@adoion: Are you an expert? I don't know anything about this stuff so i'm not going to confirm or dismiss it. I just thought it was interesting. Also who cares if it's never been implemented, if Nintendo can figure it out then they can be the first to do it. It seems to me this utilizes existing tech. in a new and more manageable way and that is generally the basis for Nintendo innovation. They put out lots of patents and who knows if this one will come true, but if they're thinking about it and pateneting it dismissing the possibility as being impossible or never happening is pretty foolish i'd suggest. Also why would it lag? The games/media would still be based on discs/cartirdges and the extra processing power would allow for additional resources to go into graphics and online functions. Again i don't know a lot about this kind of stuff, nothing really, but it certainly seems that these fellows have a grasp on these things so i figured i'd share it with you. I think the NX could be a lot of things, perhaps it could include tech in this manner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Cc59DTfldQ It. seems to me that would be a quality fit for NFC tech. and it would be cheapish to produce at this point. Given Iwata's description of NX being an additional pillar for Nintendo then it seems likely to me it's going to be a platform that is distinct from the Wii U or 3DS, and a cloud based platform makes sense to me. It's going to be interesting but i would suggest expecting innovation over following an established trend is the far more likely scenario.
@Kevlar44: I thank you for sharing this and i didn't say that you are playing a hoax. I'm expert enough to tell that this patent cant be realized by Nintendo. Just read what they say about what additional computing power this system would provide. They say if latency is low then it might provide graphics processing "synchronously" and all the other time it would provide support for what? since a gaming system doesn't need support for anything else then probably graphics. But this article makes it seem like one needs p2p computing for AI and game logic processing, LOL pfff what a stupid joke this is on top, not to mention that a massive network like this would be totally unreliable as described before.
@adoion: A few things
1. This is why you shouldn't take patents as gospel
2. The actual patent is basically just a broader patent for remote-play (i.e. the GamePad)
3. If you think remote-play was a failed experiment of the Wii U you forget that Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia and Valve are also pushing it. NVidia in particular, they're pushing it for over-the-internet style systems.
This is what is going to happen. Nintendo traditionally had 2 main platforms, a mobile platform and a console based more powerful home platform. Nintendo will add a new platform line with the NX.
What does this mean? Nintendo will have a mobile platform (New 3DS Line), a low to mid performance range home platform (WII U Line) and a x86 based high performance platform (NX Line). IF you thing deeper about it, it turns out to be a very smart move.
Nintendo has realized that the only way to get 3rd party to their system is to provide a powerful system and not to try to sell it to consumers just by innovation. In fact with this move they will offer both, innovation with the WII U Line and performance with the NX Line. If they could maintain 2 platforms in the past why not add a third one and now is the right time for it to enter the market.
The WII U Will continue to get support and evolve just like the new 3DS evolved from the 3DS and the NX will evolve as well with time. On top of that DeNS will be responsible for Mobile and PC stuff that they will be doing on those 2 platforms, since Windows 10 is basically a mobile OS this will make DeNA basically a professional in that field.
The NX controller Will be detachable from the main console and suite for some cute things, like hooking up to your phone and interacting with the Nintendo supported phone software, the phone thing wont be too big as new Nintendo President said, they just want people to interact more with Nintendo IP.
So to me this concept is complete and agrees very well to all of Nintendo's announcements and is both market competitive and logical and follows Nintendo's style well.
Eventually, Nintendo WILL move away from the Wii U. My guess is within 1-2 years of the NX's release. Having two home consoles available at the same time will splinter Nintendo's market, confuse prospective buyers and create development headaches by having to develop for up 9 total platforms (X1, X360, PS4, PS3, Vita, PC, Wii U, 3DS, and NX).
No thank you! Just give me NX and I won't be upset support that the 3DS and Wii U has died.
Anyway, I'm sure that whatever NX is they have their reasons for it, good or bad. And I'm sure the MyNintendo program will be a BIG part of it.
Hahahahaha!!! I'm a fanboy now?!?! You do know the PS4 has PS3 ports right?!?! Do you think people still care about those games? Was those games ignored?! C'mon!!! Don't run! I'm back and I'm so ready!
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@Blast: Yeah we saw how that worked for Gamecube and Wii U. If NX is just a $300-350 PS4 clone launching late 2016 only fanboys will care. most of the 3rd party launch titles will be late ports you can probably get cheaper on other systems. No one but Nintendo fanboys are going to care.
Grand Theft Auto V, a PS3 game, is like highest sold game on PS4, right?! Lmao! C'mon, now. I have a PS4... if you didn't know.
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And so? A lot of GTA's audience is on PlayStation.
But whatever I'm not arguing with someone who acts like that. Consider this my final response to you.
I'm still referring to how you said the NX receiving ports would only be cared by Nintendo fanboys. It's hypocritical because the PS4 has numerous PS3 ports. One of its highest selling games... Isn't even exclusive. It's a PS3 3rd party game. And saying GTA audience is hugely on PlayStation is also a lie. GTA is just incredibly mainstream. Don't run from me. You insult me and expect to walk away without taking any hits? You called me a fanboy... You think I'm gonna let that go?
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@Blast:
That's fine for a console that launched in 2013 as one of two "high performance" consoles. They can get away with just doing enhanced ports of previous generation games for a while. But in 2016/17 that's not going to work. Not when there are already platforms which have all of the big third party games and some. If they want to do well they need more than that. If it's just ports of games already on the PS4 nobody will care.
I also have to disagree with @WebHead here. I suspect that GTA5 would have been a big deal on even the Wii U if it had happened. I don't think there's some kind of specific "Nintendo audience", if there was Bayonetta 2 wouldn't have done as well as it did. If GTA5 was on the Wii U it would be one of the best selling Wii U games. But I agree on the fundamental point. If Arkham Knight and Rise of the Tomb Raider come to NX? That alone won't sell units. Nobody will care, people can already play those games at that spec. It won't be a selling point in the same way it was for the PS4.
@webhead quit being a troll. @Blast Ease up there. As for the Fanboy bit, @Blast does not come off as somebody who is BLINDLY defending nintendo. We are all(mostly) passionate fans of nintendo. We are all allowed to critique Nintendo for choices they have made and so on. It's why we are here on these forums. That being said, I do hope the NX is something considerably powerful. Whatever they have up their sleeves, I hope it knocks people's socks off.
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@Blast:
That's fine for a console that launched in 2013 as one of two "high performance" consoles. They can get away with just doing enhanced ports of previous generation games for a while. But in 2016/17 that's not going to work. Not when there are already platforms which have all of the big third party games and some. If they want to do well they need more than that. If it's just ports of games already on the PS4 nobody will care.
I also have to disagree with @WebHead here. I suspect that GTA5 would have been a big deal on even the Wii U if it had happened. I don't think there's some kind of specific "Nintendo audience", if there was Bayonetta 2 wouldn't have done as well as it did. If GTA5 was on the Wii U it would be one of the best selling Wii U games. But I agree on the fundamental point. If Arkham Knight and Rise of the Tomb Raider come to NX? That alone won't sell units. Nobody will care, people can already play those games at that spec. It won't be a selling point in the same way it was for the PS4.
The NX can also get away with getting the complete Edition of ports from this gen. Imagine Batman Arkham Knight with all the DLC, a few Nintendo costumes, and runs best on NX all for $60.00! It'd sell!
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@skywake: You have to remember that Byao2 was published by Nintendo. Japanese developers are much more relevent on Nintendo systems than western or european developers. is the audience there for games like Bayonetta, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, etc? certainly! For games like GTA, Fallout, CoD? I don't think as much.
Whichever the case, Nintendo definitely has to have a target demographic. They tried to please everyone with Wii U. And failed miserably.
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@webhead quit being a troll. @Blast Ease up there. As for the Fanboy bit, @Blast does not come off as somebody who is BLINDLY defending nintendo. We are all(mostly) passionate fans of nintendo. We are all allowed to critique Nintendo for choices they have made and so on. It's why we are here on these forums. That being said, I do hope the NX is something considerably powerful. Whatever they have up their sleeves, I hope it knocks people's socks off.
Agreed and thank you for what you said
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The NX can also get away with getting the complete Edition of ports from this gen. Imagine Batman Arkham Knight with all the DLC, a few Nintendo costumes, and runs best on NX all for $60.00! It'd sell!
I think you're missing the point I'm getting at. I can't see them being able to compete with the PS4 in terms of third party content or specs. Not in 2016. The only thing they would have over the PS4 if it's just a PS4 clone is the fact that they have great exclusive first party content. Something which the Wii U also has. So it'd need to do something better with the hardware. Better value, better specs or innovative hardware.
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What I would like to see out of the NX would be a form of connecting gamers together in a better way (Like XBL or PSN) where we can talk to our friends as we play. I just want to feel the freedom of connecting with my friends a little better. And Complementing the gaming overall. I think helping gamers connect better on a nintendo platform would be a big thing, just my opinion.
@nintendop_rn: Yes.
Also, looking at the concept of Miitomo, I want to have the ability to meet new friends, too. I know Miiverse has brought some together, but I feel like Nintendo still has some hurdles to jump. I know i'll be the 8 millionth one to say this, but, I think the apparent lack of heavy multiplayer and voice chat for said multiplayer does restrict players interactions. I don't feel connected when i'm playing with a team on Splatoon or fighting against awesome players in Smash. I hope Nintendo, through things like NX, My Nintendo, and even Miitomo, will push us to interact more as friends, not strangers we play with.
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