I think that we know already some of the phase 1 titles that will be available in the launch window-- Zelda, Mario, Pokken, and Retro's alleged new IP. I think it's also safe to bet on ports like DQ, FF, and Tekken 7. And if you're one of the 140 million console gamers out there that hasn't bought a WiiU, you will probably have emulation for WiiU titles you've never played like Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Donkey Kong TF.
Right now is the time for Nintendo begin development on their phase 2 software. They have to begin this fall on software for 2017 and 2018. What would your software plan be? What titles would you greenlight to expand the Western audience?
-I would expand Retro and divide the studio between Retro Sports and Retro Story. Retro Sports would have 4 teams and Retro Story would have 3 teams.
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2018 titles, NCAA football and baseball
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2017 titles, Punch-Out Online and Wave Race
-1 team at Retro Story would begin work on a new first person Metroid for Dec. 2018 release
-1 team would begin work on a new first or third person IP for 2018 release
-1 team would develop a first person online Western shooter using Unreal 4 or CryEngine for fall 2017
-NOJ has likely already entered development on other titles for 2017 and 2018 like Zelda Maker, F-zero, or Mario Kart 9
Zelda Wii U/NX
Super Mario Galaxy 3
Sm4sh Definitive Edition
Pokken Tournament NX
Pikmin 4
Launch Window:
Retro's new IP
Mario Party 11
Mario Kart 9
Metroid Prime Collection HD
F-Zero NX
Rest of 2017:
Animal Crossing NX
Donkey Kong Country NX
Kirby NX 3D
Punch-Out NX
Wario Ware NX
Luigi's Mansion NX
Early 2018:
Skyward Sword HD
Splatoon NX
Paper Mario NX
Xenoblade NX
Mario Tennis NX
Late 2018:
Metroid NX
Fire Emblem NX
Yoshi NX
New IP
Mario Strikers NX
Fatal Frame NX
Early 2019:
Starfox NX
Donkey Kong 64 HD
The NX is going to be delayed to Holiday 2017 you heard it here first, also It should be pretty obvious what my favorite game of all time is cough Skyward Sword cough
Uh, first of all Pokken is for the Wii U...and secondly the NX almost certainly won't release next year since it won't be fully unveiled until E3. Nintendo would be re*ards if they released the console without generating any hype at all, which would certainly be the case with a 2016 release.
Also developers just received developer kits this month, if Nintendo NX releases next year it'll have next to no third party support at launch and during the months following its release.
I think that we know already some of the phase 1 titles that will be available in the launch window-- Zelda, Mario, Pokken, and Retro's alleged new IP. I think it's also safe to bet on ports like DQ, FF, and Tekken 7. And if you're one of the 140 million console gamers out there that hasn't bought a WiiU, you will probably have emulation for WiiU titles you've never played like Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Donkey Kong TF.
Right now is the time for Nintendo begin development on their phase 2 software. They have to begin this fall on software for 2017 and 2018. What would your software plan be? What titles would you greenlight to expand the Western audience?
-I would expand Retro and divide the studio between Retro Sports and Retro Story. Retro Sports would have 4 teams and Retro Story would have 3 teams.
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2018 titles, NCAA football and baseball
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2017 titles, Punch-Out Online and Wave Race
-1 team at Retro Story would begin work on a new first person Metroid for Dec. 2018 release
-1 team would begin work on a new first or third person IP for 2018 release
-1 team would develop a first person online Western shooter using Unreal 4 or CryEngine for fall 2017
-NOJ has likely already entered development on other titles for 2017 and 2018 like Zelda Maker, F-zero, or Mario Kart 9
I was going to ask where you got all that confirmation from, but then you suggested dividing Retro Studios in seven separate teams by just ''expanding'' them... ''lol''. You've got some high hopes if you're betting on games like Final Fantasy, Tekken 7 and all those Wii U ports. I'm sure someone's going to be disappointed when they unveil the NX and its games.
I think that we know already some of the phase 1 titles that will be available in the launch window-- Zelda, Mario, Pokken, and Retro's alleged new IP. I think it's also safe to bet on ports like DQ, FF, and Tekken 7. And if you're one of the 140 million console gamers out there that hasn't bought a WiiU, you will probably have emulation for WiiU titles you've never played like Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Donkey Kong TF.
Right now is the time for Nintendo begin development on their phase 2 software. They have to begin this fall on software for 2017 and 2018. What would your software plan be? What titles would you greenlight to expand the Western audience?
-I would expand Retro and divide the studio between Retro Sports and Retro Story. Retro Sports would have 4 teams and Retro Story would have 3 teams.
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2018 titles, NCAA football and baseball
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2017 titles, Punch-Out Online and Wave Race
-1 team at Retro Story would begin work on a new first person Metroid for Dec. 2018 release
-1 team would begin work on a new first or third person IP for 2018 release
-1 team would develop a first person online Western shooter using Unreal 4 or CryEngine for fall 2017
-NOJ has likely already entered development on other titles for 2017 and 2018 like Zelda Maker, F-zero, or Mario Kart 9
1. Pokken launches on Wii U next year
2. i doubt there going bring Wii U games as "Ports" for NX, why not Backwards Comparability as they been doing since the Wii?
3. sounds more like all this is a Huge Dream, and when it comes to reality you're the one that may get disappointing for none of these happening.
1st/2nd party launch titles will be:
Zelda Wii U/NX
Super Mario Galaxy 3
Sm4sh Definitive Edition
Pokken Tournament NX
Pikmin 4
Launch Window:
Retro's new IP
Mario Party 11
Mario Kart 9
Metroid Prime Collection HD
F-Zero NX
in all serious this will not be the launch of NX, surely there going be more games that isnt just made by Nintendo that well be launched on day 1
My Top 9 Favorite Games of All time.
1. Judgement
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Bully (Rockstar)
4. Person 4 / Golden
5. Sonic Adventure 2
6. Xenoblade X
7. Ape Escape 2
8. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
9. James Bond 007 Nightfire
Why do we have yet another thread about games? We have exactly zero games announced for the NX and now we are speculating about the second wave of games?
-I would expand Retro and divide the studio between Retro Sports and Retro Story. Retro Sports would have 4 teams and Retro Story would have 3 teams.
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2018 titles, NCAA football and baseball
-2 teams at Retro Sports would work on 2017 titles, Punch-Out Online and Wave Race
-1 team at Retro Story would begin work on a new first person Metroid for Dec. 2018 release
-1 team would begin work on a new first or third person IP for 2018 release
-1 team would develop a first person online Western shooter using Unreal 4 or CryEngine for fall 2017
If you would expand retro like this it would kill off all creativity and they would probably not be able to put any games at all for a long time. A much bigger company will change the entire structure of the company. This would destroy their (current) brand. If nintendo would like to expand this rapidly, they would buy 6 studios, not trying to force an existing working studio to be something they are not.
Why do we have yet another thread about games? We have exactly zero information about the NX and now we are speculating about the second wave of games?
@Aozz: as for mine those are all 1st and 2nd party launch titles as already stated 3rd party isnt included im not dumb
The NX is going to be delayed to Holiday 2017 you heard it here first, also It should be pretty obvious what my favorite game of all time is cough Skyward Sword cough
@Octane
Expansion is the only option and Retro is their only studio in the US to expand.
@Aozz If Pokken makes its release date for WiiU next spring in Japan then it still won't be out in the US until around fall. And even if it comes out on WiiU first, a few months before NX's launch, I think it's safe to assume the NX will get its own port.
Backwards compatibility most likely will only happen through emulation because everything thus far suggests it will be x86 instead of PPC.
@Therad
Iwata was the one that killed creativity at the studio. Under Iwata, Retro was reduced from 3 or 4 original IPs to just one team doing Metroid. Metroid was good but after a couple more Metroids, held back in sales by control issues and lack of online multiplayer, some of the talent that made those games left the company and formed Armature (and are now making an exclusive for X1). Retro has since been doing DKC sequels. That's not creative-- that's getting stuck making 2D sequels to a game from the SNES.
Also developers just received developer kits this month, if Nintendo NX releases next year it'll have next to no third party support at launch and during the months following its release.
Third parties have a year to port games that they will have finished in plenty of time-- some of which will likely release on PS4 and X1 before NX's launch date. If it's an x86 console, it's not going to be a pain in the ass like WiiU to port to. As for exclusives, like I pointed out in the OP, that is why this thread is about phase 2. We're looking ahead two years to the second half of 2017.
@BlueSkies On what planet is a year considered more than enough time to develop AAA titles? Certainly not on Earth. Edit: Unless of course you want broken games released on the NX.
@Aozz: as for mine those are all 1st and 2nd party launch titles as already stated 3rd party isnt included im not dumb
"when it comes to reality you're the one that may get disappointing for none of these happening"
the issue is, that stuff you listed may/may not happen (why add the term "Will Be"? that saying it's official. even tho it's not) i mean you're fine doing a wish list (heck who knows maybe you are right) but don't expect any of these being real until Nintendo confirmed itself.
@Aozz If Pokken makes its release date for WiiU next spring in Japan then it still won't be out in the US until around fall. And even if it comes out on WiiU first, a few months before NX's launch, I think it's safe to assume the NX will get its own port.
there is no "if". it will arrive in Spring 2016 (World Wide) on Wii U.
My Top 9 Favorite Games of All time.
1. Judgement
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Bully (Rockstar)
4. Person 4 / Golden
5. Sonic Adventure 2
6. Xenoblade X
7. Ape Escape 2
8. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
9. James Bond 007 Nightfire
If Pokken makes its release date for WiiU next spring in Japan then it still won't be out in the US until around fall. And even if it comes out on WiiU first, a few months before NX's launch, I think it's safe to assume the NX will get its own port.
Iwata was the one that killed creativity at the studio. Under Iwata, Retro was reduced from 3 or 4 original IPs to just one team doing Metroid. Metroid was good but after a couple more Metroids, held back in sales by control issues and lack of online multiplayer, some of the talent that made those games left the company and formed Armature (and are now making an exclusive for X1). Retro has since been doing DKC sequels. That's not creative-- that's getting stuck making 2D sequels to a game from the SNES.
Again no. Don't start pulling random lies out of your arse if you want to make a point. When Retro Studios was founded, they started working on four GameCube games, none of them were particulary good, their planning and development was a disaster and they got behind on schedule. Miyamoto visited Retro Studios and he was impressed with one of their games, an action-adventure game and he suggested them to work on a new Metroid game instead. Retro Studios themselves laid off some employees and cancelled all their other projects. This was all before Nintendo bought shares in Retro Studios and it became a first party developer.
@BlueSkies why does Nintendo even need another sports developer? they got Camelot (who works on Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, and Mario Strikers), Bandai Namco (who works on those Mario Baseball games) Sega (which helps Mario & Sonic games) Square Enix (who works on Mario Sport Mix) they don't need another one they could ask one of them to work on a sports game for them. (even tho it well require more then just asking)
My Top 9 Favorite Games of All time.
1. Judgement
2. Baldur's Gate 3
3. Bully (Rockstar)
4. Person 4 / Golden
5. Sonic Adventure 2
6. Xenoblade X
7. Ape Escape 2
8. Animal Crossing: New Leaf
9. James Bond 007 Nightfire
If Pokken makes its release date for WiiU next spring in Japan then it still won't be out in the US until around fall. And even if it comes out on WiiU first, a few months before NX's launch, I think it's safe to assume the NX will get its own port.
As others have already stated, it's getting a worldwide release in the Spring. Next time do some research.
Iwata was the one that killed creativity at the studio. Under Iwata, Retro was reduced from 3 or 4 original IPs to just one team doing Metroid. Metroid was good but after a couple more Metroids, held back in sales by control issues and lack of online multiplayer, some of the talent that made those games left the company and formed Armature (and are now making an exclusive for X1). Retro has since been doing DKC sequels. That's not creative-- that's getting stuck making 2D sequels to a game from the SNES.
What @Octane said. Again, next time, do some research.
Third parties have a year to port games that they will have finished in plenty of time-- some of which will likely release on PS4 and X1 before NX's launch date.
Sure, let's have a repeat of one of the Wii U's biggest problems at launch! I'm sure that won't be a problem at all!
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you will probably have emulation for WiiU titles you've never played like Mario Kart 8, Splatoon, Mario Maker, and Donkey Kong TF.
I'm not so sure about that, I mean I still have hopes that this time, they will go x86 instead of PPC. Not b/c x86 is superior, but simply because it's in sync with the other platforms out there and therefore more likely to encourage 3rd-party support/ ports. If so, then backwards-compability with the WiiU is not a foregone conclusion at all. On the upside, they could really start from scratch and get rid of the gamepad for good.
@Octane Nintendo failing to delay Pokken to NX launch-- history would suggest the odds are actually against them not moving it. Just like Zelda U, TP, Dinosaur Planet, Zelda 3, Star Fox 2, and Eternal Darkness. And still if it releases on time thanks to Namco actually getting it out the door (unlike Tekken X SF!); it's still only six months from the NX launch. It could easily see a dedicated physical release on NX regardless.
Retro didn't go from 4 teams to one team after one visit from Miyamoto. What became Metroid came out of one team's efforts on what was originally to be an original fps IP. The game that came to be, whether it had been Metroid or not, would have been of the same quality in the end. Retro made a quality title with Metroid. Miyamoto has simply exhibited a history of squashing new IPs within the company and even dismissed Splatoon during development and said he didn't understand the appeal. Miyamoto is old and out of touch. God bless him for what he has done in the past but he just doesn't understand young American and European gamers anymore.
Retro's layoffs were clearly a direct result of 3/4 of their projects being rejected by their publisher, Nintendo. Even before Retro was sold to Nintendo, Retro was trying to make a sell to Nintendo in software. The buck at Nintendo during that time stopped with Iwata. Nintendo has had over a decade to expand Retro into more teams. You can't argue against the need for expansion and the competency exhibited by management at Retro. They earned it with the sales of that Wii DKC game alone. There is nothing out of the oridinary about making this a large studio. The ordinary used to be Rare if you were a Nintendo gamer. Rare delivered almost a dozen titles on the N64. That's what Nintendo is missing.
@Aozz None of those are serious, realistic American sports games.
@BlueSkies On what planet is a year considered more than enough time to develop AAA titles? Certainly not on Earth. Edit: Unless of course you want broken games released on the NX.
They are porting between virtually the same hardware. Very few games are going to be exclusive and those that are are going to be games like Pokken and Zelda which were started before NX solidified. Third parties had a similar time frame to port their finished titles over to the WiiU for launch. This is how it always works. The difference this time is that the finished titles are going to be current gen titles like DQ and Tekken (not ports from 360 and PS3).
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