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Cynas

@NEStalgia I agree with you. Mythra's VA was one of my favourites, along with Malos and Brighid. Everyone else was great too besides Rex and Obrona, although I think Obrona was meant to have an annoying voice. Rex himself wasn't too horrible, he just couldn't yell very well.

There was one annoying part of the voice acting in general, and that was the pauses after every few words. Most of the characters..... talked like this..... through all of...... their lines. I'm not sure if that was meant to make the length of the lines fit with the animation length, but it was a little annoying. Although I don't really remember it happening in Torna much, which is nice.

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NEStalgia

@Cynas At least I'm not the only one. Nia's voice was a stand-out good one. Tora wins as least annoying voiceypon in history of Nopon! Of course, when your competition is Heropon Ricky that may not be much comfort.

I never minded Rex's yelling I read so much about. I didn't expect him to be raw throat screaming like Shulk which was itself kind of annoying. (Plus they had an actor problem with XC1 with all the screaming and throat injuries/rawness so I'm sure they instructed them to keep it toned down.) I guess he's kind of flat...but I found his acting better than his "power of friendship" character writing

LOL the pauses! The dreadful...........pauses! I presume most of that is indeed due to the animations, and specifically that the cue timings for the lines to be played back are probably based on the length of the lines in Japanese. It creates weird timing issues since some full sentences can be distilled into a syllable or two in Japanese, while more often a few words turn into lengthy passages in Japanese. Especially with the reverse grammar the English version may be time-weighted on the back end of a dialogue and the Japanese version weighted at the front.

I know I've seen that effect in budget JRPG translations a lot. They have to really work on timing for the localization to make it work, and with the timetable for launch I imagine they did the VA recordings before all the scenes even had their JP recording timings placed. But yeah it's annoying and awkward, where you sit and watch thinking "...aaaaand?"

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Tsurii

@NEStalgia you are not. Mythra's great, Skye's great as her and no one is gonna change my mind on it. I'd go as far as to say anyone who legitimately thinks her performance is bad is a complete idiot, but we both know how the kids around here handle that kind of stuff

If you lot want to hear terrible voice acting go and play Breath of the Wild in English and try to stay awake during any of Zelda's lines. That stuff is bad. Mythra sounding (and being) rough around the edges is damn near perfect as far as an actor suiting their character goes.

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Quarth

@NEStalgia Good points!
I like Nia more too. I thought there was more chemistry between her and Rex, than between Rex and Pyra/Mythra.

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@Tsurii Thanks for calling me an idiot.

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EvilLucario

Actually Mythra was my least main favorite character prior to Torna due to her (then) underdeveloped character and a bit ehh performances. Now though, I warmed up considerably to her.

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Ralizah

<--- Didn't have an issue with Zelda's english voice acting. She sounds like an articulate, but not entirely self-confident girl who was raised as royalty. In other words, perfect for that version of the character.

Rex was painful to listen to when he was yelling or trying to express strong emotions, but I liked the other voice actors in XC2. Although Nia's voice acting, as fun as it is to listen to, often conflicts with the character animations, which were designed to be paired with a much more high-pitched female voice.

Not a big problem either way. I'm convinced most of the complaints I hear about the English voice acting in these games is from hardcore weebs.

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Quarth

Ralizah wrote:

Not a big problem either way. I'm convinced most of the complaints I hear about the English voice acting in these games is from hardcore weebs.

Haha. I tried the Japanese voice track for XC2, but actually preferred the English cast, flaws and all.

I’m really enjoying Torna! And the music’s great. Especially love that remixed Gormott track. Jazzy!

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Trajan

Anyone play through the main game in BoC? What teams were you using? I don't want to just spam crit heal Mythra.

Currently filling affinity charts. My favorite blades are Pyra/Mythra, Telos, Elma, KOSMOS, Shulk, Fioria, Catalyst, and Corvin.

Thinking Zeke, Rex, Morag combo. Never really used Morag tbh. Usually stuck with the main crew in the main game and NG+ except for post game.

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Trajan

@Quarth I feel bad for everyone who used the JPN voice pack when the game came out. Don't forget!

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Ralizah

@Quarth I reflexively downloaded the JP voice pack and then proceeded to never actually use it. And I definitely don't regret it: I got to experience the full, obnoxious glory of the Ardanian Soldiers english battle dialogue before Monolith ruined it with a patch.

When I replay the entire game with the DLC bonuses, I'm totally going to do so in Japanese, though. Ditto with BotW. Both have good Japanese voice acting. But people who act like they're unplayable in English are being ridiculous.

I get preferring Japanese. I was a hardcore sub purist weeb myself for many, many years, and I still, in general, prefer to watch most of my anime in Japanese, but I can also watch it in English and enjoy it most of the time. Some shows are actually better in English (like Spice and Wolf: the banter is an absolute joy in English).

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EvilLucario

I will always maintain that some people prefer Japanese because they don't understand a lick of it so any bad acting flies over their head. I mean, I tried to play Bayonetta and Xenoblade 1/2 with Japanese voices and it just sounded like nothing to me and instantly swapped back.

Speaking of Japanese voices though, one thing I found REALLY cool was this game Nioh. It takes place in fictional 1600s Japan with Japanese-speaking guys AND English-speaking guys all in one. Some characters are even bilingual between Japanese and English, which really makes the game feel cool and that you're an outsider (since you play as an English dude in Japan). But that's really the only game I found where Japanese voices really enhanced the experience in my games, and even then those Japanese performances were mixed with English voices.

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Tsurii wrote:

@NEStalgia you are not. Mythra's great, Skye's great as her and no one is gonna change my mind on it. I'd go as far as to say anyone who legitimately thinks her performance is bad is a complete idiot, but we both know how the kids around here handle that kind of stuff

If you lot want to hear terrible voice acting go and play Breath of the Wild in English and try to stay awake during any of Zelda's lines. That stuff is bad. Mythra sounding (and being) rough around the edges is damn near perfect as far as an actor suiting their character goes.

As a zelda super fan, I died on the inside with the VA all around. The guy in charge was the same guy who screwed it up for Mass Effect Andromeda. Totally incompetent. Its like he just listened to the first 15 auditions for each role, put their names on a dart board and that is how he picked. But I can say that for a lot of videogame stuff it is harder than almost any other type of Voiceover work due to the circumstances of recording. So when you hear a good performance, cherish it.

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Sadist

Or people just prefer the Japanese language option because they really don’t like the English VA’s. Even if my Japanese language skills are poor, I still get the overacting/bad acting because of body language, voice use etc.

As someone who loved the English VA of the original Xenoblade, X and 2 are pretty disappointing.

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NEStalgia

@Tsurii lol, you tell 'em!

@Ralizah well, all of them are designed for high pitched Japanese va's, but nothing screams out to me about any animation that the voice doesn't fit or that it feels like she should sound like that. Agreed though. I'll never understand the "this needs the Japanese track" crowd when they don't even understand it. Unless it's really cut rate English actors. Though i won't let anyone take away my Tokyo mirage jp voices.. They're perfect as they are.

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Ralizah

@NEStalgia Morag's English voice is a LOT closer to the Japanese equivalent than Nia's is. Pretty much all of them are. The character's face and body are often visibly animated, which isn't a great match for the way the English voice actor emotes. Good voice, but not great casting.

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bluemage1989

All of those English regional accents (and Rex especially) did my head in for the first ten hours or so but they grew on me and by the time I had finished I found them endearing. More regional accents in western games please.

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NEStalgia

@Ralizah i suppose. Though I'm not sure if be as fond of nia without the monotone sarcastic ambivalence. That's what made her great. . Without it she's just another tsundere.

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Quarth

Regarding good and/or bad VA dubs in Switch games, I think Ys VIII and the new Valkyria Chronicles 4 both have pretty good English VA, while the one in Octopath Traveler is pretty hit and miss IMO.

I really like the character of Lora and I’m glad we get to see more of her in Torna and learn more of her story.

@Trajan In the main game (haven’t played the Bringer of Chaos mode, I’m talking about normal difficulty now), I switched a lot, but always had Rex and almost always Nia, then switched between Morag, Zeke and Tora.
I’m not that great on strategy, but found it was good in some battles to have one attacker, one tank and one healer. Morag with heightened speed really helped me in the final battle.

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Hallonblad

Trajan wrote:

Anyone play through the main game in BoC? What teams were you using? I don't want to just spam crit heal Mythra.

Currently filling affinity charts. My favorite blades are Pyra/Mythra, Telos, Elma, KOSMOS, Shulk, Fioria, Catalyst, and Corvin.

Thinking Zeke, Rex, Morag combo. Never really used Morag tbh. Usually stuck with the main crew in the main game and NG+ except for post game.

I wish PoppiQTPi was moveable.

Crit heal Mythra was outclassed a long time ago. She's not bad and with the right build she has one of the highest damage output in the game but... if you want crit heal you put Fiora on Rex.

Tora is always OP with QTpi and alpha. Nearly unkillable if played right.

For BoC Nim is surprisingly the best healer, since fusion combos is essentially the only thing not nerfed. I didn't stick to a single team during my BoC run, but I did put Nim on Nia and left her there, and she did a far better job at keeping me healthy than I had expected.

I suppose it depends on how you want to play it. I did BoC before Corvin was released and haven't played it since so I'm not sure, but considering how ridiculously OP he is in normal mode I expect him to be at least all right in BoC. Dodge tanks tend to be more reliable anyways, and on Mórag it just isn't a contest (in normal, at least). If I remember correctly Crossette works well with fusion combos as well. I would've put her on Nia or Zeke.

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