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thelegendoflink

taytrellz wrote:

@thelegendoflink
should the homing boost power be banned also. then all people would do is sit back and shoot. and with the hominh boost, its almost impossible to dodge some weapon shots (black club, angel bow, ex cannon, predator cannon).
and transparency should be banned too

That's a pretty interesting case, actually. The thing with Homing Boost is that it clearly makes some weapons OP, as they become undodgable, but they actually are either banned (Eyetracks, Gemini, Angel, Predator), slow, or with a low cancellation (Doom Cannon, Cursed Palm, Black Club, Babel Club). So what you're left with is that banning Homing Boost would make some weapons with bad homing worse (Centurions, Cragalanche, Darkness Bow). What you could do is make it so only certain sets of weapons/powers are banned, that way some weapons can come out of the banlist, but that would require a deeper understanding on the metagame, something I currently don't have. So our banlist can do for now, although it's not perfect.

Currently playing online: Kid Icarus Uprising.

taytrellz

thelegendoflink wrote:

taytrellz wrote:

@thelegendoflink
should the homing boost power be banned also. then all people would do is sit back and shoot. and with the hominh boost, its almost impossible to dodge some weapon shots (black club, angel bow, ex cannon, predator cannon).
and transparency should be banned too

That's a pretty interesting case, actually. The thing with Homing Boost is that it clearly makes some weapons OP, as they become undodgable, but they actually are either banned (Eyetracks, Gemini, Angel, Predator), slow, or with a low cancellation (Doom Cannon, Cursed Palm, Black Club, Babel Club). So what you're left with is that banning Homing Boost would make some weapons with bad homing worse (Centurions, Cragalanche, Darkness Bow). What you could do is make it so only certain sets of weapons/powers are banned, that way some weapons can come out of the banlist, but that would require a deeper understanding on the metagame, something I currently don't have. So our banlist can do for now, although it's not perfect.

what about transparency?

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taytrellz wrote:

thelegendoflink wrote:

taytrellz wrote:

@thelegendoflink
should the homing boost power be banned also. then all people would do is sit back and shoot. and with the hominh boost, its almost impossible to dodge some weapon shots (black club, angel bow, ex cannon, predator cannon).
and transparency should be banned too

That's a pretty interesting case, actually. The thing with Homing Boost is that it clearly makes some weapons OP, as they become undodgable, but they actually are either banned (Eyetracks, Gemini, Angel, Predator), slow, or with a low cancellation (Doom Cannon, Cursed Palm, Black Club, Babel Club). So what you're left with is that banning Homing Boost would make some weapons with bad homing worse (Centurions, Cragalanche, Darkness Bow). What you could do is make it so only certain sets of weapons/powers are banned, that way some weapons can come out of the banlist, but that would require a deeper understanding on the metagame, something I currently don't have. So our banlist can do for now, although it's not perfect.

what about transparency?

What about no good weapons and powers? :/ seriously...

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Sonicman

Glad to see that some people have little faith in me. I'm currently doing good on my project (OP Cancer Claws) also, may whip up a palm for the tourney if I find the time.

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Tricoloryoshi

Blaze wrote:

Once again, I'm happy to participate in some pre-tourney matches if anyone would like to play. Just let me know! :3

I'm up for it~

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taytrellz

so how do we know who we are up against?
and @Sonicman @Blaze im about to add you guys in about 30 minutes so add me back please!

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Tricoloryoshi

Good games! you've really improved, thank you, I've learned a lot from our battles, like how much I hate invisibility.
Edit: sorry to leave so soon, imma eat pizza.

Edited on by Tricoloryoshi

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Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.
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Blaze

Tricoloryoshi wrote:

Good games! you've really improved, thank you, I've learned a lot from our battles, like how much I hate invisibility.
Edit: sorry to leave so soon, imma eat pizza.

lol, sorry for spamming invisibility so much. and wow I actually managed to scrape a victory from one of our ten or so games. Thanks for the matches though!

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Tricoloryoshi

Blaze wrote:

Tricoloryoshi wrote:

Good games! you've really improved, thank you, I've learned a lot from our battles, like how much I hate invisibility.
Edit: sorry to leave so soon, imma eat pizza.

lol, sorry for spamming invisibility so much. and wow I actually managed to scrape a victory from one of our ten or so games. Thanks for the matches though!

it's fine, it made things a lot more difficult for me but its a legitimate strategy so it's fine~

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thelegendoflink

@Blaze beat me to the epic tourney start announcement . Anyways, the deadline has been reached and it's finally time to fight! Look at the image above for the final brackets, the first game was already done by TheLilK98 and Aquilalex. So, without further ado, it's time to fight for honor, bragging rights and fun!

Edited on by thelegendoflink

Currently playing online: Kid Icarus Uprising.

thelegendoflink

@taytrellz Sorry, I forgot to discuss transparency. Well, it's really no argument at all, especially in a 1v1. As long as you know the position of your opponent in a given point, you can tell the possible rutes that can be taken to get to you, and you can attack in the direction your opponent may be to reveal a dodge or a hit. Since it's a 1v1, keeping track of your opponent shouldn't be hard at all, and invisibility has a short duration anyways (7-9s). So nope, it's not close to OP.

Currently playing online: Kid Icarus Uprising.

Tricoloryoshi

Wait, @ljm and @emeralds are in this? Thought you didn't get a response. (Sorry if the answer has been said before, I forgot)

Edited on by Tricoloryoshi

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thelegendoflink

I forgot my giant bold message, so...

IT'S TIME TO BEGIN

@Yoshi
I decided to add them anyways to get the 32 players, although they gave no confirmation. If they don't want to fight, you and me pass anyways, so it doesn't change much.

Edited on by thelegendoflink

Currently playing online: Kid Icarus Uprising.

Tricoloryoshi

Oh, ok then, thanks.
/me understands now~

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If at first you don't succeed, ragequit.
Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.
Love is too mainstream, haters gonna hate~
my bio by @true_hero
Here is a link. Click it!!! щ(ಠ益ಠщ)

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