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toiletduck

GameOtaku wrote:

That and you feel obligated to play every game on the service at least once a day if not more since you are only renting them

I sincerely hope for you that you don't use Spotify 😂

toiletduck

GameOtaku

@toiletduck
Nope. Seriously, most of the games in the service I would never give the time of day. Be honest of the games offered on the service how many of them do you actually play at all. Id wager only a small handful and given that you have now paid $40 for 2 years of the games (around 50 or so not counting the SP versions which nobody plays) if you were to pay VC prices to own them is still wager you'd come out better on VC.

Edit: I meant to say play every game and use the service everyday.

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Cotillion

@GameOtaku For me, not many. Just the given classics I'd bet most people play. The Marios, Zeldas, etc.
The NES selection was a lot of garbage they couldn't give away with a few good ones peppered in. The SNES selection was better, but still severely lacking and also came with the crappy announcement that they can't even be bothered to update it monthly now. So, yeah there's a lot of games on it, but a large majority I don't play even though they're being given as a 'bonus'.
I really can't blame 3rd party for not giving a whole lot to this service (whether their choice or Nintendo not seeking them out, we don't know). But third party is offering better in the eShop with their own collections of ROMs or remasters (Castlevania, Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Sega Ages, etc..) and I am buying those up and playing them lots more than the ones in the NSO service.

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NintendoByNature

My biggest problem is when i dont physically buy a game, be it in store it through the eshop I'm less likely to play it as much. For instance, I started playing super Metroid and got a good 2.5-3 hours then links awakening happened along with many other games so i stopped. Had i bought it, I would've saw it through. I find myself thumbing through the snes app and play a game for 30-45 min a pop unless its zelda or maybe Mario. I've also played a bit of demons crest but not enough to keep me entertained to finish. Now bring up the castlevania collection like @Cotillion said and i finished every game but Simons quest which I got about halfway through. All because i bought it, I believe.

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RedderRugfish

GameOtaku wrote:

Id wager only a small handful and given that you have now paid $40 for 2 years of the games (around 50 or so not counting the SP versions which nobody plays) if you were to pay VC prices to own them is still wager you'd come out better on VC.

If NSO offers at least good 4 NES games or 3 good SNES games for each year you're subscribed, then you're doing better price wise than if you bought them separately on Wii U. If not, then it is worse value.

I'd wager that for most people, NSO is currently better value than VC. But seeing as we don't know how often they'll be adding games now, it remains to be seen whether or not it will stay this way in the long run.

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RedderRugfish

@NintendoByNature I can definitely see that, for me it's often the same way. I'm more likely to stick with a game longer if I paid actual money for it. This is a big reason why I don't use emulators or flash carts.

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NintendoByNature

@RedderRugfish yep, exactly. I feel like i owe it to myself( and wallet) to finish a game I just paid for. Even if it's only a $5 game.

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GameOtaku

@RedderRugfish
It depends on what you call a good game. My VC on 3ds alone stands around 80 games. But it's games I picked out from what was offered and nothing I wouldn't play. The game selection available is lacking in a lot of areas. I for one love the nes games but I only recently in the past few years started playing snes on my Retron.

We can't rely on third party collections either. The Genesis collection didn't even have Sonic 3 or S&K. The Castlevania Collection didn't have Dracula X, Legends or the Gameboy Kid Dracula. The contra collection was also missing Contra Force and Alien Wars for gameboy. Why isn't the Addams Family games like Festers Quest being added since the new movie is coming out soon? Or the Batman games for Joker? Could they not look into something like that?

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GameOtaku

@NintendoByNature
You can't get that with NSO though. There's multiple resources out there to find out if a game is good (or to your liking even if it's panned critically, I like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde for example but you may laugh). I'm not on a constant connection (not a very good one) all the time so NSO is a joke and a money gobbling monster in my eyes and needs to be slain.

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NintendoByNature

@GameOtaku yea i hear you. It's not for everyone. I'm not even sure if it's for me at this point. Maybe when things slow down I'll jump back in to play more snes games.

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Toy_Link

GameOtaku wrote:

@RedderRugfish
It depends on what you call a good game. My VC on 3ds alone stands around 80 games. But it's games I picked out from what was offered and nothing I wouldn't play. The game selection available is lacking in a lot of areas. I for one love the nes games but I only recently in the past few years started playing snes on my Retron.

We can't rely on third party collections either. The Genesis collection didn't even have Sonic 3 or S&K. The Castlevania Collection didn't have Dracula X, Legends or the Gameboy Kid Dracula. The contra collection was also missing Contra Force and Alien Wars for gameboy. Why isn't the Addams Family games like Festers Quest being added since the new movie is coming out soon? Or the Batman games for Joker? Could they not look into something like that?

I'm sure Konami will release more collections...

It's the only video games (that's not pachinko) that still makes cash that's not football or Yu-Gi-Oh!

I'm betting that Konami will make a new Silent Hill soon (since they seem to want to get back into console development) and it'll be an absolute train wreck.

Where am I going! Nowhere, unless if I say otherwise!

Cotillion

GameOtaku wrote:

We can't rely on third party collections either. The Genesis collection didn't even have Sonic 3 or S&K. The Castlevania Collection didn't have Dracula X, Legends or the Gameboy Kid Dracula. The contra collection was also missing Contra Force and Alien Wars for gameboy. Why isn't the Addams Family games like Festers Quest being added since the new movie is coming out soon? Or the Batman games for Joker? Could they not look into something like that?

@GameOtaku I don't disagree with your dislike of the NSO offerings as I said above, but all of these cases you mention here are well outside the realm of Nintendo doing anything. Nintendo literally have nothing to do with any of those games besides they played on a Nintendo system (except Sonic 3+K, which was on Genesis).
Those games belong to other companies. Sonic 3 & K belongs to Sega, so they need to release it, whether it's on NSO or as an eShop release. Same with the Contra and Castlevania games, Konami has to release them as they are the owners of that property.
Nintendo could seek out more third party games, but if they say no, there's nothing they can do. And I don't blame third party for not, given the choice between what would likely be a tiny fee to have them on NSO versus selling the games themselves on the eShop. And the effort for Nintendo to go after these games wouldn't be worth it. Besides, they're barely putting the minimum effort into it with their own games, so reaching out for more third party is quite a stretch, IMO.
Some of the omissions by third party are bizarre, to be sure. Like with it's upcoming collection, Capcom will have released every mainline Mega Man game on modern systems......except Mega Man & Bass. Why did they omit this one title amidst all the collections? Who knows. But it falls squarely on Capcom.
Sonic 3+K is considered by many to be the pinnacle of Sonic games, so why is Sega sitting on it?

As for Batman and Addams family, they'd be in the same licensing hell that TMNT and Goldeneye are in : the creators of those games no longer having distribution rights for the licensed properties and/or don't care to seek out permission to redistribute them.

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DarthNocturnal

@Cotillion

Sonic 3's issues are likely music related. License related specifically, as I've heard Michael Jackson and Brad Buxer sampled their own songs when composing for the game.

The issue only seems to have come to light in new new 10s, as there were plenty of compilations with Sonic 3 & Knuckles in the years before. The devs behind the re-release of CD, 1, and 2 (and Sonic Mania) haven't been able to give 3 the same remaster treatment (although a proof-of-concept build does exist), and At Games, prior to be removed from the Genesis Mini project, said that music license issues were directly to blame for it not being included on the system.

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@Cotillion
The solution would be to bring back VC. Then third parties would get more money for individual sales. Heck I even bought megaman 5 & 6 on VC prior to the collection on 3ds and that didn't cause me not to double dip. The Disney afternoon games that released last year never came to switch despite being nothing but a collection of nes roms!

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zufa86

Looking for a NSO family account, please DM me if you offer one which is ready to use immediately.

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NotTelevision

@NintendoByNature I’ve found this weird middle ground where I’ll use my gold points to purchase a month or so, play everything I want, then not renew. I had it three months last year for NES and Smash, then recently renewed more one month and completed all the SNES games I wanted.

Not the most economically viable model for online players, but it sort of helps you finish what you started since you have a limited time.

I’m willing to jump back in when there are 3-4 SNES titles worth it.

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NintendoByNature

@NotTelevision yea its not a bad a idea. Thankfully I got this year for free until next September via twitch prime. I honestly don't think I'd renew it otherwise. My main driving factor would be more games on the service but theres so much other stuff to play that I don't really feel like opening the app. I might consider opening up demons crest again since I'm a few levels in already but I'm also working through ori and soon to be gaucamelee 2. So I'm pretty packed.

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NotTelevision

@NintendoByNature Sounds like a lot of good games you are juggling there, so don’t blame you.

Ohh yeah Demon’s Crest. Good but very short little game. Fantastic soundtrack on that one. Perfect for your vampire themed cocktail parties in October.

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scoobdoo

It shouldn’t matter that Nintendo online is cheap — it’s the single biggest rip-off in gaming. No voice, no messaging in 2019!! Absolutely scandalous.

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Grumblevolcano

@scoobdoo Nope, sure it's not the best service but it's not even the biggest Nintendo rip-off (that easily goes to Mario Kart Tour).

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