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Topic: Would you rather have a Smash 4 Deluxe Edition now or wait for a Sequel?

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Octane

@skywake I actually wouldn't mind if they removed a couple of characters in process as well. I'm probably one of the few people that don't believe that more is always better. So even if they end up with a few less characters than Smash 4, I'm fine with that. Keep some of the classics, remove a bunch of characters and add a few new ones. Add new items, new stages, and remove some of the old ones. Basically treat it like Splatoon 2. The base game is clearly a port, but they removed a bunch of stages, clothing and weapons and added a bunch of new gear, stages and modes. You could pass it off as a sequel, it would play differently than the last iteration, but you wouldn't have to start all the way from scratch.

It's unrealistic to expect the games to grow with each sequel, and to prevent the games from becoming 'too samey', I have no problem if they also remove a some of content. I think I would prefer this over a straight up port with a three new characters added to the roster.

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SilverEdge92

I'm content with waiting for Smash 5 and I've always said that with as much work and care Sakurai and his team put into Smash 4, the series can afford to skip a generation to give them the time away from it that they so rightfully and desperately deserve. Not to mention that by 2022, when the Switch's successor is on the market, or at least been revealed, there's bound to be so much more new material to incorporate and Sakurai's sure to have tons of new ideas after five years away.

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BigHiroKid

@iLikeUrAttitude I'm not saying Nintendo wouldn't be able to improve the game, it's just that when one development team works on a franchise too long, things tend to get stale.
It's like with movies: ever wondered why the third installment of a trilogy is often the worst? Mostly that's because the same guys have been working on that franchise for too long and they ran out of ideas.
Different minds = more voices = better products.

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Snaplocket

@iLikeUrAttitude 1. You're not Nintendo. Nintendo comprises of many many people.
2. Nintendo's known to subvert expectations so don't act like what you're saying is a sure thing.
3. Even if people are satisfied with 8 Deluxe most of them would still buy a new game.

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iLikeUrAttitude

@BigHiroKid Well I think you can make and exception with Nintendo seeing how Mario, Zelda and their other franchises are still years old and the new entries in the series always seem fresh.
Yes Retro has done a great job with Nintendo ips like Metroid and Donkey Kong, but what if the development team takes a different approach the fans may not like? I am more comfortable with Sakurai and his development team staying with Smash because they always seem to surprise people with the latest entry. Plus it may take a while for Retro to get use to the game and that would mean waiting longer for Smash.

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iLikeUrAttitude

@Snaplocket
1. I never said I was, don't strawman me
2. I was never stating my opinion as a 100% fact, I was merely sharing my thoughts
3. Of course some people are still going to buy it, but the sales would be noticeably less than the original

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StuTwo

@iLikeUrAttitude @57Snaplocket

I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it: there won’t be a new Mario Kart on Switch. There’s literally no point. 8 Deluxe is as good as they can possibly do on the hardware and it’ll continue to sell well throughout the life of the console.

Few people would double dip on a Mario Kart 9, it’d split the fan base online and if they want more from the hardcore it’s much better to just add DLC tracks.

If Switch sells 100 million units Nintendo will sell 30 million copies of Mario Kart 8 & it’ll still be one of the best looking games on the console 5 years from now.

Smash is very similar - there’s simply no point in putting out one version then a sequel on the same machine. You might think ‘leave it a few years for a more substantial sequel’ is a good idea but it’s a terrible one.

Like Mario Kart, Smash is evergreen. Since a late generation Smash will look and play very similar to an early generation port from the Wii U (which, graphics aside, is still very, very similar to Melee and Brawl) Nintendo would be crazy not to release the port.

That way it will have a much longer life and sell far more copies and they can use the staff for exciting new things like Smash was when it first launched on N64.

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iLikeUrAttitude

@StuTwo Thank you, there would be no point making a sequel when the deluxe version is selling so well right now. Same with Smash 4/5.

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kereke12

@iLikeUrAttitude I think a sequel of the game would be good. As we're in a new generation. So it would be wise for Nintendo to make a new one. The Switch doesn't need more ports.

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iLikeUrAttitude

@kereke12 I wouldn't mind a port seeing how so little people owned a Wii-U and as a result sales were abysmal and the games never reached their potential. I say bring on the ports for the best games on the Wii-U.

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Silly_G

I think Mario Kart 9 is still likely to happen, but it will need a new novelty to differentiate it from its predecessor, and I would be surprised if they created a new engine from scratch rather than using 8 as a template. I doubt it will release until 2019 at the earliest, but I suspect that it will come around once Nintendo has covered more of their other major franchises first.

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iLikeUrAttitude

@sillygostly Possibly. But I don't see how Mario Kart could look any better now if they were to make a sequel. Even if they somehow did make it look even more beautiful it wouldn't be much of a difference. As for the novelty it would have to be pretty innovative and intriguing for it to be a purchase from me.

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canucksfan989

@iLikeUrAttitude Copy Diddy Kong Racing already and give Mario Kart players flying vehicles make a cup based around flying heck go fully copy and throw in Hover boats and do a cup based on that. I'm honestly shocked Nintendo hasn't used any of that from the Diddy Kong racing game yeah they have the glider but super limited. As for Smash Bros i would love them to port it over but the longer it's not ported the more i feel they should just go for a sequel at least announce something about the Smash Bros series for the Switch.

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Matt_Barber

I'd think that a hypothetical MK9 could look significantly better for the simple fact that MK8 was designed around completely different hardware, and ported to the Switch very quickly after the launch. Certainly, when you look at racing games that get year on year iterations on other platforms the devs can usually get a significant improvement in the graphics by the end of the lifetime of the console without any changes to the underlying hardware, just by gaining more knowledge on how to best utilize it.

Also, the paid on-line service may necessitate a fresh start. It might be possible to patch MK8 to use it, but it's not something I'd be counting on.

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kkslider5552000

There's no way they're abandoning Mario Kart 8 online so soon. That's literally impossible for me to believe. And also would be profoundly stupid.

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skywake

@Octane
I tend to agree. Having a best of 3DS/Wii U and adding a few new things would make more sense than just putting everything in there and calling it a day. I'd be fine with them cut out some of the stages, items and trphies especially given that some of them wouldn't make sense on Switch. For example the stages MiiVerse, Find Mii, 3D Land, Mushroom Kingdom U and Woolly World.

But I don't think it makes much sense to remove characters from the game. Especially given that they've released Amiibo for all of them. Which ever one you exclude someone is going to be disappointed. I'd personally rather they'd keep all of them in and add to the list because the alternative is that one of my favourites isn't playable....

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Octane

@skywake Ehh.. I'm not too worried about that. If they keep adding new characters with each new iteration, there will always be a new favourite for someone. Meaning you can't ever go back, and the game keeps getting bigger and bigger until the character roster becomes ridiculously big. I'd prefer it if they cut 20 characters and added 10 or 15 new ones, rather than just the addition of two or three new characters. While you're losing some, there would be more new characters and the game would play a lot differently. I think there's potential in the idea of using the same game as a basis for future iterations, but I also think they should shake things up between releases.

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Matt_Barber

kkslider5552000 wrote:

There's no way they're abandoning Mario Kart 8 online so soon. That's literally impossible for me to believe. And also would be profoundly stupid.

I don't think they'll kill it off. It's just that if you want things like voice chat, invites, and all the other things you can pretty much take for granted with on-line games on other consoles they'll either need to patch it in or release a sequel.

I don't envisage MK9 coming out until MK8 Deluxe is at least a couple of years old though, probably more like 3-4 if the team develop a different game in the meantime, as Nintendo usually do.

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kkslider5552000

Oh ok, that make sense. No idea what they'll do in that case. I think they might patch it, simply because Mario Kart is a game that will keep selling for years and years. I mean, I saw Nintendo promoting Mario Kart 7 last year. 7! THE 3DS ONE FROM 2011! I'm not kidding. And I bet it still sold some copies.

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Silly_G

@kkslider5552000 : Can you blame them? It's still among the best selling 3DS games. I personally think it's ridiculous given the leaps and bounds afforded by Mario Kart 8/Deluxe, but with 7 still selling after all these years, Nintendo would be crazy not to ride it to death.

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