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MarsManu

I have more than 40.000 Points. At first I had a normal win loss ratio, of like 25 wins to 18 losses. But then I started using Chain Chomp and Waluigi and won about 98% of my matches lol. Can people outside the UK also win something? I already pre ordered the game though ^^

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SwitcherooSwitch

Yeah I felt confident with my 65K points and a W/L of about 200 - 10 and about 60 tournament wins. That was, of course, until I read up on how other players were doing. The game wasn't too hard for me to learn as I'd played so much of Mario Tennis Open on the 3DS. I had won nearly every tournament - unlocking four characters just from winning my very first one! Then I learnt about abusing both forward/backwards trick shots that automatically follow the ball for you, filling up your meter instantly and about serving with zone shots that can quickly chip away at your rackets. I KO'd way too many people after learning that one.

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NEStalgia

@DawgP That's, tha's great advice overall....the second part of your first post is all stuff I was actually doing, though I never had full charges (only rarely on a star point do I get long enough to do full charges.) But the actual tennis basics, charges aside, I seemed ok on. What you say about serving though....it didn't seem like there was any control at all over the serve. How do you serve effectively? It seems like there's only "rightward, leftward, or center" and you don't have control over placment, and for serves it seems like 0 control...you just hit it at the top (or in the case of all the lousy 1-bar laggers, toss the ball...no button response...toss the ball...no button response. )

For the tennis basics, that's the one place I was scoring points....I'm not as fast as some but knowing where to TRY to put the ball I'm doing well on, and finding the openings or likely openings. Where the good players get me is they seem to move the ball more toward the edges than I seem to, move it faster than I seem to....and I'm assuming that means more charging, but I don't know how they're getting charges in since every time I hold the button as fast as possible there's barely enough time for a partial charge. (And some are just better at thinking faster than me, and that will never change, but that's different than the ones that just kept me chasing and chasing non-stop. I had several total shutout matches against me...those sucked )

I'm thinking my core problem is the charging maybe. I get maybe 2-3 full charge shots per match. My opponent gets like 20 But I don't know how to get more charge.

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DawgP

@NEStalgia So where does the special.meter come in? I think I found a good answer Sunday night; I started doing certain things with the special meter and started dominating hard.

So always be charging. That's gonna build your special meter. And keep your opponent moving. If they're moving they're not charging. And don't be discouraged if you opponent keeps using time-slow trick shots. It uses special meter to get some special meter, so they're basically stagnating.

And charging your meter is all good, but what do you do with it? First of all DO NOT use it to chase regular shots. Only slow time if your trick shot does it for you. Yes, it's a stagnant transaction, but so long as you're not doing it every hit and resend controlling the field, it's fine. The only exception is to slow time so you can get the block timing against zone or special shots on crucial points. For points that don't matter, just let them have the shot.

If you're receiving, use the special attack as soon as you've got it, unless you are in a one-sided game and are sure you'll be serving right away. Using your special.shot to counter a special shot puts you worse off than the opponent (this is directly contrary to Mario Power Tennis); instead of making a special shot of your own, it's just a dinky block shot and it leaves you exposed to follow up. Either slow time to get the block timing, or let them have the shot if it's not an important point.

If you're serving, however, and have a decent amount of meter, use the zone shot on your serve. Force them to use their meter to slow for the timing or (probably) take some racket damage if they don't want you to have the Ace point. If you can get to a scenario where you can zone shot, they can't retaliate with a special, they have one racket health left AND it's a point that'll win you a game, you're almost guaranteed the game point.

If you're in a situation where your meter is green, they really don't have any, and a star opens up right below you and it's not a fast shot (lob or drop where you have some time), go ahead and zone shot.

Also, don't bother aiming the zone or special shots. The longer you aim, the more specialeyer you use, and the more you'll need to replenish. Your opponent is either going to use their special meter to slow it down and try to make the timing for the block, risk/take the racket damage, or let you have the point. Positioning is very unimportant for those.

At least, that's what really worked fore at the end there. That racket pressure put me in can't lose scenarios against people who had the point/game lead on me or were otherwise showing more court prowess than me.

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NEStalgia

@MarsManu WOW, I thought I had played a lot with 2000 points (I had one opponent with 5000+. ) How much did you PLAY?!

I didn't get chain chomp until late, but I didn't seem to do particularly better with him. I wish the game told you the differences of the characters. "Power, power, power, speedy, speedy, all-around, technical, tricky"....but...what does that mean? How does each get used differently?

@SwitcherooSwitch YOU'RE ONE OF THOSE!!!! Wow and I thought my 100 games or so was a lot...up to 2000 points. That's scary! Don't the trick shots DRAIN your energy meter? They seemed to for me....

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MarsManu

@NEStalgia I'm not sure, maybe like 8 hours ^^
My reach was much better with Chain Chomp and Waluigi than with Mario and Yoshi for example. It's understandable, Waluigi's arms are much larger than those two.

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DawgP

@NEStalgia I couldn't play as much as others because 1) I had other things going on in real life this weekend and 2) I have small hands so trying to use all the buttons and the right stick on the pro controller in a fast action game causes my right hand to hurt after a while. But I think I made a decent showing of myself with 125 total matches and 5 losses. (I think my points got to just over 30k... Can't remember.)

Anyway, you can manipulate your serve based on your position and the type of shot you do. Hold the direction stick while the ball is in the air. And a slice will bank towards your forehand side (I believe, the physics of the swing and my experience as a lefty had slice serves going towards my left) and a topspin would be opposite that, but if you're a powerful server going for that, just flat hit for more power.

The closer you are to the center of the court, the shallower your angle is going to be. The further out you are, the deeper your angle can be.

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NEStalgia

Wow I played probably 8 hours maybe total....I lost more than I won (won only bracket 1 and occasional bracket 2....once or twice bracket 3.) I thought 2k points was good

@MarsManu I didn't do any better or worse I don't think with specific characters, though I didn't understand their strengths. It needs an MK8 like meter system for the different builds I think! But I know I hated going AGAINST Waluigi. Every match was a never-ending 5 game match. It was so tiring by the end! It was a chain chomp player that just destroyed me in a total shutout though. For me I still can't fathom getting to the finals You guys that did it so many times that seems surreal! I'll say it's kind of frustrating every time you lose going back to the first tier.....I found the first round very easy usually with the other total noobs.....but then bracket 2 would just destroy me.

@DawgP Wow...that's a LOT of information on the gauges....I never even gave them that much thought! How do you not aim the specials/zones...don't they go out more times than not? (heck even the ones I did aim were out more times than not...I'd say 20% in, 80% out, losing the point.)

And how do you actually charge your racket reliably? Most of the time I could only get a very very tiny charge before the ball was hit.

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Man, I really hope NL runs a tournament when this releases. There are clearly quite a few serious players out there!

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DawgP

@NEStalgia So fast means they're mobile, tricky means their slice and topspin spin hella curve, defensive means longer reach (and possibly less strict trick shot?), Power means they hit hard, all around means garbage (sorry, but I feel Mario is the worst character in Mario Tennis. Every Mario I faced was basically a free win, even the ones with 20k+ points).

Also, my experience is that special/zone shot default to a legal hit. Did you turn gyro controls off? Those might cause non-aim to be out... thinking

As for charging the racket, hit/mash the button as soon as you feel confident in your placement when returning a volley. If you get a good feel for controlling the court, you'll pretty much be where you need to be most of the time as you've moved before your opponent hits it back, giving you more time to charge. And then there are the "dive" hits if the ball is too far out but you can still reach, they don't give special meter, but keep the ball in play if you charged too far away. And then there are also the trick shots.

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SwitcherooSwitch

@NEStalgia The trick shots give you lots of energy if you time them right but if you're too late the game will enter zone speed and use some of your meter but at least you're nearly guaranteed to hit the ball then. If you use a late trick shot and didn't have enough energy to use the required zone speed you would return the ball weakly and your opponent was guaranteed a star zone on their side of the court.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that if you use a late trick shot, you gain no energy.

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Snaplocket

Already posted this in the Aces thread but might as well post it here too. Here are my bios of each character.

Keep in mind these are just my opinions.

Mario: Pretty much exactly what you expect. Solid all around, no real strengths or weaknesses.

Peach: By far the weakest hitter of the bunch but the trade off is her amazing control. She can hit the ball to the far corners no problem. The rest of her stats are about the same as Mario's.

Yoshi: Similar to Mario but a lot faster in exchange for being slightly worse everywhere else.

Bowser: Pretty much the opposite of Peach. One of the slowest characters and has the worst control of the bunch but the trade off is that he has good reach and hits like a truck.

Waluigi: The only real OP character. Control is almost as good as Peach's, shot power on par with Mario and he has INSANE reach. His only real downsides are that he's a bit slow and his shots have no curve.

Toad: The fastest character of the bunch, low power, decent control and curve. As a trade-off he has AWFUL reach so you really need to get good at moving into position before charging.

Rosalina: Probably the most unique character. She has a gimmick where she doesn't slow down while charging and has the best curve and good control. The downside is that her power, speed and reach are all mediocre.

Spike: Suprisingly good speed and control. In exchange, his reach is almost as bad as Toad's and he's the weakest of the power characters.

Chain Chomp: Almost as strong as Bowser and reach is almost as good as Waluigi's. Trade-offs are low curve, low control and he is SLOW (by far the slowest of the bunch).

My personal favorites are Peach and Rosalina. Who are yours?

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DawgP

@Snaplocket I'm Chain Chomp all the way. Stats and stuff be damned, I love the cosmetics of a racket in his mouth and the whole busting out of the cage at the championship intro.

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Won most games with bowser and Rosalina.

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cagethelonewolf

I thought it would have been overall not just points or I would have played non stop restjng rather then spending hours playing that one t match I have 15375 points 100 wins 47 loss 147 matches

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Kwild

I ended with a good 79 tournament wins, 403 regular wins, with a 90% win rate. I got an overall score of about 98k

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SwitcherooSwitch

@Kwild How many hours was that? I understand wanting to play as much of the demo as possible in the short amount of time but not to that extent.

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