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Topic: Why the Nintendo Switch needs SD card save data backup

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DannyBoi

@subpopz Yes , Iagree completely. And I believe peoplewould still pay for the online service anyway.

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redd214

As someone who lost all his save files (200+ in Zelda, 60+in Odyssey, 100+in MK8 etc) I have wondered this myself. I backup my consoles/computers/phones monthly. Doesn't take very long and has bailed me out on numerous occasions. Can't wait for the cloud storage but really should have been at launch and even still there should be some way to manually back you saves up, it's 2018.

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DannyBoi

@redd214 Yes, this is exactly what I mean. In the wait cor the online service tolaunch, something like what has happened to you can and will happen. And if Nintendodid add it, would it really affect people buying an online subscription? People would still buy it for the cloud save, I certainly would. If they are that bothered, they could temporarly add SD card backup now, and then remove it when the online service launches. And the realtruth that SD card backup has not been added is because Nintendoare scared of hacking and piracy. They know what happened with the Wii and Wii U and do not want totake chances with the Switch, but even if the Switch got hacked through SD card, it wouldn't be that bad, and plus, once they realise hacking really isn't that much of an issue, I amsure they would add it. And if they do add it, we need it now, not when the online service launches.

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redd214

@DannyBoi agreed. And if not through the SD card at the very least you should be able to use a usb thumb drive when the switch is docked.

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SwitchForce

Wait so if I recall isn't the saves and data put to your SD card if you change the saved locations for the Switch or did I hear that wrong.

redd214 wrote:

@DannyBoi agreed. And if not through the SD card at the very least you should be able to use a usb thumb drive when the switch is docked.

That might be something Nintendo already thought of since it has 2-USB2.0 and a USB3 built into the Dock putting one on the Switch will be hard since it will stick out and be easily broken since it's not protected.

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DannyBoi

We need to start a thread that will get Nintendo's attention about this. Ideas anyone?

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DannyBoi

I am thinking of starting a thread called"Enough is Enough Nintendo! We need SD card backup" wouod any of you be interested in joining it? It is going to be a thread that is aiming to change Nintendo's stance on not allowing SD card backup.

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DannyBoi

Actually, I think they do check it, as I remember being told in an E-mail by Nintendo Life that they check for feedback.

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skywake

Shellcore wrote:

I understand that you personally would never use it. That's cool. Just don't presume no one else would.

Sure, but nobody used it on Wii U especially outside of threads where people are wanting to petition Nintendo for it's return. Infact because saves were tied to data you had people losing save data because their external storage device failed. Hey, but at least when that happened it was your fault for not backing up. IMO the fact that Nintendo is shouldering responsibility for saves is a huge step forward.

I personally don't care where the fingers are pointing. I just want everyone's saves backed up regularly. Wishing for manual backups isn't going to result in backed up saves. It's a false sense of security and a way for Nintendo to shift the blame

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DannyBoi

I have started a thread called Petition to add SD card backup to Nintendo Switch if you want tojoin it.

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skywake

Shellcore wrote:

Piracy and hacking are the reasons they give. Switch has been hacked. So, logic would dictate that Nintendo would put in SD saves as there would be no remaining reason not too...unless...£$

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/07/rumour_revised_switc...

One attack vector existing doesn't mean you open the floodgates

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Shellcore

@skywake Nintendo is the only one out of the big three to not have this functionality. Your main arguments have been 1. You don't use it and neither do most people and 2. Nintendo make hardware vulnerable to hacking to the point they cant implement this. I get you like the Switch, so do I, but both arguments don't make a great case for leaving out an option that the competition supplies. If the hacking is such an issue, why does it not concern Sony/Microsoft? Or is it just Nintendo being sloppy?

skywake

@Shellcore
I think people not using it is a fairly good reason not to be upset about its absence. And in terms of piracy and hacking, just because the others don't lock it down so much doesn't mean Nintendo are stupid not to. Your point before was that they shouldn't bother at all because the system is already hacked. Read the article I linked to. Just because people have hacked it doesn't mean they're going to give up the fight.

I'd also add that as I understand it only Sony allows manual backups for saves. Both Sony and Microsoft have cloud saves but I believe only Sony have the option to backup your saves locally. And in Sony's case they replacing the entire HDD is a well documented upgrade while with the Switch replacing the internal storage isn't even theoretically possible. They all lock this down, Nintendo locks it down more than the others because they can. Simple as that.

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Shellcore

@skywake Ah yes. Correct on Microsoft not offering local. However, their cloud saves are not locked behind a paywall. My beef isn't so much about how Nintendo backs up data, its the fact that it is not offered to all like on other platforms, subscription or not. Completely agree that manual saves aren't the ideal solution. My ideal would be cloud saving outside of subscription on all platforms. Currently only Xbox offers this. PS4 does not, but they do offer manual SD saves. Nintendo has no options at all now. In the future, there will be an entry fee.

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Shellcore

Shellcore wrote:

On PS4, I take advantage of PS Plus for cloud saves. If I didn't want PS+, then I would back up manually.
On Switch, I will have to use Nintendo Online for cloud saves, because I can't back up manually.
Pretty much sums up the situation and why Nintendo hasn't taken steps to change the status quo.

@skywake Haha. Come on through. That was my opening point.

LzWinky

I fail to see how $20 a year is a dealbreaker.

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Shellcore

@TheLZdragon It certainly isn't a deal breaker for me whilst its $20. It still may be for some people. For me, its the principle of putting that functionality behind any kind of paywall when the competitors don't (be in manual or cloudsaves). What happens when Nintendo put it up to $30-40? When does it become a dealbreaker? I think the point deserves debate although I appreciate that you disagree.

DannyBoi

Now would be the perfect time for SD card backup. There are new Switch consoles with a different chip that is much more difficult tohack. So adding it in now wouldmake sense. I sincerely hope Nintendo adds it. And plus, with the old Switch, it is completely hacked now, soadding it wouldmake hardly and difference. And the new Switch, well much more difficult to hack, so again adding it wouod make sense.

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DannyBoi

Just to clarify, I have absolutley no problem with paying for cloud save, other consoles make you pay for it, so fair game. What I absolutley have a problem with is having the only way to back up save files being cloud save. Lets say I have a PS3, I am not interested in PS Plus, but I can insert a USB flashdrive and manually backup save files. Sameon PS4. On the Switch, if I was not interested in NintendoSwitch online, I would have noway of backing up my save files. That is the problem.

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