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Topic: NX is going to be a high performance platform in Nintendo's line

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Therad

Paulthevgnerd wrote:

Also, looking at the concept of Miitomo, I want to have the ability to meet new friends, too. I know Miiverse has brought some together, but I feel like Nintendo still has some hurdles to jump.

Miitomo doesn't help you find new friends, it is supposed to deepen your knowledge and friendship with you existing friends. I.e you have a friend list and you can only talk with them.

Therad

jumpgo692003

While Im no expert and I am sure I dont do as much digging as most in terms of rumors and leaks but would it be plausible for the NX to be a glorified computer that is expandable yet small enough to be considered a console?

I could see a basic unit going at the competitive rates (around $400 or so) with a solid hardware and be x86 as others have mentioned. The main and noticeable difference will be a proprietary chassis vs the ATX cases out today.

I could see something like this that developers would love (x86 is much more common and likely easier to develop from) while still having the ability to be upgraded in future years.

I do notice the digital trend is in full swing and I dont see Nintendo jumping ship here so perhaps they offer a smaller HD but provide cloud space that is obtained through your account, thus saving your digital games and eliminating the need for larger HDD's. I could also see them promoting 3D as they do on their handheld and make HDMI 1.4 be a commonplace.

Just a theory but would be cool.... Yes it would be a glorified small PC ....but with the Nintendo branding and proprietary parts (such as motherboard).

jumpgo692003

Octane

@adoion: ''According to a report by the International Business Times, Erikawa referred to the NX as a "machine" or a "home console" which killed the idea of a handheld device.'' - your source

The thing is, he refered to the NX as ''machine'', he never said anything about ''home console''. Read the original source.

It appears that journalism is quite a difficult job.

Octane

Bolt_Strike

I had considered this possibility, it would make a lot of sense if they did that, but what they've said about the NX makes me believe this isn't the case. Most notably, Tanabe's comment that Prime 4 would be an NX title instead of a Wii U title. If the NX simply complemented 3DS and Wii U, why would Tanabe rule out the possibility of Prime 4 on the Wii U? Wouldn't it make more sense to release it for both? It seems that whatever the NX is, it's going to serve as the Wii U's successor (and probably the 3DS' as well).

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Bolt_Strike

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skywake

@Bolt_Strike:
When new hardware comes around I think everything is on the table. A game like Metroid Prime takes a few years to develop. Really, regardless of what the NX is or when it comes out I doubt they're starting any new big games for Wii U or 3DS anymore. Based on how long it took to release Skyward Sword? A game of that scale if they had started it in 2015? It would come out in 2018. By 2018 I think it's fairly safe to assume that both the 3DS and the Wii U will either be replaced or on the verge of being.

So when Tanabe said that they weren't working on a Metroid Prime? When he said that if that game was to happen it's more likely to come to NX than Wii U? I think it's within that sort of context. And you can be pretty much guaranteed that whatever the NX is it'll definitely be capable of running pretty large games. Even if it is a portable system.

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adoion

I bet they're porting the new Zelda to NX right now and maybe adding some unique features and probably interconnecting features of the 2 versions so that it would create a need to own both, the WII and NX platform. There is no other way to go for Nintendo besides give users choices and compete directly with the rest. There is most probably going to be all kind of inter-connectivity between versions of the same game on all the platforms including mobile.

adoion

day

@adoion

i think by profound, you mean interesting and unique, and as such entirely appropriate to be discussed here. i actually agree that your idea is, though i don't think there's enough information to be certain.

and don't let the bullies pull you into a row; they tend to belittle and stifle certain forms of discussion as soon as they feel any skepticism.

back on topic though: given your assumptions, i think i see what you're saying, but why hasn't this been attempted before? are the profits from the wii era figuring into your perspective as support, or something? it would be pretty radical, so skepticism is understandable... but Nintendo has been known for a bit of radicalism in their day.

day

adoion

@day: Thanks man, but i don't think you should call them bullies, rather trolls , with a common interest. Yes i believe and its a fact that the WII targeted a completely different consumer group then the other traditional mainstream consoles of that time and i believe that Nintendo doesn't want to let this target group just go but at the same time needs to pull in 3rd parties. With can only be done, as they realize, by going with the mainstream.

adoion

day

@adoion

perhaps the difference between trolls and bullies is best discussed in another topic

i wonder though about that target group; so many of them are not repeat purchasers, being already content with their purchase and the selection of titles available. my friends with the wii aren't tapped into releases because they just don't seem to care; they "gave party games a go". And this small sample size is supported by those on the elderly end of the spectrum.

but it seems that from your statements, you're anticipating a significant price reduction for the U... is that right? i couldn't see $299 bundles competing favorably with a $350 base purchase...

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day

day

honestly though, NL's recent article makes a valid point... how could retailers be expected to further a trifecta when it's been difficult enough to support the pair of systems as is?

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skywake

day wrote:

and don't let the bullies pull you into a row; they tend to belittle and stifle certain forms of discussion as soon as they feel any skepticism.

What's wrong with a bit of scepticism? You'd rather a discussion forum not have discussion? Not have people questioning other people's assumptions? Disagreements are a healthy part of any discussion. Without disagreement you get group-think and people can convince themselves of literally anything.

So instead of complaining when people try to insert scepticism into a discussion be happy about it. Because if people are disagreeing you know you're not shouting into an echo chamber. If you can make your argument stick in that environment? Then clearly you're onto something. Because while winning an argument in an echo chamber may make you "feel good" it's completely meaningless.

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Some playlists: Top All Time Songs, Top Last Year
"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"

day

@skywake

skepticism ain't a problem, attacking someone with it though... well that says more about the attacker than the idea...

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skywake

day wrote:

@skywake skepticism ain't a problem, attacking someone with it though... well that says more about the attacker than the idea...

Scepticism is never an attack. If you can't handle someone simply questioning your point of view? Then that's not an attack, it's you being insecure. Though admittedly there have been some movements which label themselves as "sceptics" but are infact ideologues.... but that's a discussion for another thread and also isn't what's happening here

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Some playlists: Top All Time Songs, Top Last Year
"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"

day

@skywake

so you're saying people don't use attacks as a result of their skepticism? hmmm...

i'm skeptical of your point of view

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skywake

@day:
No, I'm saying that someone saying "I don't think we know that for sure" or "that doesn't add up" is not an attack. In this sub-forum in particular people get worked up by people simply saying "we don't know". There's another thread where someone was adamant the NX was basically confirmed to be a home console coming out in November 2016. They got offended by people simply saying that they could easily be wrong.

And I assume that it's that sort of scepticism you're being critical of here. Because that's the sort of scepticism being displayed on these last few pages. I wouldn't call that kind of scepticism an attack.

Some playlists: Top All Time Songs, Top Last Year
"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"

day

@skywake

you know, there were a couple of things that were said the led me to apply the belittling tone to what i read, such as "do we really need to suffer another one of these posts" (or some such phrasing), but in reading back through i think you're mostly right; that's an unfair representation of this discussion in general. my reaction is probably more due to seeing other forms of similar arguments in these forums where skepticism isn't what's the issue, but this "oh god, go away you, you have no valuable opinion" expression of skepticism is.

i think we can both agree that it's that expression of skepticism which doesn't really further a mature dialog.

so because of my mistake, your assumption that i'm taking issue with the form of skepticism shown here is wrong (for the most part). my apologies. but i did think the OP had an interesting and valuable point that deserved discussion rather than making a push for having the thread locked.

day

rallydefault

day wrote:

@skywake
i think we can both agree that it's that expression of skepticism which doesn't really further a mature dialog.

Exactly this. It's not the skepticism itself. I LOVE hearing others' viewpoints. I've changed my own opinion on many, many things through the course of discussions in these forums. It's when people become unnecessarily belittling and nasty in tone when I start to take issue. Everyone can and should scrutinize things to say, "Hey... I read what you're saying, but I'm not sure you're correct..." But the rampant sarcasm and even ad hominem attacks get tiring. Eventually, I just stop reading posts from those people. I just skip over them.

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skywake

day wrote:

so because of my mistake, your assumption that i'm taking issue with the form of skepticism shown here is wrong (for the most part). my apologies. but i did think the OP had an interesting and valuable point that deserved discussion rather than making a push for having the thread locked.

That has nothing to do with people disliking the opinion. The issue as far as I understand is that there are already numerous threads in this sub-forum for speculating about what the NX is. There are 7 pages of threads in this sub-forum already and most of them are just the same things over and over again. Some still active, some not. OP's thread was not unique or interesting, there are literally hundreds of threads that are largely the same. Pointing this out is not an attack, it wasn't even a comment on the quality of the post. It's a suggestion to the OP and others that they shouldn't be creating new threads for the same topics because it clutters up the forums.

Hell, I created a thread that was kinda the same as this one less than a month after the NX announcement. I think at that point there wasn't a general speculation thread so I made one. And just for fun this is what I posted:

skywake wrote:

Hardware Spec: A portable console to replace the 3DS, just under the power of the 360. Standard def screens
Controller: They'll be boring. Basically the 3DS setup but with dual circle-pads
Unique Feature #1: We won't see it but it'll be built to make GC/Wii/Wii U ports/remakes/sequels easier
Unique Feature #2: Unified accounts system, cross buy, cross play, cloud saves etc
Unique Feature #3: The big gimmick will be that there will be no gimmicks. It's just be a solid gaming device

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Some playlists: Top All Time Songs, Top Last Year
"Don't stir the pot" is a nice way of saying "they're too dumb to reason with"

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