Topic: What controller do you want to see bundled with NX?

There's a reason I visit a Nintendo news site every day. While the Playstation has some franchises I would like, it's not enough to justify spending money I don't have on another console. And Microsoft has virtually nothing for me.

And that second point is exactly why I just want a regular controller again. I'm sick of playing a game normally having to be something "optional" that may or may not be included as a control scheme.

@TeeJay:
A) what @iKhan said
B) My comment wasn't to say the software you want is on those two systems, my comment was about the hardware you want. I am sorry that was confusing to you.

But hardware comes tied with a selection of software, and the hardware you are suggesting comes at the cost of not playing basically all the games I like, so it's a bit silly to suggest another console altogether as if they have Smash Bros and Mario and Zelda.

Look, all I'm saying is I just want to play games without jumping through hoops and having to deal with whatever "innovative" gimmick Nintendo thinks up. At least for one generation. Is that a lot to ask?

@TeeJay:
You can ask for that, but you already have competitors giving you that and that is what I pointed out in my comment. Is it ok that when you ask for something from a certain company, can someone point you to other companies already doing that?

I also think it is a little redicolus to say you need to jump through hoops, especially on Wii U. What hoops were there that you had to jump through to play Smash or 3D World with a "standard" controller? Wii had a little bit of a hoop, but Wii U was even less so. Zelda on Wii did require motion movement but we haven't seen a new Zelda on Wii U yet, so hard to judge on that. Nintendo can do a unique controller and a "standard" controller at the same time.

It kind of is. What I want and what you want are directly at odds. If Nintendo only bundles a Dualshock 2 style controller, I don't get any games whatsoever that control how I want to. I can't switch platforms because neither Sony or Microsoft go down that route. Literally my only option would be to mod PC games with compatibility.

He isn't wrong for wanting a traditional controller. Even though the PS4 and XB1 have traditional controllers, Nintendo will still release a different system with different games.

As for my answer, I actually really like the Wii Remote + Nunchuk combo. If Nintendo releases something like that as the controller for the NX, I'll be very happy.

Well as it's a handheld; two circle pads, touch screen, 4 shoulder/trigger buttons, gyroscope, accelerometer and XABY buttons.

I didn't say he was wrong for asking for it, I was just pointing out there are other products that deliver the hardware he is asking for.

But not the software, which is more important.

But while the software is more important, that doesn't mean the controller isn't important at all.

That's like someone asking for a burger with cheese, but instead of giving them a cheeseburger you say "Well, there's a hot dog stand down the street. Hot dogs don't have cheese. "

It's a totally different and unrelated thing you are suggesting man. The only similarities is that they're both gaming systems.

Your comment only talked about hardware, my comment only talked about hardware. You asked for a Cheeseburger made by Taco Bell, I told you Jack in the Box has Cheeseburgers, you are arguing the ingredients are different. That is find. You want the Nintendo software on a Standard controller, you can have that opinion. I have a different one. You said, "I just want a regular controller as the primary controller for once." and I said "But you have that on two consoles already." I didn't say you were wrong to ask for it.

Yea, some of you guys are WAY too hung up on having a "different" controller - let's hope Nintendo focuses more on the gosh-darned GAMES rather than brewing up another unique yet ultimately unsuccesful controller. Xbox/PS have been and are currently very successful, and their controllers are a part of that. And you can't argue that the current Pro controller bears a striking resemblance to both of the competitors' controllers. Nintendo isn't stupid.

Heck, even PC gamers will use an Xbox controller for a bunch of games...there's a reason for that.

I'd like a standard Pro Controller, but with 3ds/next gen handheld connectivity so we can still interact with the Miiverse/Internet with ease + use on certain games like future Mario maker. Although I agree in some areas the Wii U GP is a failure, it did open up a lot for us to use and I think we'll miss it if it goes.

I think that is because a lot of games are designed for a controller, not mouse and keyboard.

@DefHalan: I can tell neither of us are gonna change our stances even if we talk each other blue in the face, so I think we should probably just agree to disagree and stop here.

I will say though your counter-analogy made me laugh.

The reason I'm "hung up" is because motion controls do such good things for games. Any game where you have to aim a cursor is unequivocally better with a motion controller. Boring repetitive combat is made much more engaging when the player is engaged in a similar physical motion at the same time. It's a lot simpler for younger kids and non-gaming adults to catch on, making multiplayer a lot more inclusive. It also creates new genres of games (Just Dance), and allows for completely new types of gameplay (Skyward Sword, The Force Unleashed, Wii Sports). The second you stop doing things like this, you lose all of that, except MAYBE the games like Just Dance.

I'd argue that SonySoft have succeeded in SPITE of their controller. The DS4 and XB1 controller are fundamentally the same controller as the Dualshock 2 from nearly 15 years ago. Very few new technologies (video games are pretty new, being around for less than 40 years) go that long without seeing a significant change. Especially when the current device is far from flawless.

Anyway, Nintendo has seen both success and failure with unique control schemes. I hope that they are again successful like with the DS and the Wii.

I laughed writing it... I think we can be friends again lol

I want the NX controller to be a mix of the Gamecube controller and the Pro Controller, and maybe sell the Gamepad as a optional controller.

@DefHalan: No, no, see....you're not getting my point. On PC, you can literally hook up any controller under the sun. People have worked out drivers for non-traditional controllers (including Wiimote, I believe), joysticks, fight pads, etc. In other words, PC gamers could use ANY controller out there.

But, overall, they choose to use Xbox controllers. In a sea of controllers, when ALL are available to a "third party," it's quite telling that the third party tends to choose one particular controller for their games. One that doesn't have some wonky setup, crazy gyro controls, a screen in the center of it, etc. Almost makes you think that people still tend to prefer a good "ol' fashioned" controller...

That was my point, sir.

@iKhan
See, I don't know what to say to you, because I just disagree with you on a fundamental level, and that's ok. I HATE motion controls, and there are lots of people who share the same feeling. You LOVE motion controls, and there are lots of people who share the same feeling. It's as simple as that. We have totally different viewpoints, but neither are wrong. It's up to Nintendo to decide which way they want to go.

@rallydefault: I think that has a lot to do with games being designed for console (360 being the most popular when that started happening) and microsoft making it super easy to use the 360 controller at the same time

@DefHalan: I think it certainly has most of the impact, but at the same time, PC gamers are an enterprising bunch, and if they REALLY wanted to use a certain controller, word would get around and lots of people would be doing it. So even amongst the entire selection available to them, a "traditional" controller remains the favorite.