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Canadian_Ronin

Octane wrote:

@Canadian_Ronin Well, the entire point is the turn-based combat. And I'd argue that it's one of the few franchises that does this well. If you get into the nitty-gritty details of the battle system it becomes a very interesting and complex game. Remove that and the result isn't a Pokemon game anymore.

Of course it'd still be a Pokemon game - franchise's like Final Fantasy have moved away from that style of combat and they are still those franchises.

I don't hate turn based games, but that style of game play has become reserved for smaller, more nitch games like Bravely Default, I am Setsuna etc... the only other big name RPG that I can think of that retains that style of gameplay would be Dragon Quest, and even that game is MUCH more popular in Japan then the rest of the world (where Final Fantasy is more popular). Pokemon isn't that, its a HUGE franchise, arguably Nintendo's biggest. And this is the first time it will be on a HD, home console - I don't think an upgrade to the battle system (and I'm not talking about a completely re-imagining or turning it into an action RPG or anything like that, just want to see a powerful system handle more "stuff" at once) is out of the question or turns the franchise into something different.

Did OOT turn the Zelda series into a different series? Did Metroid Prime? Mario 64?

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Octane

@Canadian_Ronin Those games you mentioned went from 2D to 3D. Zelda is still an action adventure game. Metroid is still an adventure / shooter, Mario is still a platformer. Doing away with turn-based combat in Pokemon games would like doing away with their types or something like that. I don't think anyone wants that.

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MarcelRguez

Canadian_Ronin wrote:

Of course it'd still be a Pokemon game - franchise's like Final Fantasy have moved away from that style of combat and they are still those franchises.

Quite literally the worst example possible. FF has one hell of an identity crisis.

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Bolt_Strike

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Yeah, Pokémon is about going out on an adventure, traveling the lands, visiting neighbourhoods and foreign areas, making friends, capturing interesting and cute battle pets. It's about collecting them all and being the strongest and best there ever was.

If not completely open-world it should at least have some real huge areas for tons of Pokémon to roam and hide, and I'd like if they get away from the top-down to a 3rd person perspective.

Exactly. Exploration is such a major part of the core formula that they really need to put focus on it again.

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Personally I liked how they managed 3D gameplay in Poképark Wii 1 & 2, but was bored by Pokémon Colosseum and Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness.

I do think Pokepark, especially 2, has a lot of potential and I wish they would do more with that gameplay. Probably not a true sequel because people keep thinking it's a crappy mini game compilation, but a spiritual successor that keeps the battling system, goes open world, and feels more like an adventure would be a welcome addition to the series.

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MarcelRguez

One thing that crossed my mind is that, if this game isn't just a Sun/Moon port, it might be something more similar to the Colosseum series. In some aspects, like the pool of available Pokémon, those titles would be easier to make today, and it would allow them to make a technical foundation for future, full-fledged Pokémon games to be based on.

Maybe I'm not giving these guys enough credit and they'll surprise us with a "complete" Pokémon game from the start, but I doubt it. I'd prefer this option to a simple HD port, though.

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JaxonH

What Reggie said was further clarification that this is a mainline Pokemon game. If there was any doubt before, it's gone now.

And I thought this wasn't happening, so ya I did doubt it. The only reason I ever thought it might in the first place was the rumor, but we still had 20 years of historical precedent working against it, since Pokemon has never made the jump to a console. When they announced Pokken Tournament, I think everyone was pretty convinced it wasn't happening. Figured Nintendo decided Switch was doing well enough and didn't need to spend their trump card.

Whether Switch is replacing Wii U and 3DS is unknown at this point. Think it's pretty clear they want to have both Switch and 3DS, and who knows what'll come after. I used to think it was replacing both, but now I'm not so sure.

Regardless, this is huge. Pokemon is a juggernaut, and having the first core entry on console, in HD... this game alone will sell millions of systems for sure. And since Switch is hybrid, the game loses none of it's appeal. It's maybe not pocket monsters but still very much portable.

Pokemon was the one series I never played through. I always said I'd commit to playing if it came to Switch, and I will. This will be my first Pokemon.

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Octane

@JaxonH Well, the Switch is a handheld console too technically, so it only makes sense. Don't know why they keep the 3DS on life support, but maybe they truely believe they cater to different market. Even though it's pretty clear that the Switch is going to replace the 3DS eventually.

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At first I thought for sure Switch was replacing both. But then they kept saying no, we want to support both, and all these awesome 3DS games keep getting announced, then Reggie was like "yup, we're greedy, and we want 3DS right alongside Switch" and I was like well, that settles that.

But eventually, it has to. 3DS can't last forever. Although it could pull an 8 year run like GameBoy. But I wonder if, come 2019, once we're 2.5 years into Switch's lifespan and it's in its prime and rockin games left and right and has 25-30 million install base, if they'll announce a new Switch mini for the pocket handheld market. Or maybe a dual screen HDS. Switch would already be on an unstoppable trajectory, and if they made it share the same OS and uses an X1 chip, games could run across both. Which would ensure it has a legendary lineup at launch.

Idk. We'll see I guess.

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@Octane 3DS is right now what Xbox One S and PS4 Slim are.

The cheaper budget option. Switch is positioned as the premium at twice the price.

The difference is, they play different games so both have a wider reach than the standard/premium model of the other two

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I don't think they will change the turn based system. It's what makes Pokémon, well, Pokémon, an easy to play but hard to master. FF is a bad example considering it has one hell of a crisis, each new entry gets more rítmica than the previous one.

I hope for good 3D graphics, it not open World. We'll have either the eight gyms or something like the Alolan trials, but all linear.

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MikeTS

Fantastic news. I can't wait for this. I played Colosseum and Gale of Darkness on the GameCube and loved both of them, I actually completed Gale of Darkness last year while the Switch was still called NX and not much was known about it.

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NaviAndMii

I'm absolutely dying* for it to be an open world - seeing all of the Pokémon going about their business in their natural habitats would be an absolute game changer! ..the turn-based combat could stay - I just want to see Pokémon in the wild being Pokémon! ..and livelier NPC's! - fishermen actually catching water-type Pokémon before our eyes!

Keep the fundamentals the same (if it ain't broke, don't fix it!) - but use the extra tech to really bring everything to life like never before! ..that's my Poke-dream!

*slight exaggeration

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Forest

Open world, could be kept turn based or not. Customization and open world, freedom, is whats realistic. Aim it for an adult audience most of us are older since generation 1, the fan base that sold the most copies came from Red and Blue version. Sun and moon was just blah . Zelda looks nice.

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Forest

JaxonH wrote:

What Reggie said was further clarification that this is a mainline Pokemon game. If there was any doubt before, it's gone now.

And I thought this wasn't happening, so ya I did doubt it. The only reason I ever thought it might in the first place was the rumor, but we still had 20 years of historical precedent working against it, since Pokemon has never made the jump to a console. When they announced Pokken Tournament, I think everyone was pretty convinced it wasn't happening. Figured Nintendo decided Switch was doing well enough and didn't need to spend their trump card.

Whether Switch is replacing Wii U and 3DS is unknown at this point. Think it's pretty clear they want to have both Switch and 3DS, and who knows what'll come after. I used to think it was replacing both, but now I'm not so sure.

Regardless, this is huge. Pokemon is a juggernaut, and having the first core entry on console, in HD... this game alone will sell millions of systems for sure. And since Switch is hybrid, the game loses none of it's appeal. It's maybe not pocket monsters but still very much portable.

Pokemon was the one series I never played through. I always said I'd commit to playing if it came to Switch, and I will. This will be my first Pokemon.

You doubted a switch version because you don't have passion for the game. Do you think the creators want to see there creations on a home console open world before they die, when that day comes they will sell the franchise to another company that will make it happen eventually! Why not now.

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@Forest There is no chance that The Pokemon Company will ever sell the Pokemon franchise...

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Canadian_Ronin

Octane wrote:

@Canadian_Ronin Those games you mentioned went from 2D to 3D. Zelda is still an action adventure game. Metroid is still an adventure / shooter, Mario is still a platformer. Doing away with turn-based combat in Pokemon games would like doing away with their types or something like that. I don't think anyone wants that.

Pokemon would still be an JRPG about collection, training and battling pokemon. You'd still be assembling teams of pokemon and issuing commands during battle - just updating how that works - kinda like going from 2D to 3D when technology allowed.

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Fandabidozi

I'm not expecting anything more than a next step in the franchise, like we usually get (which is great btw) not a BotW quantum leap.
However, I'd like a much more open world, like gen 1 as opposed to S&M where you can't move for cutscenes at some points.

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