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skywake

BiasedSonyFan wrote:

There are several more reasons than that, but based on the subjective perspective of gamers during the time of the Wii U launch, I'll accept this claim as one of the reasons.

Well not having big exclusives at launch was the main difference between the Wii U and other Nintendo console launches. In terms of third party support its launch was arguably one of the best for Nintendo. I'll put it this way, here are the two big exclusive games for previous Nintendo console launch windows:

NES: SMB, Duck Hunt
GB: Tetris, Super Mario Land
SNES: SMW, F-Zero
N64: Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64
GBA: Super Mario Advance, Mario Kart: SS
GC: Luigi's Mansion, Smash Bros Melee
DS: Mario 64 DS, Nintendogs
Wii: Wii Sports, Twilight Princess
3DS: Nintendogs, OoT 3D
Wii U: Nintendo Land, New SMB U
Switch: Zelda:BotW, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Yes, comparing games like this is subjective. But I don't think I'll get much argument when I say that compared to other Nintendo console launches the Wii U was one of the worst in this regard. If not the worst. And comparatively the Switch is pretty high on that list.

Yes, having great exclusives at or near launch isn't a guarantee of success (I think the GC had the best launch). But neither is having all the third party games (the Wii U did great on that, it failed). So basically my point was and is that the Switch is not a repeat of the Wii U. How that plays out is anyone's guess.

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diwdiws

RE 7 reviews are great so far! Cant wait to play this

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banacheck

There is no simple answer to why the Wii U failed it was a combination of things, some we already know and others we'll probably never know. Its the same for run away success [Wii, PS2,PS4] we'll never know why some console's succeed and others fail, if you knew these answers you would be a very rich man.

banacheck

skywake

@banacheck
This is true but we can rate the volume/type/quality of content vs previous launches. And in that regard I'd say the Switch ranks among the best Nintendo console launches for exclusive content, the Wii U on the other hand was one of the worst launches for exclusives but was great at getting third party content at launch. So it's not history repeating. The Wii U probably would have got a game like RE7, that wasn't the issue. The issue was that it didn't have a Zelda, Mario Kart or Splatoon until months or even years later.

IMO there are two categories of Nintendo console launches.
Guns blazing, multiple games near launch just about everyone gets:
NES: SMB, Duck Hunt
GB: Tetris, Super Mario Land
SNES: SMW, F-Zero
N64: Super Mario 64, Wave Race 64
GC: Luigi's Mansion, Smash Bros Melee
Wii: Wii Sports, Twilight Princess
Switch: Zelda:BotW, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe

Damp squid, if you get the console later you'll probably ignore the first lot of games:
GBA: Super Mario Advance, Mario Kart: SS
DS: Mario 64 DS, Nintendogs
3DS: Nintendogs, OoT 3D
Wii U: Nintendo Land, New SMB U

Which group its in didn't impact how well it did in the end. But the Switch and Wii U are in two entirely different camps. I don't think there's much argument to be had about that opinion. I think most of us would agree.

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mav-i-am

gamermole wrote:

@mav-i-am
a decent RE on a handheld would be awesome!

Havent you played resident evil deadly silence on the ds and resident evil revelations on the 3ds?

Both brilliant games

Nope.

Switch games list,

Legend of Zelda BotW, Human resource machine, NBA Playgrounds, Street Fighter 2, Super Bomberman R, Snipperclips, Overcooked, World of Goo.

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mav-i-am

gamermole wrote:

I put it down to bad marketing and the fact that noone actuelly knew the Wiiu was a seperate console. most thought it was a gamepad controller for their existing wii system.

this!

Then they did it again with the "New 3DS"

Switch games list,

Legend of Zelda BotW, Human resource machine, NBA Playgrounds, Street Fighter 2, Super Bomberman R, Snipperclips, Overcooked, World of Goo.

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rallydefault

@diwdiws
Yea, reviews are excellent, but it looks absolutely terrifying. I wouldn't be able to play it and actually look at the screen lol

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gamermole

@mav-i-am If you have a 3ds you need to play revelations its great.

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Turbo857

Not at all bummed by RE 7 not coming to the Switch. The game was made to take advantage of the PSVR and Nintendo hasn't even hinted at embracing VR yet.

Nintendo systems historically do not get every big third party game out there. Dreaming for the day when Nintendo will finally join Sony and Microsoft's arms race is a waste of time. They will continue to drive innovation with their games and hardware and will receive significant third party support as Switch sells.

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Emperor-Palpsy

Capcom are just playing things safe, and avoiding making any promises. This is perfectly understandable given the Wii U's fate, but I would imagine that if the Switch sells in good numbers, they won't have any hesitation in bringing it (or Origins) over.

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kkslider5552000

I understand, especially since Resident Evil on GCN was a fairly consistent sales disappointment.

So let's be optimistic and hope this will be like the Resident Evil 4 Wii port in that case. Getting that late port was a great thing for everyone involved.

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rallydefault wrote:

@diwdiws
Yea, reviews are excellent, but it looks absolutely terrifying. I wouldn't be able to play it and actually look at the screen lol

Same. I saw a trailer two days ago, and I haven't had a good night sleep since...just too damn disturbing...I gotta play RE4 again to erase the memories...

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Turbo857

@kkslider5552000

"So let's be optimistic and hope this will be like the Resident Evil 4 Wii port in that case. Getting that late port was a great thing for everyone involved."

My thoughts exactly. RE4 Wii edition was the definitive version imo. Really wish I coulda played Revelations with the Wii remote and Nunchuck setup.

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TuVictus

Not to be that guy, but resident evil 7 has some pretty great graphics. I'd Be surprised if the switch could run it as it is on those consoles

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KirbyTheVampire

Operative2-0 wrote:

Not to be that guy, but resident evil 7 has some pretty great graphics. I'd Be surprised if the switch could run it as it is on those consoles

No way it could run it maxed out. Maybe at lower graphical settings. Nah, tablets that can run games like RE 7 on max settings are a solid 10 years in the future.

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rallydefault

Operative2-0 wrote:

Not to be that guy, but resident evil 7 has some pretty great graphics. I'd Be surprised if the switch could run it as it is on those consoles

Hey man, the truth is the truth.

But as a guy who games on PC a lot, it's consistently shocking to me what consoles manage to do with the relatively paltry power they have, even the PS4 Pro. I could build a PC with PS4 Pro-level "power" for probably around 500 bucks, which is nothing in the PC gaming world.

The magic in these beasts is the power they can squeak out of them because of streamlined operating systems and wonky architecture that you just don't find on PC. (I think the PS4 Pro has some kind of cpu/gpu combo going on, for instance.)

Point is - yea, you're probably right. But just wait a bit and see what kind of craziness dedicated devs will be able to squeeze out of something like the Switch. Just look at something like the N64 early and late, or even the PS2 early and late - it's like you're looking at games running on totally different systems.

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Octane

@Operative2-0 Not to be the other guy, but great graphics are not easy to compare. They look great because the game is mostly closed environments. Xbox One is able to run the game, so I think the Switch should be able to run the game as well. Maybe it doesn't look as good as on the PS4? But if it's optimised for the Switch, it should be pretty close. The real issue is that it's going to be a difficult sell on the Switch.

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kkslider5552000

Considering they put Modern Warfare and (admittedly unfortunately) Dead Rising on Wii, which had a significantly bigger gap then Switch has from its competition, it's far from impossible for this to be on Switch. It's whether Capcom thinks it's worth putting time and money to downgrade and port properly.

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rallydefault

@BiasedSonyFan
Erm... I disagree. A lot. On the hardware side of things, at least.

Consoles still save a lot of juice over a PC of similar build when it comes to architecture (and UI/OS optimization). Again, PS4 Pro is a good example of this. It has a custom cpu/gpu (normal for most consoles) that actually combines the two onto the same die. That's not typically what you're looking at on PC.

You do have a point with software normalization, though.

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skywake

If we're going to talk about what the Switch can run it's worth putting the relative gap in performance. Especially when compared to previous generations "underpowered" systems:

PS2 -> XB: ~3x more powerful
Wii -> 360: ~20x
Wii U -> PS4: ~5x
Switch -> PS4: ~2x
PS4 -> PS4 Pro: ~2x

Typically ~10x is a generational leap. ~2x is more like the difference between some AA and a higher resolution/framerate for the same content. I'd argue any game they can get running at 1080p/60fps on PS4? They should be able to get it running on Switch.

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