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Topic: ¿Why does Nintendo hate its own JRPGs like Golden Sun and Mother?

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Snaplocket

@kkslider5552000 Chibi Robo is easily one of my favorite Gamecube games and the ds sequels were great too. Even Photo Finder and the platformer had a lot of charm (even if they weren't that great overall). The fact that Skip has made so many great games and yet none of them ever sold well (half of them never even left Japan) saddens me.

Also, just because Nintendo isn't making more Golden Sun games doesn't mean they did bad in sales. After all, Nintendo's made not one, but TWO Xenoblade games despite the fact none of them sold as well as even Dark Dawn.

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FX102A

I was all set for a mature discussion on potential reasons why such series have remained dormant for so long; then I read the OP's original post and relised I'm more likely to get a mature conversation out of the mug on my desk.

So lets keep it simplistic:

  • Nintendo want money
  • Those series have history of not making lots of money.
  • Nintendo not wanting to take risks or have other games likely to make more money.

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Gorbash333

Why's everyone giving @Samus7Killer such a hard time. Yes, "hate" may be an exaggeration, but nobody thinks that Nintendo actually hates something they've created, except for Donkey Kong Jr. Math (I jest, I jest).

Point being, this is just an opinion and should be viewed as such. It just shows care for the things you enjoy and the reason any of us ever get on these forums. We love these games!

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Canadian_Ronin

well it's expected that later this year or early next year NIntendo is going to introduce a streaming service, if games like the Golden Sun and Mother get played a lot - they'll see it and most likely act on it.

Canadian_Ronin

Tyranexx

I still suspect that we may (key word) get Mother 3 in the west at some point (I believe someone even offered to translate it for free, but Nintendo turned them down) since the game already exists. I recall reading that Itoi isn't interested in making Mother 4, so anything past 3 is up in limbo.

Golden Sun....Well, we'll have to see on that one since the most recent game apparently didn't do so well.

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World

@Gorbash333 They might hate DK Jr. Math, but I wish they'd hate Urban Champion a little more

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Gorbash333

@World haha! I literally almost put that one down! 🤣

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StuTwo

Golden Sun was a great early GBA game. It looked great, wandering around and manipulating the world was a step above almost all 16-bit RPGs and the mechanics of battles were very well done. But it had a puddle deep story, a generic world and everyone talked too much. And it ended on a cliffhanger.

It's not surprising that the sequel sold less. It had the same flaws, was following on from a cliffhanger, didn't clearly identify itself as a sequel (that's what the number '2' is for Nintendo!) and came at at time when there were plenty of other graphically impressive games out on the GBA and plenty of equally good or better JRPGs.

The 3rd was, by all accounts, a divisive game. Maybe Camelot decided after that that they'd rather focus all of their efforts on their much more profitable sports games going forwards?

Maybe we'll see another one day but I don't think there's actually a big audience clamouring for one.

Mother 3 is a different situation. It's a great game that didn't release in the West due to bad timing (and it would have sunk like a stone if it had released!). Of course it's not seen an official virtual console release because it's not been officially translated.

Nintendo knows there is a very dedicated audience that really wants that game and we'll get it.
Eventually. It's fan service they'll undertake when they know it's an underwhelming year.

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kkslider5552000

StuTwo wrote:

But it had a puddle deep story, a generic world and everyone talked too much.

Even ignoring how many games this describes, I've not heard much complaints about Golden Sun's story. It wasn't deep but it wasn't trying to be? It was just trying to be good? And no one expected something mind blowing from a basically launch title's story on GBA.

StuTwo wrote:

there were plenty of other graphically impressive games out on the GBA and plenty of equally good or better JRPGs.

I do not of the GBA JRPGs that came out between Golden Sun 1 and 2. FFTA, Mario and Luigi and Fire Emblem were all later that year, and the Final Fantasy remakes were later than that. Maybe because I missed out on Atlus' games.

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Pigeon

Maybe they just don't make enough money for em.

It's not as if Nintendo care about consumers. They're like any other corporation. They go where the money is. I don't know about mother, but I'm pretty sure Golden Sun didn't set the world on fire. Especially the last one.

Don't mistaken that as me being anti-Nintendo or anything. But, when a game isn't getting a sequel, whatever the dev, it's 99% likely because they think the money isn't there. They said Uncharted 4 was the last one, but it was still making the dough, so they found a way to make another one recently. Meanwhile, I'll never get another Shinobido or Tenchu...

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Ilusive

Golden Sun
The best RPGS series, return please!

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Ilusive

It was Nintendo mistake. Golden Sun 3 wasn't good enough.
1 and 2 were masterpieces @Pigeon

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Pigeon

Ilusive wrote:

It was Nintendo mistake. Golden Sun 3 wasn't good enough.
1 and 2 were masterpieces @Pigeon

Well, I only watched a friend play the first two, and they seemed very generic. I chose to get Final Fantasy Tactics Advance instead, and I didn't regret it.

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