Topic: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Very minor thing I noticed during the Ridley trailer: One of the matches was with HP since Link dies on the spot after Ridley's tail attack. Nothing new or special, just a cool detail.

Yeah, it being built on Unreal Engine 4 straight up confirms it's new. Entirely different engine lol.

Everyone ever returning was pure hype, and Ridley was an AMAZING surprise. Looking forward to it.

The Invitational having both Melee and 4 pros makes sense now, as the game clearly is somewhere between those two trying to cater to both fanbases with the return of directional air dodge, which will make Melee players VERY happy, plus 8 player smash returning.

Also looks like they're issuing new Gamecube controllers. The Smash logo on the one they showed is different from the ones they issued for Smash 4.

Anyways, deconfirmed characters (assist trophies):

• Waluigi
• Rodin
• Lyn
• Krystal
• Bomberman
• Knuckles

I missed that this is on Unreal 4...huh. What was Wii U on?

@Joeynator3000 Custom engine

@DarthNocturnal Havok is solely a physics engine.

Unreal is straight up a game engine, so it does physics, rendering, animation, AI etc. Havok is just physics.

So for instance if a game uses Havok for physics it still needs to use something else for...well everything else.

For instance Sonic Generations has Havok physics, but uses the Hedgehog Engine for everything else.

@Snaplocket Doc doesn't use FLUDD like Mario, and also has a new down aerial, Pichu also has several different normal attacks from Pikachu even before considering changes from Melee we haven't seen, same for Young Link who has the multi-stab Link ditched in Brawl.

The credits at the end where for every game shown at the presentation. Dark Souls and Fortnite were also mentioned.

Smash Ultimate probably isn't using Unreal 4.

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate to run at Full HD, 60fps on both TV and Portable modes:
https://nintendoeverything.com/smash-bros-ultimate-runs-at-fu...

https://twitter.com/SrPelo/status/1006597091521638400

So is the game a true sequel or a re-release?

@JayJ It's obviously not a re-release or a port.

I think people are getting confused because a lot of content is being 'reused', but really that content spans ALL Super Smash Bros and has nothing to do with SSB4, and also all of it has been remade, not just remastered. This is NOT a port at all.

@Randomname19 Well thank you for this lovely little bit of nightmare fuel.

Seeing all the "Daisy-Ridley" jokes people have been making all day makes me feel less bad for thinking that was the interior of Starkiller Base Samus, Mario, and Mega-Man were in at first and they were setting up for a Rey or Kylo reveal.

And is it just me, or does Sakurai look like he lost weight?

Character redesigns? Reusing and updating old characters? Adding new stages? Adding new modes?

Totally a port

90% recycled assets, mechanics and content from Wii U version?

Totes not a port.

I wish the general population were this concerned about how films are preserved and mastered. My God. Just enjoy the damn game.

I'm so happy rolling will now be more punishable, that was a big problem in some online matches. Also glad to see the Monoto Arts are easier to use, and the fact that EVERYONE IS BACK!!! It's awesome. I'm really hyped.

Wouldn't most games be ports then? Hmmm...

Smash Bros Ultimate is gonna be cool! I want this as my birthday and Hanunkah present! Anyone else getting Smash Bros Ultimate?

@Silly_G It's not a port. It's running on a different engine (Unreal), tons of redone graphics, many animations have been redone or added (see those screenshots of DKs expresssions?) The entire game's been rebalanced, we have at least what, 6 characters who were missing from Smash 4 and 2 new ones so far (with another likely after the tournament, and two or three more at Directs throughout the year), new stages, a completely new UI, changed movesets, the entire speed of the game is different, many mechanics have been revamped (including shielding, dodging, final smashes, aerials...), and most likely all the modes are going to be different from Smash 4. That's no port.

Watching the Tournament now. Magnet Grabbing is less effective! I'm so interested, and I want to play this so bad.

Changed movesets alone don't make this a port. It's a fighting game, the core of gameplay lies completely with how fighters play. And added little tweaks like punishing defensive play and readding directional air dodging while even closer edging towards Melee speed.

So please, stop calling this a port.