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GoldenGamer88

Maxz wrote:

Not sure if anyone's been watching the Splatoon Koshien matches

Not me. I don't really care for the competitive scene, no matter the game. Plus, there are those games where I can't just sit down and watch other people play them, I gotta get up and play my own copy. Splatoon's one of them, Stardew Valley as well.

That aside, this must've been a hilarious match. I'd so love to know what those guys were thinking when they walked offstage lol.

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I'll be getting back into this with you guys soon. Now November 25th has passed and Im not so depressed I can balance my site, youtube, game development and playing games.

Which means Splatoon!

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@GoldenGamer88 Yeah, I get this. There are lots of games where getting too into (or going anywhere near) the competitive scene makes me feel weirdly uncomfortable.

But with Splatoon, it's such a wonderfully dynamic, creative game that I've found I actually enjoy watching even when
I'm not playing. And I feel I've learnt a lot from it too.

I sort of accidentally watched the Koshien games, as the official account has posted the links to them. Basically, they drive around Japan in a truck filled with gaming stations, which then unfolds into a little open air theatre, and all the people from that region who want to watch or play assemble. It's quite a spectacle!

But yeah, I'm not going to shove competitive nonsense down anyone's throats! I just tuned it, and watched the schoolgirls sweep the field, so I wondered if anyone else had caught a match.

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Zyrac

Y'know, I quite enjoy watching and learning from competitive Smash, but competitive Splatoon kind of intimidates me because it involves teams that are actually coordinated and constantly communicating with each other. This may sound strange, but I think I prefer the usual bumbling attempts to work with people you can't really talk to. It's less stressful to me, and I guess I don't want to be shown how pathetic it is by comparison.

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Maxz

@Zyrac Ha, I am the exact opposite. I find competitive Splatoon a surprisingly easy, playful and comfortable thing to watch, whereas competitive Smash scares the living daylights out of me. It makes me want to shrink into a little ball and question if anything I know is real.

I suppose it depends on how closely you can relate to what's going on. I love Smash, but I put it into the 'fun game with friends' camp, whereas Splatoon has sort of driven me into a more competitive online-based mode of thinking by design.

But both games can be enjoyed both ways, and that's pretty magical.

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BMO_Advanced

I was at the national Splatoon 2 championship finales at the dutch comic con and I was very intimidated by their immense skill and coordination. It's nothing compared to true Smash Bros competitive though, just watch this video for instance... magic?:

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GoldenGamer88

Maxz wrote:

whereas competitive Smash scares the living daylights out of me. It makes me want to shrink into a little ball and question if anything I know is real.

Haha, same! Sometimes, I like to watch some Melee experts duke it out only to be so surprised every time by all that crazy stuff these people can pull off that my jaw is lost beneath the sofa for several days. I wouldn’t even dare to dream to fight like them someday.

Haven‘t really gone out of my way to watch competitive Splatoon but if there‘s an educational value to it, even though you prob won‘t be able to pull of the same with Team of randos, I think I‘ll check‘em some out sometime. Even if my self-esteem in regards to my own skills will get a few scratches lol.

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Zyrac

@Sir_Anthony Whoa, uh... just to make sure everyone's clear on this, that is not legitimate Smash gameplay at all.

(It's mostly competitive Smash 4 that I like. The sheer tech skill required to be any good in Melee makes it less relatable, and I don't like games with really broken balancing. But I'll stop going off-topic now.)

So, Splatoon 2! I played Splat Zones on Blackbelly Skatepark for the first time today, and oh man it was intense. I no longer resent this stage being in the game. Two zones really is more fun.

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Maxz

@GoldenGamer88 I'd cautiously recommend it. Just getting a feel for the sort of rhythms really good players use can be interesting. And because Splatoon is more than just 'sick tech kills' you might be able to take something away with regards to general strategy, even if you can't replicate the really technical play that happens in the heat of battle.

I dunno, I've never been a super competitive player in any field (the closest I got was DPPt Pokémon, and even then I enjoyed making weird teams that would occasionally end up being effective against the current metagame). But I watched a high level Splatoon player sort of by accident once, and then found it surprisingly intriguing. And it made my own play hugely better.

So yeah, maybe it'd be worth watching a game or two, just to see how the other half lives! The Splatoon scene seems pretty chill in comparison to some others, so hopefully it shouldn't be too intimidating.

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Not sure if anyone's been watching the Splatoon Koshien matches, but a team of primary school girls (8-14) just ripped up the battlefield and it was amazing. Four slightly sheepish looking men walked away from the stage.

Can't say I'm all that surprised. Kids that age can be amazing at video games when they practice. My kid is nine, and she wipes the floor with me every time we play ARMS. Beats me at two out of every three games. I think she would be just as good at Splatoon, but she doesn't get into it as much as the fighting games.

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Just broke level 50, but the raised level cap has robbed the achievements its sense of 'finality'. Oh well, it's still proof I'm a massively Splat Nerd.

Also finally broke the 2000 League Power barrier for the first time ever, which was gratifying! Mainly down to having a great teammate to pair up with, but I'm still really proud of it! We ended up with 2073.5 in the end, and we started the session 70 minutes in.

I've mainly stuck to standard chatless Ranked modes, but there's a lot of fun in going for a League campaign with a voice chat and everything. Not that I want VC to come into Ranked modes. All all. But when it's someone you trust, it can add a human element to things (and occasionally be useful from a tactical perspective).

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shani

Zyrac wrote:

Huh, in Tower Control on Mako Mart, the spawn point is in a different position than usual. Do any other stages do that?

Not quite sure if other Splatoon 2 stages do as well, but some stages in Splatoon did have a different spawn position in ranked.

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Grumblevolcano

Seeing as 2018 is approaching, do you think Nintendo will open up matchmaking to worldwide when the paid online service goes live? I'd imagine it would be even more difficult to find people to play with at certain times of the day otherwise.

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Zyrac

@Grumblevolcano Matchmaking seemingly is global despite claims to the contrary. You may not meet players outside your region very often, but I've got a few Japanese users in my recent players list right now, and I've seen Inklings wearing generic Spatfest Tees in battle at times when there was no upcoming Splatfest in my region. These things have definitely happened in ranked matches too, so it's not just people joining their friends.

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Based on what I've heard from the Splatoon 2 Discord, it's ping based or something like that.

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@-Green- yeah, so you are more likely to be with people in your region due to ping, but other regions are possible. Australian players for example will often be with Japanese while Europeans will probably rarely face Japanese players and I think NA players have a somewhat more likely chance. League battles are more likely to find other regions due to fewer players though. And I believe that matchmaking in league goes by the host’s ping if you want to find people from a certain region.

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It's been several months and I still haven't completed the single player campaign. Is it just me or does anybody feel like it's unnecessarily difficult? I never have enough to upgrade weapons or purchase secondary weapons. I'm halfway through sector 3 and I can't even upgrade my standard gun to level 2. Everything is just so expensive and I HATE the parts the game forces you to collect to upgrade your gear. They made it so complicated to upgrade your gear that it makes the single player campaign so much harder than it needs to be. My default gun should NOT be level 1 this far in. What the heck am I missing here?

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@AlternateButtons Why not take the time to complete previously beaten levels with newly unlocked weapons and gather eggs while you're at it? If you beat all levels with a given weapon you can unlock it for multiplayer.

But honestly, other than the first Hero Splattershot rate of fire upgrade, none of the upgrades feel necessary at all, just gravy.

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@meleebrawler So grinding basically? Gotta say, I'm not a fan of that. In the original game, I could just go from stage to stage and have enough eggs to keep my gear up to date. Now I have to beat stages again but with a different weapon? That sounds like padding to me. It should just let me progress how I want, I don't want to be forced to use all these different weapons. Outside of this mode, I will NEVER play with sniper weapons or the splat roller. It's dumb that they force it on you like that.

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It's not difficult, and I'm not sure how it's preventing you from progressing. It's tedious if you want to be a completionist, but other than that you can get by really easily with just a Level 2 upgrade to Fire Rate on the Shooter.

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