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Topic: NX aparantly not as powerful as PS4 rumour. Discussion on good/bad things this could mean.

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napalmninja

@Octane: Yeah sorry that's what I meant to say, edited my original post thank you for pointing that out!

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DefHalan

@napalmninja: I don't see how question 7 leads to it replacing both, in fact it sounds like it is replacing neither. This is where the micro-console idea comes to mind. Rather than offer a replacement to one of the systems, it offers a 3rd system that will fill its own roll. They continue to support the 3DS and Wii U while the NX is a different system altogether. The idea behind the Micro-Console wouldn't be another system to create software for but another system to deliver software they are already making on their other two systems. By having it take over the VC service and allow smaller Wii U/3DS or next-generation system games will allow for the NX Micro-Console to carve out its own install base as either a support system for the others or as a entry-level system. Gamers can choose to either support Nintendo a little by getting the micro-console, or a lot by getting the main console. Even having some functionality for those that own both (such as streaming) could also help Nintendo sell more hardware and software.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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napalmninja

@DefHalan: I guess it all depends on how you interpret it, because I see it as they admit the Wii U is a failure, and their focus for the future is NX. I can definitely see how a VC focused Micro-console could fit that mold however. It's all pretty much reading tea leaves at this point though, but still exciting in my opinion.

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DefHalan

@napalmninja: I see it as they acknowledge how bad the Wii U is doing but they don't want to replace it so soon. I just don't see the point of replacing the Wii U if they aren't targeting PS4 power. I also don't see a real reason to replace the 3DS yet, we still have some big games coming to the system and I feel like the hardware hasn't been too constrictive for developers yet. Which leads me to believe it is a micro-console, which will be more of a support system for the other two and less of its own thing. At least, that is how I see it.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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erv

DefHalan wrote:

I am really leaning towards the NX being a Micro-Console. It will be the home of VC and smaller eShop titles but everything on the NX can be downloaded on the Wii U/3DS or their replacements. The NX could also be home to the Mobile games for console players. I would imagine the next Home Console and next Handheld would have a NX basically built in. But this is just my idea.

EDIT: It could also probably be used to stream from one system in one room to another room where the NX is.

If there's one thing I had to choose that would not make me buy nx, it's virtual console stuff.

I want new stuff. No retro.

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iKhan

I trust Unseen 64 more than I trust my ability to read between the lines of interviews to determine NX is a console.

So this puts the possibility of a Handheld back on the table. I do think it's unlikely, but the idea that it's not competing with the PS4 is enough for me to doubt myself.

I'd say the most likely scenario is the worst one. Nintendo is banking on a unique feature to overcome a lack of Power in a home console, but this time the are 2 generations behind.

If they go that route, the unique feature better be really freaking cool. Like holograms or something.

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DefHalan

erv wrote:

DefHalan wrote:

I am really leaning towards the NX being a Micro-Console. It will be the home of VC and smaller eShop titles but everything on the NX can be downloaded on the Wii U/3DS or their replacements. The NX could also be home to the Mobile games for console players. I would imagine the next Home Console and next Handheld would have a NX basically built in. But this is just my idea.

EDIT: It could also probably be used to stream from one system in one room to another room where the NX is.

If there's one thing I had to choose that would not make me buy nx, it's virtual console stuff.

I want new stuff. No retro.

But with the Micro-Console idea, it isn't replacing the Wii U. The Wii U and 3DS is where you would find the new stuff while the NX is the retro stuff. So maybe you wouldn't be interested in it but there are still Nintendo products to interest you.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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napalmninja

@DefHalan: Plus with connected accounts they could have a cross-buy system so Wii U/3DS owners can transfer their VC and indie games. Then with the rumors that it might be Android powered, what you're saying makes a whole lot of sense. But then would that mean no more VC support for Wii U and 3DS, because it already takes too much development time according to Iwata-san.

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DefHalan

napalmninja wrote:

Plus with connected accounts they could have a cross-buy system so Wii U/3DS owners can transfer their VC and indie games. Then with the rumors that it might be Android powered, what you're saying makes a whole lot of sense. But then would that mean no more VC support for Wii U and 3DS, because it already takes too much development time according to Iwata-san.

The Wii U/3DS replacements would basically have a NX built in them which would allow for VC and at least a small selection of games being Backwards Compatible. Thinking of the NX as support hardware for the other systems and future systems makes the most sense out of everything we have heard, but everything we have heard are rumors basically.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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TuVictus

I don't know if there would be much of a market for a microconsole. At that point it might as well just be a portable that plays mobile games. I don't think it'd be appealing to hook up a little box to your TV just for small VC or eShop titles.

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TheMisterManGuy

He says it won't be as powerful as the PS4, but he didn't say anything about it being weaker than the PS4. My guess is that it will be more powerful than the PS4, but not significantly more powerful, at least, not at first.

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Ryno

No way this is going to be more powerful then the PS4. Nintendo's pricing strategy is to be the cheapest console on the market.

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DefHalan

Operative wrote:

I don't know if there would be much of a market for a microconsole. At that point it might as well just be a portable that plays mobile games. I don't think it'd be appealing to hook up a little box to your TV just for small VC or eShop titles.

For someone that doesn't own a Wii U, it could be very appealing to buy a $100 micro-console just for VC. Also for the next generation console, if they allow streaming from your console to the micro-console it would add to its value. It would allow a household to own 1 console and it to be played in multiple places. Making it portable would be much more expensive, and if it wasn't replacing the 3DS then I don't see a purpose for it to be portable.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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napalmninja

DefHalan wrote:

Operative wrote:

I don't know if there would be much of a market for a microconsole. At that point it might as well just be a portable that plays mobile games. I don't think it'd be appealing to hook up a little box to your TV just for small VC or eShop titles.

For someone that doesn't own a Wii U, it could be very appealing to buy a $100 micro-console just for VC. Also for the next generation console, if they allow streaming from your console to the micro-console it would add to its value. It would allow a household to own 1 console and it to be played in multiple places. Making it portable would be much more expensive, and if it wasn't replacing the 3DS then I don't see a purpose for it to be portable.

I know of at least a couple people that would buy a console like that at that price. Plus with it being so cheap, people who already own PS4s or Xbox Ones can easily justify that purchase, as long as the library is solid.

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Blast

It's sad knowing the NX will most likely be a disaster and not even appeal to the hardcore Nintendo fan. Is a Nintendo version of a PS4 so much to ask for?!

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DefHalan

Blast wrote:

It's sad knowing the NX will most likely be a disaster and not even appeal to the hardcore Nintendo fan. Is a Nintendo version of a PS4 so much to ask for?!

we know virtual nothing about it. I would find a "Nintendo version of a PS4" very disappointing however.

People keep saying the Xbox One doesn't have Backwards Compatibility.
I don't think they know what Backwards Compatibility means...

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rallydefault

@Blast: Nothing's "sad" yet because nothing even happened yet. It's over a year away, whatever it is. These are all just rumors, and we're just kicking around possibilities.

Just wait and see.

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TheMisterManGuy

Ryno wrote:

No way this is going to be more powerful then the PS4. Nintendo's pricing strategy is to be the cheapest console on the market.

The Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 AND was cheaper, and it still lost.

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