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Smash_kirby

Maybe this is a WiiU mini, designed for other territories where selling retail games is a little harder. The bulkiest thing in any computer is the disk drive. You can shrink down other parts but the disk drive has to be the same size.

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PaperMario64

Emperor-P wrote:

kereke12 wrote:

I would rather them go to back to cartilage then completely abandon Optical media.

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TuVictus

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Operative wrote:

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Therad wrote:

There is never going to be a time, not anytime soon at least, where physical media is going to be unwanted. People keep saying that, but people said the exact same things when eBooks and iTunes became a thing. And yet there are still stores that sell physical books and CD's. 100% digital isn't a thing that's going to happen, especially not for games, whose consumers take especial pride in their physical collections.

Yes yes, people still buy vinyl. It is not a good argument, because CD's are pretty niche nowadays. Most people download their music now. And I will venture a guess and say that music aficionados have had more pride in their collections than console gamers have had in their, since music doesn't get obsoleted every fifth year.

I'd say your post proves my point

People still buy vinyl. There's still a market for vinyl. I meant CD's, but your example illustrates my point pretty well. There will always be a market for physical copies of goods, people who are saying otherwise every year are deluding themselves. Digital will grow, sure, but it will never the only option for gaming.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/gamers-still-prefer-to-buy-p...

This one study shows that most gamers still prefer physical over digital. Technically, 39% prefer physical, 25% digital, the rest don't have a preference.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2014/05/gamers-still-prefer-physical...

NPD survey says 74% still want physical games.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/02/market-report-says-con...

In 2014, just under 20% of game purchases were digital.

Definitely don't see a majority being digital for a a while

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Socar

Considering how hard it is to pirate cartridges, this would be the best thing Nintendo can do if they make carts store just as much memory as Discs.

The problem I have with digital isn't because of it being digital, its the problem with downloading, purchasing and backing up. Majority of countries simply can't get games digitally because of how the digital payment works so they like me need a pre-paid card as means of getting games digitally. Problem with that is, its not easy to get them.

And personally, it doesn't feel like a collection or something that you'd like to see without turning on the system. When the space is full, you have to force yourself to delete the stuff you bought and that can be a problem. If Nintendo did it like you can store your games in a pen drive and remove that pen drive and use another one to store more games, that would be awesome. But they won't do that because of how it can be considered as pirating and infringing copyright.

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skywake

Operative wrote:

People still buy vinyl. There's still a market for vinyl. I meant CD's, but your example illustrates my point pretty well. There will always be a market for physical copies of goods, people who are saying otherwise every year are deluding themselves. Digital will grow, sure, but it will never the only option for gaming.

The difference is that with music there aren't really many advantages with digital at all. You buy a CD, you rip the music, you can play that music on any device that plays music. The only disadvantage is that you have to rip it. That's it.

With games? Well as people point out a proportion of gamers sell their games once they're done. But when you think about it that cost is built in to the price of games. We're paying for that at retail, if you don't believe me look at the sales on Steam. Then on the other side of the scale with physical media there is no proof of purchase even if you do keep the game. Nobody is going to give you a better deal on the remaster or port just because you have the old version. And they can get away with charging full price because nobody expects it.

For music or movies if physical media died it'd be neither here nor there. I personally like to have more control over it but oh well. For games? If we don't move to a digital first market we'll be held back. Remakes, remasters and sequels are the bread and butter of gaming. As I said before I got the disk for Donkey Kong Country Returns, I still have that disk. It means nothing and because most people are stuck on physical media nobody expects it to.

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DjLewe78

Its all about streaming and downloading. I haven't watched live tv in over a year (except football games).
I haven't bought a CD in over 2 years.
And most of my games now are downloaded.
Unless its only me living like this, its quite clear which direction a new platform expected to last 4-5 years is gonna go!
Im a DJ as a job and i had this when vinyl started disappearing.
3rd party and 1st party developers will make more out of it, and piracy will be a lot less.
Its happening people, and i for one, am ready for it

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Paulthevgnerd

Do you guys think the controller is just a placeholder, considering it's an example system? I wouldn't think they would do another gamepad and they have been saying that it's a new concept, new ways to play and that it's not building upon previous systems.

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Socar

@DjLewe78: I'd argue that even digital has piracy involved.

While I'm not going to show links of such methods, I can say that there are softwares that have these generators which give out random numbers. There is a good chance that one of these numbers will be right and the pirate can get the prepaid-cash without actually getting a prepaid card. You can argue that prepaid-cards are not something Nintendo will do but however, removing them would mean that only certain countries can access those games which is something that a large company like Nintendo doesn't want to do that simply because in sales wise, it won't make them global which is something Nintendo wants to do.

While I'm at it, The amiibo can also go digital instead of just being physical which can solve the Amiibo lack of supply. But then, that would ruin the whole point of the figures which is to act as a sense of collection let alone use them in games. I would like to have a Chrom Amiibo if I get the chance not because I can use it, but because I can keep it as a collection.

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Sleepingmudkip

I dont think this is for the NX but for a "slim down wii U", a second verion of the NX or it could just be something they patented just to have. I dont think nintendo will get rid of the disc drive until after sony/microsoft does.

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HollywoodHogan

Artwark wrote:

Considering how hard it is to pirate cartridges, this would be the best thing Nintendo can do if they make carts store just as much memory as Discs.

I can't think of one single cartridge based console that has NOT had its games be easily pirated.

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IceClimbers

I personally think they will get rid of the optical drive. My feeling is that in the future, they will have two pillars - NX, their dedicated games platform, and mobile. The NX is one platform that comes in multiple SKUs - handheld SKUs (gotta have an XL version), and a console SKU. They'd be advertised together as one platform, just with something at the end of the name to denote if it is the handheld or the console. Nintendo doesn't care whether you buy the handheld or the console because they share the same install base, many of the same games, the same ecosystem, and the same services. At the end of the day, Nintendo really only cares that you buy their software.

With the NX, all NX based devices would be combined as one single platform. So if the console sold 20 million and the handheld sold 80 million, Nintendo would list it as the NX selling 100 million worldwide.

The games would boot with the settings of the hardware it's on - scale-able architecture.

Think Nintendo is "too behind the times" to do something like this? What I described above is exactly what Iwata himself said Nintendo should be heading towards.

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Squiggle55

I would be very unlikely to buy the next Nintendo home console if it went all digital. But how amazingly ironic and, at the same time, expected would it be for Nintendo to be the first to slap their fans in the face like that. They certainly aren't the most likely to listen to the recommendation of their fans. Clearly all of the big players want an all digital future, but it doesn't seem like they can get away with it because the majority of gamers still see that they are being ripped off. It somehow makes sense though that Nintendo would be the slowest to react to a public outcry on the internet if the top brass approved such a system, and they'd put it on the market anyway.

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Joeynator3000

Can't wait for the NX to be revealed next year and have it be a handheld. lol

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SuperWiiU

Megumi wrote:

Can't wait for the NX to be revealed next year and have it be a handheld. lol

That doesn't change the fact they filed a patent for a console without a disk drive.

Joeynator3000

SuperWiiU wrote:

Megumi wrote:

Can't wait for the NX to be revealed next year and have it be a handheld. lol

That doesn't change the fact they filed a patent for a console without a disk drive.

So, like others have said, companies file patents all the time. It means nothing.

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WiiWareWave

Uh...it sounds more like the next handheld to me. The 3DS doesn't have a disc-drive either as it uses cartridges.

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SuperWiiU

Megumi wrote:

SuperWiiU wrote:

Megumi wrote:

Can't wait for the NX to be revealed next year and have it be a handheld. lol

That doesn't change the fact they filed a patent for a console without a disk drive.

So, like others have said, companies file patents all the time. It means nothing.

It does mean something. It just doesn't mean the next Nintendo console will definitely have no disk drive.

Octane

I can't wait for the DS ceiling tracking device that Nintendo patented 4 years ago.

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Patents don't mean anything.

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Socar

HollywoodHogan wrote:

Artwark wrote:

Considering how hard it is to pirate cartridges, this would be the best thing Nintendo can do if they make carts store just as much memory as Discs.

I can't think of one single cartridge based console that has NOT had its games be easily pirated.

what about the virtual boy? You can argue that its a failure but it has quality games in it and one of which is Wario Land....which I would love to have on the 3DS even if its red and black.

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