Topic: The Nintendo Switch Thread

@Ralizah Well, if I remember correctly the System Update version 3.0 added the ability to jack it up that high, and that message. Prior to that, the max volume was the limited version. I'd say it's probably a potential legal issue.

@ThanosReXXX Remember, these are the kids that are supposedly smarter, more well educated, with fresher, newer ideas, and are more capable of working in the new global information economy than us.

And they have hunched backs, heart conditions, food allergies to all food, myopia, and deaf to frequencies over 800MHz like an 80 year old.

@Ralizah That's because most Nintendo handhelds (or all?) had analog volume controls and you cant put a limiter on that. Plus, they effectively no amplification at the out jack and fed raw output of the converter into out. On any full size headphone even at @32ohm you had to float it near max to get normal volume out of it. It didn't output enough voltage to warrant a limiter even if it could have had one. Switch, being an nVidia Android slate at its core has a little more sophisticated audio, and more importantly, digital volume controls that can actually be limited Plus the volume limiter standard hadn't really existed much in the wild back when 3DS debuted. It's a newer feature out there.

Switch can get reasonably loud even into some of my lower impedance full size phones. 3DS/Gamepad never could.

@NEStalgia You forgot shorter attention spans and an ever diminishing lack of real world social interactivity skills...

@ThanosReXXX Yeah, I don't get the connection that they seem to be ever "smarter" academically, and thus more revered, professionally, yet seem to be incapable of dealing with people entirely. Basically that means they're great at memorizing things. But isn't that what Google's for?

Medical is the worst place to see it in action. young doctors vs old doctors. Young doctors know all the latest studies, by heart. Can cite off the top of their head all the terms, names, associated cases, studies, researchers, timelines, technologies, and the littany of testing criteria in lockstep order. Much more academically gifted than the grizzled old timers with far more "knowledge" stored in their heads. The problem? They can't actually figure out if they need to apply any of that so they just apply all of it, always, when a cursory glance could tell them it was unnecessary. Society is far more educated, far more academically accomplished, and ultimately infinitely more incompetent. And then who will need anyone when robots take over? Memorization won't help much when your competitor is plugged into Google by default.

@NEStalgia I'm sorry, but hasn't that always been the case? Of course a doctor fresh out of school isn't going to have much practical knowledge, and of course they'll have fresher textbook knowledge. That's not something that changes in society have caused.

@link3710 I'm pretty sure @NEStalgia has never been to a real hospital, either that, or he's watching too much House M.D.

@link3710 It's not a matter of the usual expectations of experience versus inexperience. It's a whole difference in thought process. I just used medical as a stark example, but a way of thinking that is a complete lack of observational and deductive reasoning and instead a reliance on repeating a process and viewing the measured results as compared to a rubric. The frustrating part is that is now rewarded as it's been designed as a standard. Those who are good at analyzing, deconstructing, and adapting to any situation are given the sidelines in favor of this vaunted new method which is more an echo of automated approaches than actual human skill and aptitude. Not in all cases, but it's a sad overall societal trend. And one that will inherently implode at some point, as actual automation continues to replace pseudo-automaton humans.

That’s why it’s called a Medical Practice, not a Medical Perfection.

I agree about the life and social skills, but I equate that to folks never being faced with a real opportunity that forces them to develop it. I started working taxable jobs at 16, stocking a grocery store, cleaning college campuses, fast food, retail, mechanics, alarm systems, switchboarding. I picked up lots of stuff from everything. And being that well rounded trained me to think outside the box, not just be constrained by paper words. I think it’s like the difference between empathy and sympathy.

these gersh dang millenials! Get off my lawn!

@JackEatsSparrows That's kind of the point. It's now medical perfection. You perfectly follow the pre-perscribed steps, and it was therefore perfect even if it goes wrong It was the experts that got it wrong! Not the practitioners! (Note that those criticisms of medical don't apply to surgeons....that's the one branch of medical I have respect for still, and is made entirely of those that still can deduce rather than follow checklists, and have to think fast on their feet and apply a lot of risk based decisioning.)

Anyone else an Asimov fan? It always reminds me of Foundation, where the imperial princeling comes in lording it over the foundation people, and citing that true research no longer needs direct observation, when all the information to form opinions and analyses are already right in the library, already documented by the experts.

Reality doesn't work on textbook thinking, and the supposedly groomed people for most leadership roles know only texbook thinking and remain blissfully unaware they're not really the ones that make their disasters not collapse on them.

@NEStalgia Looking at the reactions, you might have come up with a better example, but I think I know what you mean.
Personally, I find society becomes ever quicker and more flighty, and the attitude of the people goes toe to toe with it. But that's probably also what our grandparents and parents think about our generation. The only difference is that technology has taken far more leaps, and bigger leaps in a shorter time span than two generations ago, and perhaps we humans aren't really quite as equipped or capable as we think we are, to be able to deal with all that.

Might even be a good explanation for the increasing amount of burnouts, stress cases and what not.

Ya'll remember the Twilight Zone episode "The Obsolete Man"? Man, is that applicable for sure.

@ThanosReXXX It's an unfortunate mix of a technological/industrial revolution and associated displacement, and socio-economic interests retooling younger minds (not just current kids but a good 25+ years of kids) while malleable to be more useful to those in control exploiting the maximum benefits of that and/or simply building their hubris riddled perfect society. But the pace of it is disastrous where one generation gets the seismic shift in culture between them that is usually split between 3-4 generations to the point of being fundamentally different societies. Every despot goes for the young minds. Once they shape the thinking of the young, they just have to wait for the old to die off and they have defacto engineered all of society. In the mean-time, one group gets screwed. For now its ours. I'm not certain it will remain that way though. Though it may remain that way for too long into our lives to turn it to an advantage.

Phrases like "the sharing economy" and "the gig economy" really say all there is to be said about the wherewithal of the resulting populace.

@NEStalgia Yep, and because all the millenials and younger people are too busy pimping their social media accounts and walking around the globe with their faces stuck to their smart phone screens, they'll only notice, once it is already too late, if they ever realize it in the first place.

A prime example of people thinking the world is accommodating them, when in fact something else entirely is happening, is the short sci-fi story called "Enchanted Village" by American writer A.E. van Vogt.

I'll put a link up for the curious and/or interested. It's only 13 pages, and for sci-fi fans, it's pretty much a must-read. You might like it as well, @JackEatsSparrows.

I'm interested to know if, when any of you read it, you get what happened there...

Here's a link to the pdf file of the story:
https://epdf.tips/the-enchanted-village.html
It's a free download, all you have to do, is tackle a CAPTCHA check.

@ThanosReXXX Thanks, I'll have to try and check it out, probably tomorrow evening.

@NEStalgia I am quite sure surgery are the absolute most check list based of all of medical. Everything is marked and checked, they have clear procedures how to handle things if it goes south. Nothing is left to chance, since it is one of the most invasive things you can do.

The general practitioners are the ones that I am most impressed by. They do not have one specialisation, but they need to have knowledge in basically every field. Regardless whatever illness people have, whether physical or psychological, cancer or broken bones, they are the ones responsible to figure out your problem as fast as possible so you can get the help you need.

And while you rabble against millennials, remember that studies have shown it is older people that are mostly prone to believe everything they read on the net, they are the ones scammers steal from and fake news are targeting.

And it isn't millennials screwing you, it is wall street, plain and simple. The entire economy is geared towards never ending growth. If it isn't growing, politicians gladly throws money their way. How will the banks ever learn if we always bail them out?

@ThanosReXXX I'll have to give that a read later!

@Therad Surgery is like warfare: The strategy goes out the window the moment the shooting starts. Yes it has a checklist, yes everything is marked with procedures, but once things actually go in motion none of that matters and everything has to happen from a core understanding of the underlying realities, not the documented scenarios of what "should" happen because no two realities end up the same. It's inherently left to chance, no matter the flowery language patients are told, because it's not possible to not be. The competency of the surgeon in handling that chance based on what's in front of them is what makes it work. Surgeons absolutely represent the best of what medical can and should be. And they're of course in short supply.

The GPs are largely database comparators who need to know what specialist to farm it to. They have that extensive memorized database in their head as well, but not the real-time "analyze, strategize, react" mentality surgeons must have. It's not to say it's an easy job, it's not, and it's largely thankless, but that's really not close to the surgical pedestal. And these days a lot of that has been reduced to scans and measurements that are then sent to an outsourced lab to analyze.

As for scam targeting, yes, but that skews quite a bit older, for people who were used to a trusting world, left their locks open and it was never a problem, and everyone wasn't always out to get them. They don't deserve the ridicule for falling for the scams, instead of mocking them we should be questioning ourselves as to how we (or they) built a world that went so downhill from that, to this.

I agree with you on the rest though, wall street, government, global corporate autocracy, and their weapons, the departments/ministries of education building the "millennials/genZ" into their useful tools.....are indeed responsible. The kids are a symptom not an original cause.....but they're also the tools to further it, though I more or less already mentioned that

This thread turn into old man millennial bashing lol. Well not all of us are mindless entitled drones but anyways.....

How bout that nintendo switch huh

@Therad Older people, yes. But not middle-aged people. The people that fall for internet-fraud are either illiterates, who could be of any age, or far less tech-savvy people, who can't see the difference between an official e-mail and a fake one, even if their lives depended on it. That's why they're also such easy victims.

But the majority of the people between say, 30 and 50, is tech-savvy enough to know what they're doing with a computer and the internet, and isn't nearly as influenced by social media and/or smart phones as the younger generation is. That's pretty much a proven point already. There's entire campaigns going on in various countries around the world, trying to get the kids off of their phones and in to the real world again, and that isn't happening for nothing.

But, like @NEStalgia, I do agree with you on the rest, concerning the government's machinations, and so on. But on the other hand: what else is new? Even in the Middle Ages, governments were already screwing people over. That'll probably never change, no matter which century we happen to live in...

Unless at some point, a benevolent race of aliens actually does visit our planet to make us see the error of our ways...

@redd214 Luckily, there's always exceptions to the rule, and I'm glad that there are, but in general, most of the "bashing" does have a valid point, but that doesn't mean all is lost. Well, not yet, anyway...

And the Switch is a wonderful little console, and I'm having tons of fun with it.
Still debating whether or not I should get 1-2 Switch, seeing as regardless of whatever else it is, it's still the showcase title for both the console, and the JoyCon.