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CaptainToad777

erv wrote:

CaptainToad777 wrote:

Download only
no backwards compatibility

yeah, in such a case I would definitely pass on it

Funny, I'd advocate download only and I don't care much for backwards compatibility.

I hope it's a hybrid concept, preferably a multi-form-factor concept.

Well, I like backwards compatibility because I have lots of games for the wii and a couple for the wii u that I want to be playing in the years to come. If the nx isnt backwards compatible I would have to buy at least one more wii u just to be on the safe side. So bc would really come in handy!

As far as downloads are concerned, I prefer to have my games in physical form, even though I dont really sell them I still like the idea of having a physical good that I can resell theoretically, besides it looks good on a shelf, so probably I am a little bit of a collector...

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Rezal_Knight

Its whole selling point is a gimmick that nobody wants.

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The NX ends up being a critical darling from both fans and media alike, but it doesn't sell as much (or as many units) as the Wii U.

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JamesCoote

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Realistically? Nintendo sees that gamers don't want their hardware anymore and stops making hardware, they shift towards being a platform that can run on non-dedicated gaming hardware like PC and mobile, and maybe they continue innovating with new peripherals for these devices.

Not being sarcastic here, I genuinely believe that would be great for Nintendo. Focus on what they are good at - namely making games. The industry might be going that direction anyway what with PSNow and Windows 10 and the fact that technology (especially mobile tech) is moving so fast, any dedicated games machine is going to be out-of-date specs wise a couple of years after launch.

I'm curious to know why you think it'd be a bad idea?

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Realistically, the NX is a system the people did not expect and not in a good way so people do not buy it.

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That it "brings us things we never knew we wanted" like their E3 presentation did this year.

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Vee_Flames

Worst case scenario is quite simple: It doesn't sell well AGAIN. Who knows what will happen after that.

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kyuubikid213

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Worst case scenario is quite simple: It doesn't sell well AGAIN. Who knows what will happen after that.

Likely a 1/3 price drop, a release of some remastered GameCube games, and 20 free SNES and DS games to early adopters.

I dunno.

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rallydefault

@JamesCoote: People are against it primarily because it's an old company and one that a lot of us have grown up with. For Nintendo to go "only software" would be like having to say goodbye to the family dog - and ever since Sega had to do it in recent memory, it's kind of viewed as a "defeat," in a way (which we know is not the full story, of course). But, as a knee-jerk reaction, it would be a bit sad to see one of the "big 3" have to exit the grand arena lol it would certainly be the end of an era, but could perhaps be the dawn of great things.

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I hope NX will combine mobile, portable and home gaming into one machine.
NX must have a unique feature like Wii. But this time, something incredible and keep it up. Wii started out very well, but it's appeal faded gradually.
Nintendo did not realise the negative aspects of the Wii otherwise they wouldn't have called Project Café WiiU. The name Wii is not safe.

New, unique, easy to pick up, addictive. That's what we need. But NX does have the ghost of the DreamCast looking at it.

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It disappoints what's left of its remaining fanbase and the company gets hit hard financially. Nintendo resorts to Acclaim like final attempts to boost sales by adding strippers to its games though that doesn't help. Company files for bankruptcy and sells of its I.P.'s that are split amongst Sony and Microsoft.

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PikPi

@rallydefault: Explained it perfectly. I would be devastated if Nintendo dropped hardware all together, simply because it really would be such a monumental change in the industry only having 2 major competitors making hardware. I think the worst scenario with the NX, assuming it's a home console only, is that it fails because Nintendo yet again tries to emulate the Wii's success by making some needless hardware gimmick and is forced to become a handheld only hardware manufacturer. In which case, we would see a return to pre-HD Nintendo as HD handhelds will cost too much and we all know how they do not want their hardware to be cutting edge in terms of power.

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iKhan

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@rallydefault: Explained it perfectly. I would be devastated if Nintendo dropped hardware all together, simply because it really would be such a monumental change in the industry only having 2 major competitors making hardware. I think the worst scenario with the NX, assuming it's a home console only, is that it fails because Nintendo yet again tries to emulate the Wii's success by making some needless hardware gimmick and is forced to become a handheld only hardware manufacturer. In which case, we would see a return to pre-HD Nintendo as HD handhelds will cost too much and we all know how they do not want their hardware to be cutting edge in terms of power.

What's the point of having 3 console makers if they are all going to make the same machine anyway? Having a gimmick actually justifies making hardware in the first place.

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ekreig

kyuubikid213 wrote:

VeeFlamesNL wrote:

Worst case scenario is quite simple: It doesn't sell well AGAIN. Who knows what will happen after that.

Likely a 1/3 price drop, a release of some remastered GameCube games, and 20 free SNES and DS games to early adopters.

I dunno.

Ah yes, the groundbreaking Remember When You Didn't Hate Us Program.

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Thanatron

iKhan wrote:

What's the point of having 3 console makers if they are all going to make the same machine anyway? Having a gimmick actually justifies making hardware in the first place.

I agree with this. Although I think "gimmick" has a negative connotation.

PikPi

@iKhan: The gameplay, for one thing. I feel like that should be what Nintendo does all their innovation on. For example, there's no game like Splatoon anywhere else. People should be attracted to the games, not some weird controller used to play them. At the very least, Nintendo should keep their "innovations/gimmicks" optional, like the PSMove and such. If they really have confidence in them, then people will buy them.

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iKhan

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@iKhan: The gameplay, for one thing. I feel like that should be what Nintendo does all their innovation on. For example, there's no game like Splatoon anywhere else. People should be attracted to the games, not some weird controller used to play them. At the very least, Nintendo should keep their "innovations/gimmicks" optional, like the PSMove and such. If they really have confidence in them, then people will buy them.

How does gameplay justify the existence of three identical consoles? Without a unique control scheme, Nintendo could easily put their crazy game ideas on another console.

What's the last peripheral sold separately that had a significant impact? It doesn't matter how much faith you have in it, it's statistically impossible for every console owner to buy it. Unless every owner buys the peripheral, developers would be disincentivized to develop for it when they could cater to the entire install base by not using the peripheral.

When you bundle the peripheral, every developer has a reason to try it out, so people who want those kinds of experiences will actually get them.

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PikPi

iKhan wrote:

Operative wrote:

@iKhan: The gameplay, for one thing. I feel like that should be what Nintendo does all their innovation on. For example, there's no game like Splatoon anywhere else. People should be attracted to the games, not some weird controller used to play them. At the very least, Nintendo should keep their "innovations/gimmicks" optional, like the PSMove and such. If they really have confidence in them, then people will buy them.

How does gameplay justify the existence of three identical consoles. Without a unique control scheme, Nintendo could easily put their crazy game ideas on another console.

What's the last peripheral sold separately that had a significant impact? It doesn't matter how much faith you have in it, it's statistically impossible for every console owner to buy it. Unless every owner buys the peripheral, developers would be disincentivized to develop for it when they could cater to the entire install base by not using the peripheral.

When you bundle the peripheral, every developer has a reason to try it out, so people who want those kinds of experiences will actually get them.

That's a simple question. People would buy the console that has the types of games they would like to play. In Nintendo's case, it'd be more about platformers or more lighthearted games compared to the other two. And you make it sound like every console would be a 1:1 carbon copy of each other. Being in the same ballpark as each other in terms of power doesn't make them identical. Not to mention each console has its own set of features that really differentiates them. One of Nintendo's would be miiverse and whatever other little things it has. Why is it that we absolutely NEED some wacky control scheme and less power in a console? I find that impractical. As well as forcing a peripheral on everyone when not every game will need it. Just like the Wii remote and gamepad.

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iKhan

Operative wrote:

iKhan wrote:

Operative wrote:

@iKhan: The gameplay, for one thing. I feel like that should be what Nintendo does all their innovation on. For example, there's no game like Splatoon anywhere else. People should be attracted to the games, not some weird controller used to play them. At the very least, Nintendo should keep their "innovations/gimmicks" optional, like the PSMove and such. If they really have confidence in them, then people will buy them.

How does gameplay justify the existence of three identical consoles. Without a unique control scheme, Nintendo could easily put their crazy game ideas on another console.

What's the last peripheral sold separately that had a significant impact? It doesn't matter how much faith you have in it, it's statistically impossible for every console owner to buy it. Unless every owner buys the peripheral, developers would be disincentivized to develop for it when they could cater to the entire install base by not using the peripheral.

When you bundle the peripheral, every developer has a reason to try it out, so people who want those kinds of experiences will actually get them.

That's a simple question. People would buy the console that has the types of games they would like to play. In Nintendo's case, it'd be more about platformers or more lighthearted games compared to the other two. And you make it sound like every console would be a 1:1 carbon copy of each other. Being in the same ballpark as each other in terms of power doesn't make them identical. Not to mention each console has its own set of features that really differentiates them. One of Nintendo's would be miiverse and whatever other little things it has. Why is it that we absolutely NEED some wacky control scheme and less power in a console? I find that impractical. As well as forcing a peripheral on everyone when not every game will need it. Just like the Wii remote and gamepad.

I get why people may purchase this console, that doesn't mean the console's existence is justified. What does the consumer gain from Nintendo making a console instead of just publishing their games 3rd party? Seems to me like if anything, they lose out because they have to purchase a new device. In today's day and age, two consoles with similar power ARE almost identical because they will share a similar architecture. This isn't like the 1990's where N64 games and PS1 games looked distinctly different.

Again, you force the peripheral because if you don't, it won't get used. Developers will see that they can make more money by simply developing games for the included controller, and the peripheral will hardly get used. The developer may experiment to see if they can tap a new market (see Dance Central), but you would never see something like Skyward Sword, and there's no way games like Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, or Metroid Prime Trilogy would have supported motion controls. For God's sake Uncharted doesn't even support PS Move.

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