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TeeJay

@MasterBlaster Thank you, someone with some sense.

@Yellowtails I don't know what to tell you man, dropping the VC is just such an insane idea that I feel like the fact that you would even draw such a conclusion means that there's no point in even trying to convince you otherwise, so I'm going to stop the discussion here. Good day

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DefHalan

TeeJay wrote:

@MasterBlaster Thank you, someone with some sense.

@Yellowtails I don't know what to tell you man, dropping the VC is just such an insane idea that I feel like the fact that you would even draw such a conclusion means that there's no point in even trying to convince you otherwise, so I'm going to stop the discussion here. Good day

But @TeeJay

EDIT: I was expecting you to say, "I said Good Day!"

Edited on by DefHalan

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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Don

Nintendo probably will take the cue from Sony and Microsoft and not allow downloaded games to be transferred over to the next console like the case with XB1 and PS4.

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TeeJay

DefHalan wrote:

TeeJay wrote:

@MasterBlaster Thank you, someone with some sense.

@Yellowtails I don't know what to tell you man, dropping the VC is just such an insane idea that I feel like the fact that you would even draw such a conclusion means that there's no point in even trying to convince you otherwise, so I'm going to stop the discussion here. Good day

But @TeeJay

EDIT: I was expecting you to say, "I said Good Day!"

Oh. Didn't get the reference. If it is a reference. Idk

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DefHalan

TeeJay wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

TeeJay wrote:

@MasterBlaster Thank you, someone with some sense.

@Yellowtails I don't know what to tell you man, dropping the VC is just such an insane idea that I feel like the fact that you would even draw such a conclusion means that there's no point in even trying to convince you otherwise, so I'm going to stop the discussion here. Good day

But @TeeJay

EDIT: I was expecting you to say, "I said Good Day!"

Oh. Didn't get the reference. If it is a reference. Idk

No worries lol

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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faint

Pahvi wrote:

"Legendary", I agree on. The "great" part is a subjective measure and I don't really share that opinion, not when it comes to games I didn't play when they were new.

I don't have stats on who buys VC games — those who played those old consoles long ago or newcomers — or who plays VC games either. I'd like to see them, though, since now I'm operating on a single hypothesis. And before people on this site argue against it — do you think the people here are a representative sample of the group Nintendo should have playing on NX? I definitely don't: N should want "new blood", not a group of people who already have higher-than-normal brand loyalty (aka fanboy quotient).

Are VC games played by new gamers? Are they actually played or are they museum pieces on the console launch screen? How big a portion of the "fresh blood" would care to play them?

Is giving those bonuses to this core fanbase worth spending time and effort on the VC?

so your saying it's better if nintendo offers less? That they may attract new blood by offering less?

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faint

TingLz wrote:

We don't have any data on the VC, so for all we know it may be not making Nintendo that much money at all.

your right we don't know but I am one person who has 45 diffrent ones for the Wiiu alone.All paid for ie not counting club nintendo downloads. I bet I'm not the only one. In fact I bet quite a few of me are out there.

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faint

Pahvi wrote:

In my post, I thought of N64 and backwards + GBA and backwards when it came to defining VC.

Preparing VC releases takes time, effort and money, and the question is at which point the fanservice for the fans isn't worth the spent resources. Of course, pissing off the fan base is a bad idea, since that's probably what's been keeping Wii U somewhat afloat.

VC also feels to me like meeting in a class reunion and thinking, "Weren't we the biggest guys on the block back then?" to forget that the repossession agent is making a stop at "home" in the near future. Thinking towards the future would be more useful.

Ehh. Maybe they could look up how Sony has done their "free" PS+ games and give a pick of one VC game a month for subscribing to a service, but this would be an overly complicated scheme.

@TingLz Do you give temp posting bans by request? As in for myself? I could use one as long as I'm being as irritable as I've been for a while now.

to me it's more like I want to play these again, don't have the original system/game, and want to pay for it legitimately.

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skywake

MasterBlaster wrote:

Which makes it all the more insane that people are actually having multi-page discussions about it, let alone the fact there is a forum on here dedicated to it.

Except there was a 3DS forum before we knew exactly what the 3DS was and a Wii U forum before we knew what the Wii U was. Both of which were fairly active even when there was basically no idea what they were. Before we knew the 3DS would be "3D" and before we knew the Wii U would have a GamePad.

The only difference is that this time both of their platforms are due for replacement in the window of time this "NX" could come out. Made "worse" because Nintendo has announced this well before we'll get any more details. With the Wii U we only knew about it for about a month before they literally walked onto the E3 stage with a GamePad. And we also knew that it HAD to be a home console because the 3DS was only a year old! With the 3DS the Wii was almost due but the DS was both due for a release AND tanking . So it was obvious then to. This time? Not so much

....... anyways, if you don't like wild speculation maybe gaming forums aren't the place to hang out. Because that's most of what gaming forums do. Especially when it comes to new hardware.

Edited on by skywake

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HollywoodHogan

skywake wrote:

MasterBlaster wrote:

Which makes it all the more insane that people are actually having multi-page discussions about it, let alone the fact there is a forum on here dedicated to it.

Except there was a 3DS forum before we knew exactly what the 3DS was and a Wii U forum before we knew what the Wii U was. Both of which were fairly active even when there was basically no idea what they were. Before we knew the 3DS would be "3D" and before we knew the Wii U would have a GamePad.

The only difference is that this time both of their platforms are due for replacement in the window of time this "NX" could come out. Made "worse" because Nintendo has announced this well before we'll get any more details. With the Wii U we only knew about it for about a month before they literally walked onto the E3 stage with a GamePad. And we also knew that it HAD to be a home console because the 3DS was only a year old! With the 3DS the Wii was almost due but the DS was both due for a release AND tanking . So it was obvious then to. This time? Not so much

....... anyways, if you don't like wild speculation maybe gaming forums aren't the place to hang out. Because that's most of what gaming forums do. Especially when it comes to new hardware.

Maybe in 2-3 years when it's released you can link back to one of your dozens of NX posts and say 'Look guys! I was right about it having two analog sticks!" and it will make you feel good about yourself.

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skywake

@MasterBlaster
Well let me dig up what I speculated the 3DS was going to be. Lets see....

  • About as powerful as the Wii (more or less, yes)
  • Unified architecture so ports from the Wii are easy (if only!)
  • 480p (nope) 3.5" 16x9 display (yes) on both top and bottom screens (nope)
  • motion controls (yes)
  • don't bother with analogue controls because they're either bulky or crap (nope, hello Circle Pad)
  • Video playback, recording, sharing via Youtube etc (kinda, kinda not)
  • Speculators are wrong, will not include mobile connectivity because of price (yup)

.... also I remember speculating on these forums that the Wii U, then "Wii 2", would really push retail downloads. Which was a good guess. But then I also speculated that they could potentially skip the Blu-Ray generation of disks and put their retail games on flash/cartridge. Smash the competition with insanely good load times. Which was way off.

Dude it's just a bit of fun, lighten up.

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jump

Pahvi wrote:

In my post, I thought of N64 and backwards + GBA and backwards when it came to defining VC.

Preparing VC releases takes time, effort and money, and the question is at which point the fanservice for the fans isn't worth the spent resources. Of course, pissing off the fan base is a bad idea, since that's probably what's been keeping Wii U somewhat afloat.

VC also feels to me like meeting in a class reunion and thinking, "Weren't we the biggest guys on the block back then?" to forget that the repossession agent is making a stop at "home" in the near future. Thinking towards the future would be more useful.

Ehh. Maybe they could look up how Sony has done their "free" PS+ games and give a pick of one VC game a month for subscribing to a service, but this would be an overly complicated scheme.

@TingLz Do you give temp posting bans by request? As in for myself? I could use one as long as I'm being as irritable as I've been for a while now.

I do agree resources should be spent on new games/hardware but I think you're greatly over estimating how much effort is put into VC, emulation (whilst not easy) is done by people in their spare time as a hobby and Nintendo will run old games on new hardware in testing phases anyway.

I think you're not aiming your complaints at the right place, rather than VC which helps bulk up the digital offerings more of a worry should be the copy and paste games like New Super Mario Bros or Mario Party which offers little over the previous version or HD/3D remakes which are the same game with a lick of paint for full retail price like Zelda Wind Waker or Star Fox 64 3D.

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LzWinky

Pahvi wrote:

In my post, I thought of N64 and backwards + GBA and backwards when it came to defining VC.

Preparing VC releases takes time, effort and money, and the question is at which point the fanservice for the fans isn't worth the spent resources. Of course, pissing off the fan base is a bad idea, since that's probably what's been keeping Wii U somewhat afloat.

VC also feels to me like meeting in a class reunion and thinking, "Weren't we the biggest guys on the block back then?" to forget that the repossession agent is making a stop at "home" in the near future. Thinking towards the future would be more useful.

Ehh. Maybe they could look up how Sony has done their "free" PS+ games and give a pick of one VC game a month for subscribing to a service, but this would be an overly complicated scheme.

@TingLz Do you give temp posting bans by request? As in for myself? I could use one as long as I'm being as irritable as I've been for a while now.

Use the Contact Form and the "User Accounts" category and request it there.

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TOUGHDUDE94

ok what I think
1.console needs to be as powerful as Wii to ps3 or ps vita in power
2.must have a 480p screen
3.must be more than 4 in.
4.two circle pads
5.captive touch screen
6.motion control built in
7.needs to have a micro usb or use a usb cable with dsi end on it
8.needs to have 3ds,new 3ds compatibility
9.must be like the 2ds style a tablet like system just with one screen instead of one screen divided by plastic
10.needs a way to play games on the TV like a hdmi cable
11.system needs to up convert to 720p at least
12.needs to have a unified ID system where all my 3ds games can transfer over to the new system
13.can have a mini system at home to play games on to and use the Wii remote like(ruko 3)
14.needs to have a virtual console but with GBA,SNES,N64 and Genesis consoles and bring over all the 3ds virtual console(NES,Game Boy,Game Boy color,Game Gear,and TG16 and 3d classics in 2d(nes,arcade,and genesis)
ok I am Done with the Idea list

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faint

Pahvi wrote:

@skywake Still, looking at the other threads in this subforum really shows how Nintendo's consoles are delivery platforms for Mario Kart and Smash Bros, and that's about it.

@faint How much would VC actually matter to them? More than the effort put elsewhere?

i think you overestimate the effort and or cost involved. infact the gba emulation isn't even done by nintendo. m2 handles that.

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crimsoncavalier

MasterBlaster wrote:

Which makes it all the more insane that people are actually having multi-page discussions about it, let alone the fact there is a forum on here dedicated to it.

The most bizarre thing is that you're in here complaining about people being in here.

I think the NX, whether handheld or otherwise, should have a good VC catalog. VC titles are great. I love playing old games for systems that I used to own, but no longer do. My biggest regret is giving my NES and SNES to my little cousin years ago. He never used them and they're now broken forever. But the VC allows me to relive some old glory days. What's wrong with that?

I think more than just Nintendo games, however, the next two Nintendo machines should really get back to what the Wii did. There were SO many great games on the Wii VC, and the Wii U's is lacking so much in comparison.

And I know the VC is attracting at least some new gamers because quite a few people on the Miiverse communities are talking about how "this is my first time playing Link to the Past" or "First time playing DKC Trilogy!" ... that's really a good thing to read, and it tells me that at least some people are getting into older games AND enjoying them.

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LzWinky

I don't really see the point in discussion when the census will be "release every game ever made" on the NX

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JLPick

All of the games that were on the Wii and Wii U virtual console should be put on on day one, with not having people wait for the virtual console to arrive, then releasing the games one week at a time and making people pay for them all over again. Earthbound and Donkey Kong 64 were the only new ones that were not already on the Wii Shop (excluding the Wii Games), and for the first part of the Wii U, it was the cheap cheesy games that came out first. It would also be nice to have the Genesis, Masters, Turbo Grafx games out too, and add more N64 and maybe even Gamecube games to add on day one that were not available before. As for Wii games being added, I don't see how they'd do it...if their next console was backwards compatible with Wii U, that means they'd also have to make it compatible with Wii...which raises the cost of the system due to having to make it compatible with the Wii Remotes and accessories too. The only way they could do this is by adding the Wii and Wii U games as virtual console downloads and re-working on them to take out some of the control methods.

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