn't a big fan of Half-Life 2 for similar reasons, plus the entirety of Ravenholm. It's the Ocarina of Time of FPSes where it feels like there's a cult making sure it's still held as the greatest game ever when it has been outdone by quite a few games within its respective genre...and arguably wasn't as tight or well-crafted in the first place as so many say.

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DefHalan

CanisWolfred wrote:

I wasn't a big fan of Half-Life 2 for similar reasons, plus the entirety of Ravenholm. It's the Ocarina of Time of FPSes where it feels like there's a cult making sure it's still held as the greatest game ever when it has been outdone by quite a few games within its respective genre...and arguably wasn't as tight or well-crafted in the first place as so many say.

I disagree with your opinion about Half-Life 2 but agree with your opinion of Ocarina of Time. I haven't played another FPS that felt like 1 huge interconnected world like in Half-Life 2. Ocarina of Time I feel is a game that was good for its time but as we progressed the game shows its flaws, however Majora's Mask I think is pretty timeless.

EDIT: Also one of my favorite things about Half-Life 2 is how it basically never took control away from you. Throughout the entire experience I was in control of the main character.

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I grew tired of COD awhile back but different strokes, different folks.

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As tired as I am of "am I the only one" gaming arguments, that initial post was kind of awesome.

As for COD, eh. I used to play COD 2 at the office after work with my friends back in the day, but I was never a fan of that kind of gameplay. First-person gaming always seems kinda limiting and claustrophobic for me.

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Caryslan

To be honest, I enjoy Call of Duty as much as I do any other game. While I don't think its the best FPS title out there, I think the games are pretty good for what they are. Which is basically a single-player mode that is basically an interactive action movie, multiplayer that is fast paced with tons of cool gadgets and weapons to use, and various bonus modes tacked on like Zombies, Squads, and Survival.

I have Ghosts and Black Ops II for the Wii U, and I play them as much as any other Wii U game. I would have gotten Advanced Warfare, but it skipped the Wii U, so I'll likely get it on my PS3 sometime next year.

To be honest, I don't consider the series that overrated. Yes, it tends to get sales, but the series gets slammed for being everything that's wrong with modern gaming, even if its not directly involved.

I like Call of Duty, I think it's a fun series. I'm not a big FPS fan anyway. About the only other FPS games I've ever enjoyed were Doom 3, Duke Nukem Forever, and some older ones like Wolfenstien 3D, Duke Nukem Forever, and Doom.

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Ralizah

Caryslan wrote:

To be honest, I enjoy Call of Duty as much as I do any other game. While I don't think its the best FPS title out there, I think the games are pretty good for what they are. Which is basically a single-player mode that is basically an interactive action movie, multiplayer that is fast paced with tons of cool gadgets and weapons to use, and various bonus modes tacked on like Zombies, Squads, and Survival.

I have Ghosts and Black Ops II for the Wii U, and I play them as much as any other Wii U game. I would have gotten Advanced Warfare, but it skipped the Wii U, so I'll likely get it on my PS3 sometime next year.

To be honest, I don't consider the series that overrated. Yes, it tends to get sales, but the series gets slammed for being everything that's wrong with modern gaming, even if its not directly involved.

I like Call of Duty, I think it's a fun series. I'm not a big FPS fan anyway. About the only other FPS games I've ever enjoyed were Doom 3, Duke Nukem Forever, and some older ones like Wolfenstien 3D, Duke Nukem Forever, and Doom.

Have you tried Wolfenstein: The New Order? It's awesome.

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RR529

Since this discussion has apparently become serious (I don't know if the majority of posters knew the OP was a joke...), I'll get in on it as well.

I agree with the above poster. I'm not a huge FPS fan, but I have casually played a few COD games (COD2, WAW, & MW2), and they are all guilty fun.

They're not something I play every year, but I do think it's a fun series. It has fast & fluid arcadey gameplay, mixed with an over the top summer blockbuster storyline, and that's what I'd define as a game that's trying to prioritize "fun" over realism. I never understood the idea that it's supposedly a boring "war simulator". It simulates nothing.

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CanisWolfred

DefHalan wrote:

CanisWolfred wrote:

I wasn't a big fan of Half-Life 2 for similar reasons, plus the entirety of Ravenholm. It's the Ocarina of Time of FPSes where it feels like there's a cult making sure it's still held as the greatest game ever when it has been outdone by quite a few games within its respective genre...and arguably wasn't as tight or well-crafted in the first place as so many say.

I disagree with your opinion about Half-Life 2 but agree with your opinion of Ocarina of Time. I haven't played another FPS that felt like 1 huge interconnected world like in Half-Life 2. Ocarina of Time I feel is a game that was good for its time but as we progressed the game shows its flaws, however Majora's Mask I think is pretty timeless.

EDIT: Also one of my favorite things about Half-Life 2 is how it basically never took control away from you. Throughout the entire experience I was in control of the main character.

Those were it's main strengths, and if they're enough to make you forgive its flaws, good for you. But I play shooters to shoot things, and I didn't find shooting things in that game very satisfying, especially with the bland weapons that really didn't have much oomph to them. Nor did I find the awkward physics puzzles that good - which admittedly were made back when Physics puzzles were sorta new but that doesn't take away from the fact that they were stupid and inconsistant to pull off. In fact, even nowadays physics puzzles are stupidly inconsistant and unnecessarily frustrating, maybe people should stop doing physics puzzles all together (at least until they figure out how to make the physics work in a coherant manner), let alone shoehorning them into shooty-shooty games???? And don't even get me started on the f***ing driving sections. Halo and Unreal Tournament practically perfected driving controls years before Half-Life 2 came out, maybe they could've taken a few notes, huh??? And then there's shooting up the ladders at the speed of light, the random horror section filled with obnoxious puzzles and the most confusing level layout I have seen in an FPS, while they're throwing hordes of Zombies and fast zombies that reguire a shotgun to a very specific portion of their bodies - not just the head, a specific point on the head - and you have hardly any space to look around for ammo or even where the hell you're going....

...Half-Life 2 was a good cinematic experience. It was not a great game. It certainly wasn't the best game, not by a long shot.

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