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SLIGEACH_EIRE

Milanoir - Switch Announcement Trailer

Milanoir, an original pixel-packed action game inspired by the masterpiece Italian crime movies of the 1970s, is expected to launch on Nintendo Switch™ in early 2018.

Set in the violent underbelly of Milan, Milanoir is a story of greed, betrayal and revenge that plays off classic films like Caliber 9 and Almost Human. Sneak, choke and shoot through the seedy criminal underworld and survive breathtaking vehicle chases to evade and eliminate those standing between you and the man who framed you. Milanoir’s pixel art aesthetic paints the unforgiving city of Milan in bright and bloody detail with a funky ‘70s-style soundtrack to cement the tone of the era.

The game has been designed with the unique capabilities of the Nintendo Switch™ in mind, and allows two players to complete its entire action packed campaign in Co-Op mode on one console with each player using one Joy‑Con™ controller.

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@Grumblevolcano
I think so, too. Give it a couple years and I think physical cartridges/discs will be hard-to-find novelties and mostly just for the big first-party games. Like it or not (and I generally do NOT like it), the future looks pretty darn digital for media. It'll be like the music scene with those dang hipsters and their new vinyl albums lol

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OorWullie

That Milanoir looks really good. I just had a look to see if there were any reviews for it on Steam but it's not out yet. It was actually announced for Switch back in December though.

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Switch even convinced me to buy digital, and I was the biggest advocate for physical gaming I have ever known of.

Granted, I still buy physical every opportunity for the collection but I don't even play those games now. The only ones I play are the ones I buy digital on top of the physical, and I limit those to only the best of the best.

I think a lot of people's eyes are being opened to the superiority of a digital copy. There still a large chunk of people hanging on to their outdated love of physical copies (like me, still buying physical even when I got it digital) but, even those people are starting to come around. If Bayo 1 eshop placement is based on both physical and digital, and the second game is right beside it with only digital then I can only assume the game has sold about as many digital copies as it has physical.

But I am disappointed in Bayonetta's performance in EU/JP. Especially considering we had a two month gap after Xenoblade 2 for people to recoup their wallets and catch up on their backlog... people should've been thirsty for this release. And mostly because it's just a dang good game in the order of masterpiece. But I do think the game will do better in the US and it does seem to have extremely strong digital sales (even Skyrim and Xenoblade failed to hit #1 spot, and both of those games seem to have sold over 1 million copies, Skyrim hasn't been confirmed to yet but, I'm willing to bet it has given its comparable eShop/Amazon chart performance with XC2). And I think this game will have legs and continue to sell, at least as much as Xenoblade 2 has. Hopefully it'll stay in the Amazon top 100 for 6-12 months. Heck, it's #19 in the overall Video Games category right now. That's significantly different than what we're seeing in other regions. Seems the US is where most of the new Nintendo gamers are. PS4/X1/PC gamers who bought a Switch as a secondary console and lapsed fans from SNES-GameCube era.

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Knuckles-Fajita

@JaxonH From what we have seen it seems Bayonetta is performing much, much better digitally, both of the games in fact.

Disappointed in the retail presence yes, but in the UK the writing was on the wall, no one wants to sell a niche Nintendo product here.

And yeah, physical is becoming outdated, more so Blu-Ray as we really should be moving beyond that when the PS4 was new. But no, stuck with incredibly slow discs that need to install to get any semblance of speed, and capped at 50GBs in size, meaning games have the same issue Switch games have - not all there physically. They just wont advertise that fact.

I am very impressed with the Bayonetta digital sales.

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Knuckles-Fajita

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Thanks. Love you too.

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FragRed

@YummyHappyPills Physical is becoming outdated you are correct, but until we live in a world where internet speeds are decent for everyone, it will always have a place. In fact, look at music - physical sales have actually been seeing a kind of come back and that's a market that been dominated by digital for over a decade. I think the main problem with digital is the pricing of games, more so than internet speeds. Also, if I am not mistaken, isn't Japan a country that loves physical?

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Physical media is NOT outdated.
Btw, how do we save our documents if there is NO CD / DVD / Blu-Ray ?
They are still needed.

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Knuckles-Fajita

@FragRed It will always have a place if the mediums used for storage keep up. Blu-Ray doesn't cut it anymore, nor did it in 2013.

And digital cant undercut retail due to certain country regulations with retailer undercutting on part of the manufacturer selling for a lower price.

And another thing is Japan may love physical games. They may not. We need to see concrete digital numbers, something that charts should do as reported by MediaCreate et al

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IceClimbers

January NPD is in:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/npd-january-2018-monster-hun...

Switch was the best selling hardware.

Software charts:

1. Monster Hunter: World
2. Dragon Ball: FighterZ
3. Call of Duty: WWII
4. PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds
5. Grand Theft Auto V
6. NBA 2K18
7. Super Mario Odyssey**
8.The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild**
9. Mario Kart 8**
10. Madden NFL 18
11. Star Wars: Battlefront II*
12. Assassin’s Creed: Origins
13. UFC 3
14. Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
15. FIFA 18
16. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse
17. The Sims 4
18. Splatoon 2
19. Dissidia: Final Fantasy NT
20. Need for Speed: Payback

Strong results for both MH World and Dragon Ball FighterZ. Switch software continues to have legs. Xenoverse 1 charting is a little odd. Dissidia bombed.

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Knuckles-Fajita

@Anti-Matter Hard Drives. Flash drives. SD Cards. Discs are not the be all end all, and losing them would transition us to larger capacity and faster storage mediums, at least for the examples you mentioned in every day general life, as well as cutting down on the number of mechanical parts a device needs such as a spinner, laser, trays etc. for reading or writing data.

Magnetic tape used to be the norm. So did punch cards that were fed into a room sized system that calculated mathematic algorithms and gave the results a day or so later.

Then they were made smaller, more efficient and with less parts and faster to use. We got floppy disks. Then we got bigger with CDs, then DVD, the Blu-Ray. Mechanical hard drives still exist and far exceed a Blu-Ray both in speed and size, the latter guaranteed, the former dependant on manufacturer and classification just like SD Cards.

The inevitable following of technology is to a trend that the older, larger, slower more inefficient mediums of storage, reading, writing and interpreting data electronically are to be moved on from in favour of smaller media as they become cheaper.

I invite you to read the rest of my comment, as I seem to have to a lot of people across both this and the sister site, so you don't focus on one part of a larger post for the purpose of pushing a narrative onto me. My posts are not single statements, rather larger paragraphs of multiple points.

My post did not call for the death of physical media - just the death of outdated media. Namely, physical media as a concept can continue to exist, just not Blu-Ray. The reason I say this is that Blu-Ray caps at 50GB. By 2013, the introduction of the PS4 and Xbox One, we should have moved to the next thing, because even then games were running into "The Switch Problem" in that the game isn't fully on the disc, there is in fact a download.

Call of Duty World War II does in fact exceed 50GB in size. It wont be all on that disc. What does that tell you? And with the push to 4K we see games go upwards of 100GBs. Are we going to get multi-disc games on the next systems or will we finally move on to Blu-Ray XL or another storage format?

Again, physical media as a notion will likely always be a necessity for certain things. For gaming however, for the purpose of this forum and discussion, the currently outdated Blu-Ray has to be replaced.

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RETRO_J

"Btw, how do we save our documents if there is NO CD / DVD / Blu-Ray ?
They are still needed."

@Anti-Matter Oh, I don't know, I here USB flash drives are all the rage these days..

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Apparently 3DS hardware sales last month are the highest they've been in a January month since January 2013.

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Knuckles-Fajita

@SLIGEACH_EIRE Well I'll just be on my merry way then. They already hate me on PS so this is no loss evidently.

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@JaxonH It's a niche title that was ported from a dead console that's being sold for 60 dollars. What did you expect?

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It wouldn't surprise me. They could easily just call it "Super Smash Bros for Switch", include all the content from the 3DS version, tweak some characters, add all-new single-player content, and add some characters like Ice Climbers (who were cut only because of the 3DS's hardware limitations in 3D mode) and the Xenoblade 2 protagonists.

Smash 4's only sore point for me was the lack of really good single-player content. Smash Run was fun, but nothing like Subspace Emissary sadly. What was there was good, but I just wanted more. Everything else about Smash 4 is just perfection.

You never know - if they port it to Switch, they might decide to add a Subspace Emissary mode (or something similar) to the game?

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe got a beefy new Battle Mode - it'd be cool if they put an equally substantial single player mode in Smash!

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JaxonH

Switch is a monster.

Highest NPD sales for January, and it didn't get a single notable release all month.

This is just more proof that the system is going to wildly succeed, irrespective of who gets on board or not. I'm sure companies like EA see Nintendo as a thorn in their side. How much easier would it be for them if they just had two platforms to release games on. You develop one version and click a button and it recompiles for the other platform. Spend a month ironing out the kinks and presto, multiplatform release to a market thirsty for their products. I'm sure EA is going out of their way to leave Nintendo hanging because, I'm sure in their egotistical minds, not supporting full stop is a death sentence, or at the very least creates a steep uphill battle to climb.

And yet, here we are and Switch is consistently topping the NPD charts, even when it doesn't have any games and even when it's going up against some of the biggest releases of the year. You know what that means, EA/Activision? Means Nintendo isn't going anywhere. It means get on board or get left behind. It means that regardless of what you choose to do, this train is leaving the station at maximum velocity, even despite your lack of support.

The good news about that is, they'll be cornered into supporting the platform more going forward. Like it or not. Cause not everyone at these companies lacks sense, and if there's one thing they understand it's the language of money and success. There will be people at these board meetings chiming in with "So what about Switch? How can we profit from this? We SHOULD be profiting from this, in some capacity".

Also, 3DS sales are very surprising. The system just refuses to die. Most of the spenders for software have moved on to Switch, but with as many people buying the system as we are seeing, there might be a whole new gamership on the platform to buy new releases.

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@YummyHappyPills Can't tell whether you're seriously saying that or you're just joking around, but if you're actually serious: me and most other people on this site (and probably the other site) don't hate you, we appreciate your input and opinions. So please don't feel discouraged and/or leave this site or the other site. Keep posting, you have many interesting insights.

I agree with what you're saying about Blu Rays. Actually though, more than the storage, speed is the issue with Blu Ray discs. The disc speed is so slow that the games need to fully be transferred to the hard drive in order to properly play them on PS4 and Xbox One. In other words, the discs currently just function as huge keys to allow you to play the game, as the actual game is on your console, not the disc IIRC. A much smaller USB stick would work perfectly fine since it solely needs to act like a key, but I think they'll keep the disc drive for use as media players.

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